193 dead from extreme weather

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The last time they had a tornado outbreak like this was in the 70's. At that time NOAA predicted an ice age.

What a dumb fuck. That never happened.

Did scientists predict an impending ice age in the 1970s?

In the thirty years leading up to the 1970s, available temperature recordings suggested that there was a cooling trend. As a result some scientists suggested that the current inter-glacial period could rapidly draw to a close, which might result in the Earth plunging into a new ice age over the next few centuries. This idea could have been reinforced by the knowledge that the smog that climatologists call ‘aerosols’ – emitted by human activities into the atmosphere – also caused cooling. In fact, as temperature recording has improved in coverage, it’s become apparent that the cooling trend was most pronounced in northern land areas and that global temperature trends were in fact relatively steady during the period prior to 1970.

At the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a greater number published contradicting studies. Their papers showed that the growing amount of greenhouse gasses that humans were putting into the atmosphere would cause much greater warming – warming that would a much greater influence on global temperature than any possible natural or human-caused cooling effects.

By 1980 the predictions about ice ages had ceased, due to the overwhelming evidence contained in an increasing number of reports that warned of global warming. Unfortunately, the small number of predictions of an ice age appeared to be much more interesting than those of global warming, so it was those sensational 'Ice Age' stories in the press that so many people tend to remember.

Another Ice Age? - TIME

 

[Dr.House]

The planet kills people

Isn't it about time we fight back?

The UN will step in and protect her if we do.... Apparently Mother Earth deserves human rights protections...

 

[Old Rocks]

The last time they had a tornado outbreak like this was in the 70's. At that time NOAA predicted an ice age.

What a dumb fuck. That never happened.

Did scientists predict an impending ice age in the 1970s?

In the thirty years leading up to the 1970s, available temperature recordings suggested that there was a cooling trend. As a result some scientists suggested that the current inter-glacial period could rapidly draw to a close, which might result in the Earth plunging into a new ice age over the next few centuries. This idea could have been reinforced by the knowledge that the smog that climatologists call ‘aerosols’ – emitted by human activities into the atmosphere – also caused cooling. In fact, as temperature recording has improved in coverage, it’s become apparent that the cooling trend was most pronounced in northern land areas and that global temperature trends were in fact relatively steady during the period prior to 1970.

At the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a greater number published contradicting studies. Their papers showed that the growing amount of greenhouse gasses that humans were putting into the atmosphere would cause much greater warming – warming that would a much greater influence on global temperature than any possible natural or human-caused cooling effects.

By 1980 the predictions about ice ages had ceased, due to the overwhelming evidence contained in an increasing number of reports that warned of global warming. Unfortunately, the small number of predictions of an ice age appeared to be much more interesting than those of global warming, so it was those sensational 'Ice Age' stories in the press that so many people tend to remember.

Another Ice Age? - TIME

OK. So that is where you get your scientific information. It shows.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

What a dumb fuck. That never happened.

Did scientists predict an impending ice age in the 1970s?

In the thirty years leading up to the 1970s, available temperature recordings suggested that there was a cooling trend. As a result some scientists suggested that the current inter-glacial period could rapidly draw to a close, which might result in the Earth plunging into a new ice age over the next few centuries. This idea could have been reinforced by the knowledge that the smog that climatologists call ‘aerosols’ – emitted by human activities into the atmosphere – also caused cooling. In fact, as temperature recording has improved in coverage, it’s become apparent that the cooling trend was most pronounced in northern land areas and that global temperature trends were in fact relatively steady during the period prior to 1970.

At the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a greater number published contradicting studies. Their papers showed that the growing amount of greenhouse gasses that humans were putting into the atmosphere would cause much greater warming – warming that would a much greater influence on global temperature than any possible natural or human-caused cooling effects.

By 1980 the predictions about ice ages had ceased, due to the overwhelming evidence contained in an increasing number of reports that warned of global warming. Unfortunately, the small number of predictions of an ice age appeared to be much more interesting than those of global warming, so it was those sensational 'Ice Age' stories in the press that so many people tend to remember.

Another Ice Age? - TIME

OK. So that is where you get your scientific information. It shows.

Alleged global warming isn't about science; it's about politics.

