2/3 say ditch individual health care mandate

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    Hope our politicians and the supreme court are listening:
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    Two-thirds of Americans say the U.S. Supreme Court should throw out either the individual mandate in the federal health care law or the law in its entirety, signaling the depth of public disagreement with that element of the Affordable Care Act.
    This ABC News/Washington Post poll finds that Americans oppose the law overall by 52-41 percent. And 67 percent believe the high court should either ditch the law or at least the portion that requires nearly all Americans to have coverage."

    The people never wanted it. This is a travesty like the abortion *law*. Nobody ever wanted it in the first place.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...ches-two-thirds-say-ditch-individual-mandate/
     
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    Which brings up the age-old question as to how susceptible the Supreme Court is to this kind of pressure....
     
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    The Court should consider the Constitutionality of the Health Care mandate. I believe that Congress passed the law with a rider that makes it inseverable. Given that, if the individual mandate fails, the whole thing should be scrapped.
    Unfortunately, too many of the Justices are activists who have demonstrated their willingness to subvert the Constitution in favor of their concept of social justice.
     
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    Ain't it the truth.....
     
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    examples please
     
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    No. They did not. There is no such rider and the question of severability is therefore debatable.

    The ACA is certainly unworkable without it, though.

    If the mandate falls, ObamaCare falls with it, since the alleged zero cost to the federal budget of the ACA all hinges on the mandate.

    It would be interesting to see a poll that asks people if they would still like to see the mandate eliminated if it means all of ObamaCare goes with it.
     
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    Jeffrey Rosen, New Republic Magazine Legal Affairs Editor, has said the following:

    Pro-Business Conservatives: represented by policies of the US Chamber of Commerce, strongly represented on the Roberts’ Court, where they won some 13 of 18 cases in which they filed a brief. Most business cases are unanimous or 7-2 decisions, vs those cases that deal with culture war issues. These conservatives favored TARP, and he use of federal pre-emption (federal law to take precedence over or to displace a state law) for farm subsidies, healthcare cases.

    Based on this sentiment, a court which has embraced a broad vision of federal power, as found in regulation of medical marijuana, expect the Roberts Court to reject the pro-states rights view that would lead to the invalidation of the healthcare case.


    Consider this proposition: when Congress passes a law, it is assumed that the members have viewed same as constitutional.
    The same for he Executive when he signs same.
    So, what a Supreme Court Justice should do is give credence to a law being constitutional, unless it can be clearly shown that the language of the Constitution shows it to be unconstitutional....

    ...in a perfect world.
     
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    The constitutionality of a law is not determined by a popular vote.
     
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    I know.
     
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    though I have some question over whether or not we should have laws leveled against us if the majority doesn't want it.
     

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