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Going from a pre-Obamacare healthcare plan to an Obamacare plan?
How about this real life example?
Meet Butch Matthews, A Republican Who Came To Love Obamacare After Realizing It Will Save Him $13,000
Meet Butch Matthews, A Republican Who Came To Love Obamacare After Realizing It Will Save Him $13,000 | ThinkProgress
But even he might not have expected just how good of a deal he could get: his new coverage will cost him absolutely nothing in monthly premiums after factoring in federal subsidies
So we get to pay for his entire insurance package. WHAT A FUCKING DEAL!!!!
Not the point. The implication in the OP is that people are losing coverage and going to have to pay more or go without under Obamacare.
That, generally, is bullshit.
Interesting new study.........
Interesting new study.........
lets play
see if you can defend this
from the article
"The Affordable Care Act is already working: Intense price competition among health plans in the marketplaces for individuals has lowered premiums below projected levels"
so if a plan was 200 dollars before Obama care and they project the price would increase to 400 dollars but instead it comes in at 300 dollars, and you would call that a 100 dollar saving. only liberal math would call a 100 dollar increase a savings
you need to stop reading and quoting those liberal propaganda sites they will make you look like a fool every time
Mine went up 27 percent due to obamacare. Before that, they would increase just like everything does with inflation......but not 27 percent.
Interesting new study.........
lets play
see if you can defend this
from the article
"The Affordable Care Act is already working: Intense price competition among health plans in the marketplaces for individuals has lowered premiums below projected levels"
so if a plan was 200 dollars before Obama care and they project the price would increase to 400 dollars but instead it comes in at 300 dollars, and you would call that a 100 dollar saving. only liberal math would call a 100 dollar increase a savings
you need to stop reading and quoting those liberal propaganda sites they will make you look like a fool every time
Hello dummy....
Where did you get the idea that projected levels were higher than pre ACA levels? From your ass?
You just made that up. Try harder.
Simply check the sources, folks, and ask for their sources.
You will find out there is no objective, number crunching at all for these silly comments.
Mine went up 27 percent due to obamacare. Before that, they would increase just like everything does with inflation......but not 27 percent.
Unless you had a worthless shit plan that does not meet minimum standards, there is NO WAY that the ACA caused your premiums to go up 27%.
Please stop with the misinformation.
Thanks.
Prices are cheaper in every state reporting new prices, dingbats lol...
Going from a pre-Obamacare healthcare plan to an Obamacare plan?
How about this real life example?
Meet Butch Matthews, A Republican Who Came To Love Obamacare After Realizing It Will Save Him $13,000
anecdotal evidence is just that anecdotal evidence
Butch Matthews is from Arkansas and the average price increase for health insurance for a man his age is 79%. So from his own stupidity he was getting over charged before Obama care and one other thing that stands out from the propaganda site. tell me what Obama care plan has only a 750 dollar deductible? he says he purchased a silver policy that has a deductible of 2k
this is what you get from linking and believing in a liberal propaganda site "Think Progress" untruths
lol, you had no link and then someone helped you out with a link from the Weekly Standard.
Your provides NO proof that 16 million are 'losing' their insurance.
lets play
see if you can defend this
from the article
"The Affordable Care Act is already working: Intense price competition among health plans in the marketplaces for individuals has lowered premiums below projected levels"
so if a plan was 200 dollars before Obama care and they project the price would increase to 400 dollars but instead it comes in at 300 dollars, and you would call that a 100 dollar saving. only liberal math would call a 100 dollar increase a savings
you need to stop reading and quoting those liberal propaganda sites they will make you look like a fool every time
Hello dummy....
Where did you get the idea that projected levels were higher than pre ACA levels? From your ass?
You just made that up. Try harder.
personal attacks you know you are wining an argument when they result to personal attacks
So why didn't the propaganda site give us some figures on those projected cost compared before Obama care if that was the case
look you might have gotten away with your bullshit before I joined these forums but not anymore. I'm here. I chew up and spit out liberals like you
and also those projected cost are based on 7 million signing up before Dec 15
The stories regarding doubling and tripling of premiums for lesser plans are bullshit.
You fuckers are simply dishonest people.
ok lets play. what do you got. show me other then 5 states that premiums haven't increased
And no I don't want to see no BS anecdotal evidence I want figures and averages
or are you another hit and run liberal make a false statement get called out on the statement and they run away like a scared little girl
The five states he refers to are:
Amount of decrease in insurance premiums as a result of Obamacare for an Adult Age 27, Adult Age 50, and Family of Four respectively.