 

[Old Rocks]

The substance of the matter eludes them.

Instead of trying to assimulate the numbers and understand that this is the begining of the proof of irratic weather patterns from our effect on the planet they claim I LIKE the deaths and that a mistyping of the number of deaths in my title matter more than the effects of their failed policies.

Prove that these tornadoes have anything to do with your global warming religious beliefs.

Given the number of major weather related disasters worldwide in the last few years, I think it more up to you to prove this is not the case. Put more energy into the atmosphere, and you have a more energetic atmosphere. One that also packs more water vapor. Remember that stuff? You know, the primary GHG?

 

[Old Rocks]

Another Ice Age? - TIME

OK. So that is where you get your scientific information. It shows.

Alleged global warming isn't about science; it's about politics.

Really? Then your claim is that the Arctic Ice is not decreasing? That the alpine glaciers are not melting? Or are you claiming that we are not putting GHGs into the atmosphere?

Just what is your claim, Bro? Or have you even bothered to think that through, just go along like a good ditto-head.

 

[Dr.House]

Fuckin' warmers....

Keepin' Algore in the greenbacks, baby.....

 

[Old Rocks]

Fuck willfully ignorant ignoramouses like you, House. Keep them fossil fuel companies making billions per month.

 

[Intense]

Fuck willfully ignorant ignoramouses like you, House. Keep them fossil fuel companies making billions per month.

Just Curious Old Rocks, how many Billions does Government make off of this Bullshit??? How Much did the Government make off of Gas and Oil Revenue Last year? The Year before. How does that stand up to what the Companies that actually do all the work get compensated?

 

[Two Thumbs]

when will you accept science?

You got me tm.

For a moment there I thought you were a kind and decent human being.

Turns out you're a evil partisan hack.

how often does it happen?

It's lesser than what happened in 1974. It's in the link you didn't read you vile bitch.

 

[Old Rocks]

We did not have the radar and satellites in 1974 that we have today, yet the death toll stands at 271 right now, and will certainly rise further.

This is a very bad storm, for it is continueing at present, with active tornados. And the amount of damage will be far greater than we have seen before.

 

[Two Thumbs]

We did not have the radar and satellites in 1974 that we have today, yet the death toll stands at 271 right now, and will certainly rise further.

This is a very bad storm, for it is continueing at present, with active tornados. And the amount of damage will be far greater than we have seen before.

People were also more prepared and the population was much smaller.

bringing up gw before people have had time to grieve, is just sick.

 

[Dr.House]

Fuck willfully ignorant ignoramouses like you, House. Keep them fossil fuel companies making billions per month.

Ouch, that hurt man...


Fuckin' warmer.... Worshiping at the feet of Algore, making him wealthy, while complaining about oil companies getting rich...

Warmers are pathetic...

 

[Old Rocks]

House, the fact that you bring up Gore when talking about AGW simply proves that you are an ignoramous. Gore did a wonderful job of presenting what the scientists were saying at the time. Other than that, he is not part of the research going on at present.

Virtually the whole of the scientific community accepts AGW as proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and that is as good as it gets in the scientific community.

 

[Dr.House]

House, the fact that you bring up Gore when talking about AGW simply proves that you are an ignoramous. Gore did a wonderful job of presenting what the scientists were saying at the time. Other than that, he is not part of the research going on at present.

Virtually the whole of the scientific community accepts AGW as proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and that is as good as it gets in the scientific community.

Fuck you, warmer...

You lost the game when you changed it from "Global Warming" to "Global Climate Change"...

Fuckin' idiot warmers...

 

[Old Rocks]

Now House, you can't do anything other than call names, because all the scientific proof is against you. Once again, you present the image of a really stupid willfully ignorant individual. Unfortunately, that is an accurate image.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Pissing into the wind doesn't end well either SP. Why antagonize the Forces of Creation? To what end?

There is no creator out there somewhere fretting over your safety. The sooner you give up that childish bedtime story, the sooner you can see that we are mere specks of dust in the universe. We pale in comparison to forces of nature thus we must fight the elements for our survival. Elemental forces cannot be reasoned with or placated.

How does Prayer hurt???

