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Glad your daughter and son's girlfriend are ok. Scary stuff.
The guy was off his meds. He was sick. He never should have had a gun if he was on meds.
Has nothing to do with the parents.
Jillian, I mostly agree but the harder question for society is why so many resort to killing? You hear of this in other places but we have, in spite of everything, one of the best places to live in the history of the world, and yet so many resort to senseless mass murder.
The parent question is harder, the only murderer I have known personally was a drug addict from a broken home. But what of others? or are the parents in need of help too?
Jillian, I mostly agree but the harder question for society is why so many resort to killing? You hear of this in other places but we have, in spite of everything, one of the best places to live in the history of the world, and yet so many resort to senseless mass murder.
The parent question is harder, the only murderer I have known personally was a drug addict from a broken home. But what of others? or are the parents in need of help too?
I am far from being a gun control advocate. I have a gun cabinet full for hunting purposes but you gotta ask yourself, where the h*ll does this madness stop!
It doesn't. It's the price we pay for a free society. The alternative is more government control. I notice that doesn't matter much when it's controlling someithing one doesn't care about, but I'd love to see the comparison of numbers regarding gun control advocates who also went into the screaming meemies over the eavesdropping BS.
Jillian hit the nail on the head ... this idiot should not have been allowed to purchase nor posess a firearm.
But Gunny, how do we address this? From all reports, this guy was not a nut case. He was a "good student" that may have been taking a medication. He was "eratic" because he stopped taking it.
Now, how many "good students that might be taking medication" are out there who could do the same thing next week? How do you gage when someone is so mentally imbalanced that could do something like this?
I have had experience with a family member who had mental issues and it is the hardest thing to understand. While it is hard to understand, it also can be a threat to society.
Should Mental Health issues come out of the closet, so to speak? Should we be more aware of those around us who have emotional and mental issues? Does personal privacy and confidentiality trump community safety and welfare?
But Gunny, how do we address this? From all reports, this guy was not a nut case. He was a "good student" that may have been taking a medication. He was "eratic" because he stopped taking it.
Now, how many "good students that might be taking medication" are out there who could do the same thing next week? How do you gage when someone is so mentally imbalanced that could do something like this?
I have had experience with a family member who had mental issues and it is the hardest thing to understand. While it is hard to understand, it also can be a threat to society.
Should Mental Health issues come out of the closet, so to speak? Should we be more aware of those around us who have emotional and mental issues? Does personal privacy and confidentiality trump community safety and welfare?
Addressing the specific ... IMO, if one undergoes psychiatric care and is diagnosed with behavioral problems that are corrected by medication, then that should be reported into the same system used to do the BATF background check. In both this instance and the VT shooting, had that been done, neither shooter would have been able to obtain a firearm legally.
Gunny, sorta funny in the same thread you say this is the price of freedom and now you call for controls. You better be careful next thing you know they'll be calling you a 'liberal.'
I don't buy that fully but it is a consideration as my wife often tells me how much kids have changed in her 25 years of teaching. But is still seems more prevalent in the US and other societies are just as open as we are, maybe more.
"The Americans value their constitution and the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment deals with the right to bear arms. Here is the price that ordinary Americans are paying for the privilege
- 8 children a day die in murders, suicides and accidents involving guns
- since John F. Kennedy was assinated more Americans have died from gunshot wounds at home than died in all the wars of the 20th century
- Osama bin Laden would need at least nine twin towers like attacks each year to equal what Americans do to themselves every year with guns.
- Murder rates in LA, NY and Chigago were approaching the hightest in the world (30 per 100,000) until moves were made in late 20th century to restrict access to guns to teenagers. (The NRA wants these moves reversed)
If Osama bin Laden had had more sense, instead of launching a terrorist attack, he would simply have provided financial backing to the NRA."
http://thegreenman.net.au/mt/archives/000473.html
But Gunny, how do we address this? From all reports, this guy was not a nut case. He was a "good student" that may have been taking a medication. He was "eratic" because he stopped taking it.
Now, how many "good students that might be taking medication" are out there who could do the same thing next week? How do you gage when someone is so mentally imbalanced that could do something like this?
I have had experience with a family member who had mental issues and it is the hardest thing to understand. While it is hard to understand, it also can be a threat to society.
Should Mental Health issues come out of the closet, so to speak? Should we be more aware of those around us who have emotional and mental issues? Does personal privacy and confidentiality trump community safety and welfare?
If you mean by 'address this' thinking you're going to stop every whack job from getting a gun, it's just not gonna happen. The only thing we can do is our best to keep guns out of the hands of those that shouldn't have them while not impeding the rights of others.