Colorado: -30.1 %, -25.8%, -6.0%
New Jersey: -2.9%, -1.1%, -0.3%
New York: -28.8%, -28.8%, -6.7%
Ohio: -1.6%, -1.6%, -0.4%
Rhode Island: -28.1%, -16.1%, -3.9%
Even so, only five states saw decreases. Out of fifty. That's pathetic.
Going from a pre-Obamacare healthcare plan to an Obamacare plan?
How about this real life example?
Meet Butch Matthews, A Republican Who Came To Love Obamacare After Realizing It Will Save Him $13,000
anecdotal evidence is just that anecdotal evidence
Butch Matthews is from Arkansas and the average price increase for health insurance for a man his age is 79%. So from his own stupidity he was getting over charged before Obama care and one other thing that stands out from the propaganda site. tell me what Obama care plan has only a 750 dollar deductible? he says he purchased a silver policy that has a deductible of 2k
this is what you get from linking and believing in a liberal propaganda site "Think Progress" untruths
lol, you had no link and then someone helped you out with a link from the Weekly Standard.
Your provides NO proof that 16 million are 'losing' their insurance.
Prices are cheaper in every state reporting new prices, dingbats lol...
ok lets play. what do you got. show me other then 5 states that premiums haven't increased
And no I don't want to see no BS anecdotal evidence I want figures and averages
or are you another hit and run liberal make a false statement get called out on the statement and they run away like a scared little girl
The five states he refers to are:
Amount of decrease in insurance premiums as a result of Obamacare for an Adult Age 27, Adult Age 50, and Family of Four respectively.
Colorado: -30.1 %, -25.8%, -6.0%
New Jersey: -2.9%, -1.1%, -0.3%
New York: -28.8%, -28.8%, -6.7%
Ohio: -1.6%, -1.6%, -0.4%
Rhode Island: -28.1%, -16.1%, -3.9%
Even so, only five states saw decreases. Out of fifty. That's pathetic.
I wonder how those states saw decreases. Perhaps they already had their own version of Obama Care and are now proposing to see benefit from federal assistance? Do the numbers include the federal subsidy checks?
anecdotal evidence is just that anecdotal evidence
Butch Matthews is from Arkansas and the average price increase for health insurance for a man his age is 79%. So from his own stupidity he was getting over charged before Obama care and one other thing that stands out from the propaganda site. tell me what Obama care plan has only a 750 dollar deductible? he says he purchased a silver policy that has a deductible of 2k
this is what you get from linking and believing in a liberal propaganda site "Think Progress" untruths
lol, you had no link and then someone helped you out with a link from the Weekly Standard.
Your provides NO proof that 16 million are 'losing' their insurance.
Im new you are not allowed to give links till you make at least 15 post
but believe me I will and or can back every dam thing I state
you will learn not to challenge me
ok lets play. what do you got. show me other then 5 states that premiums haven't increased
And no I don't want to see no BS anecdotal evidence I want figures and averages
or are you another hit and run liberal make a false statement get called out on the statement and they run away like a scared little girl
The five states he refers to are:
Amount of decrease in insurance premiums as a result of Obamacare for an Adult Age 27, Adult Age 50, and Family of Four respectively.
Colorado: -30.1 %, -25.8%, -6.0%
New Jersey: -2.9%, -1.1%, -0.3%
New York: -28.8%, -28.8%, -6.7%
Ohio: -1.6%, -1.6%, -0.4%
Rhode Island: -28.1%, -16.1%, -3.9%
Even so, only five states saw decreases. Out of fifty. That's pathetic.
I wonder how those states saw decreases. Perhaps they already had their own version of Obama Care and are now proposing to see benefit from federal assistance? Do the numbers include the federal subsidy checks?
The five states he refers to are:
Amount of decrease in insurance premiums as a result of Obamacare for an Adult Age 27, Adult Age 50, and Family of Four respectively.
Colorado: -30.1 %, -25.8%, -6.0%
New Jersey: -2.9%, -1.1%, -0.3%
New York: -28.8%, -28.8%, -6.7%
Ohio: -1.6%, -1.6%, -0.4%
Rhode Island: -28.1%, -16.1%, -3.9%
Even so, only five states saw decreases. Out of fifty. That's pathetic.
I wonder how those states saw decreases. Perhaps they already had their own version of Obama Care and are now proposing to see benefit from federal assistance? Do the numbers include the federal subsidy checks?
federal subsides isn't a savings it is just someone else paying the difference
I wonder how those states saw decreases. Perhaps they already had their own version of Obama Care and are now proposing to see benefit from federal assistance? Do the numbers include the federal subsidy checks?
federal subsides isn't a savings it is just someone else paying the difference
That's ok it won't be us, it'll be our children's children who pay for these people to get their subsidies.