Prayer doesn't hurt but it doesn't help either so it is an exercise in futility.

Prayer DOES help...and it also works! You have to have faith and believe for it to help you at all, and for God to answer them. But this is something that a non-believer will never understand....

Prove to me that prayer works. Show me a scientific study.

You can't.

Prayer does not heal the sick, study finds - Times Online

Praying for the health of strangers who have undergone heart surgery has no effect, according to the largest scientific study ever commissioned to calculate the healing power of prayer.

In fact, patients who know they are being prayed for suffer a noticeably higher rate of complications, according to the study, which monitored the recovery of 1,800 patients after heart bypass surgery in the US.

You might as well say that believing in unicorns cures cancer.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The substance of the matter eludes them.

Instead of trying to assimulate the numbers and understand that this is the begining of the proof of irratic weather patterns from our effect on the planet they claim I LIKE the deaths and that a mistyping of the number of deaths in my title matter more than the effects of their failed policies.

Prove that these tornadoes have anything to do with your global warming religious beliefs.

Given the number of major weather related disasters worldwide in the last few years, I think it more up to you to prove this is not the case. Put more energy into the atmosphere, and you have a more energetic atmosphere. One that also packs more water vapor. Remember that stuff? You know, the primary GHG?

Show us a direct link between carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases and the tornadoes. Preferably from a repeated and peer reviewed study, of course.

 

[waltky]

Granny sad any time somethin' bad happens to the South...

Dozens of tornadoes kill at least 280 people in South
28 Apr.`11 — The tornadoes roared into cities like runaway freight trains, devouring houses, leveling entire neighborhoods and burying people who scrambled to get away under mounds of dirt and rubble.

The twisters ripped through six states killing at least 280 people -- 194 in Alabama alone -- in the deadliest outbreak of tornadoes in almost 40 years. Rescuers used pieces of debris as makeshift stretchers for survivors. Relatives frantically tried to find family members who were missing. And those who did survive were in shock at what they saw around them. "There's not a word for what you see," said Becky Russell, spokeswoman for the Salvation Army's Alabama-Louisiana-Mississippi (ALM) Division as she surveyed the damage in Tuscaloosa. "This has to be close to what a war zone looks like. I can turn in any direction and there is nothing normal standing."

"It happened so fast it was unbelievable," said Jerry Stewart, 63, a retired firefighter who was picking through the remains of his son's wrecked home in Pleasant Grove, a suburb of Birmingham, Ala. "They said the storm was in Tuscaloosa and it would be here in 15 minutes. And before I knew it, it was here." Stewart and his wife, along with their daughter and two grandchildren, survived by hiding under their front porch. Friends down the street who did the same weren't so lucky. Stewart said he pulled out the bodies of two neighbors whose home was ripped off its foundation. Alabama's Emergency Management Agency said it had confirmed 194 deaths in the state. The other deaths were in Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia, Virginia and Kentucky.

In DeKalb County, Ala., where the twisters and storms killed at least 35 people and injured 100, power was out and people were still trying to find out if their relatives were safe or among the dead and injured. "We are still in process of searching the houses and areas that were damaged, looking for people who may be trapped," Sheriff Jimmy Harris said in a statement. "There are still many people who've been reported missing and are unaccounted for, and we are doing our best to locate them."

The tornadoes in DeKalb all hit on Sand Mountain, a rural area sprinkled with farms and chicken houses. The largest town there: Rainsville, pop. 5,000. The tornado cut a 1/2-mile swath through the county from Grove Oak to the Georgia state line, Harris said. He asked non-locals who are worried about family members "to bear with us as we search the areas that were hit and try to identify those who were killed."

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[westwall]

when will you accept science?

How about that storm in Galveston way back in 1900? Doesn't that count too? At least 6000 died back then. Don't you understand history? Why do you deny history?

Or how about January 16 1362 when the Netherlands was struck by a great storm? Called the Grote Mandrenke (the great drowning of men) it killed at least 25,000. What about that? I don't recal there being a bunch of SUV's back then.

You need an education.

NOAA History - Stories and Tales of the Weather Service/StormTales/Galveston Storm of 1900

Floods in the Netherlands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia