100 Billion for Climate Change

[Navy1960]

The United States on Thursday announced it would help build a $100 billion annual fund by 2020 to help poor countries cope with climate change, but said its commitment depended on whether the nations gathered here could reach a substantive pact that includes "transparency" on tracking emissions cuts.

US commits 100 billion dollars for climate change initiatives for poor nations

So are we just going to borrow more money from China to put into this fund and let furute generations of Americans watch this nation slide deeper into debt. When this nation is having trouble employing its own people, and finding funding for healthcare we come up with money for this. This is truley a poor decision.

 

[Oddball]

Yeah....It's all about the money.....Like none of us couldn't have guessed.

 

[blu]

borrowing money from china in order to get the upper hand to then yell at them about their own emissions. pretty ftw

 

[Navy1960]

Dude, I'm frankly disgusted by this, how those that represent us can even suggest spending money that we do not have on this when this nation has so many issues to address at home. Whats most ironic about this, is that these are the same people who have made their careers condemning the previous Administration for it's forrays into Iraq and Afghanistan and complaining about spending money there that could have been spent here at home.

 

[Claudette]

Dude, I'm frankly disgusted by this, how those that represent us can even suggest spending money that we do not have on this when this nation has so many issues to address at home. Whats most ironic about this, is that these are the same people who have made their careers condemning the previous Administration for it's forrays into Iraq and Afghanistan and complaining about spending money there that could have been spent here at home.

I have to agree. HOw can those clowns pledge money we don't have to support something that science hasn't proved???

I know. They will just print more money. The Clowns in DC are a disgusting lot. Both freaking parties and OL"BO too.

 

[Oddball]

Dude, I'm frankly disgusted by this, how those that represent us can even suggest spending money that we do not have on this when this nation has so many issues to address at home. Whats most ironic about this, is that these are the same people who have made their careers condemning the previous Administration for it's forrays into Iraq and Afghanistan and complaining about spending money there that could have been spent here at home.

Shrub and his neoconettes threw in with this crap, as long as they got their war spending, too.

Not a dime's worth of difference.....

 

[Navy1960]

True enough Dude, it's why the same people who made all the noise about spending on the Wars who are now spending on everything that isnt nailed down with the notable exception of the people of this nation seems at the very least laughable, but sadly spending money we do not have for things such as these have little if any justification to them.

 

[Oddball]

That, and the schmucks who campaigned on an anti-war platform are now expanding the war.

Meanwhile, the GOP canard about going third party (or second, such as it is) throwing elections to democrat buffoons ring hollower and hollower.

 

[Xenophon]

Dude, I'm frankly disgusted by this, how those that represent us can even suggest spending money that we do not have on this when this nation has so many issues to address at home. Whats most ironic about this, is that these are the same people who have made their careers condemning the previous Administration for it's forrays into Iraq and Afghanistan and complaining about spending money there that could have been spent here at home.

You actually bought in to their bullshit?

Each party has things they want to waste money on, that have little to do with helping the nation out.

For the GoP douchebags, they had bought into the FDR/Truman world police deal, and want to invade countries and buy lots weapons.

For the Democrats, its goofy socialist programs that don't really help people but instead make them more depended on government and throwing money at the rest of the world, no matter how broke we are.

Both are disgusting.

 

[Navy1960]

You and I both know Dude the only way this nonsense will stop is when all those in power realize who the employers are and as long as people keep going into the voting booth and just voting for the party rather than the person and the merits of the person, then it will change regardless of the R or D or even I after then name.

 

[Big Black Dog]

What a complete scam this climate change stuff is. We're even bigger dummies for allowing our government to spend billions on something as foolish as climate change. When will we ever learn. We keep allowing our government to do stuff like this unchecked so really there is nobody to blame except for ourselves. The government is very foolish to spend money this way but we are bigger fools for continually allowing it.

 

[xsited1]

100 Billion for Climate Change

Just print more money. No biggie.

 

[Navy1960]

Dude, I'm frankly disgusted by this, how those that represent us can even suggest spending money that we do not have on this when this nation has so many issues to address at home. Whats most ironic about this, is that these are the same people who have made their careers condemning the previous Administration for it's forrays into Iraq and Afghanistan and complaining about spending money there that could have been spent here at home.

You actually bought in to their bullshit?

Each party has things they want to waste money on, that have little to do with helping the nation out.

For the GoP douchebags, they had bought into the FDR/Truman world police deal, and want to invade countries and buy lots weapons.

For the Democrats, its goofy socialist programs that don't really help people but instead make them more depended on government and throwing money at the rest of the world, no matter how broke we are.

Both are disgusting.

I don't know what in my post led you to ask that idea there Xeno, however I will say this, like most Republicans back during the lead up to the war, I won't run from what I was thinking back then like some do these days. I felt when Gen. Powell gave his speech to the UN that the evidence sounded credible not having the virtue of being in the CIA or knowing the assesments that others were looking at. Further, I also thought that the original mission in Afghanistan to seek out terrorists and destroy them was in principle a good mission, but will be the first to tell you that it was and has been wholly mismanaged. So given the last Administrations management and free spending and the current one it's hard to know where one ends and the other begins.

 

[Xenophon]

Dude, I'm frankly disgusted by this, how those that represent us can even suggest spending money that we do not have on this when this nation has so many issues to address at home. Whats most ironic about this, is that these are the same people who have made their careers condemning the previous Administration for it's forrays into Iraq and Afghanistan and complaining about spending money there that could have been spent here at home.

You actually bought in to their bullshit?

Each party has things they want to waste money on, that have little to do with helping the nation out.

For the GoP douchebags, they had bought into the FDR/Truman world police deal, and want to invade countries and buy lots weapons.

For the Democrats, its goofy socialist programs that don't really help people but instead make them more depended on government and throwing money at the rest of the world, no matter how broke we are.

Both are disgusting.

I don't know what in my post led you to ask that idea there Xeno, however I will say this, like most Republicans back during the lead up to the war, I won't run from what I was thinking back then like some do these days. I felt when Gen. Powell gave his speech to the UN that the evidence sounded credible not having the virtue of being in the CIA or knowing the assesments that others were looking at. Further, I also thought that the original mission in Afghanistan to seek out terrorists and destroy them was in principle a good mission, but will be the first to tell you that it was and has been wholly mismanaged. So given the last Administrations management and free spending and the current one it's hard to know where one ends and the other begins.

One of the oldest principles of war is, don't start one unless you are fully prepared to do whatever it takes to win it.

This has been forgotten for over 60 yars now, so we see repeats over and over of 'interventions' that solve nothing and just add up casualties.

I knew both wars would be a waste of lives and money, and that the USA was not even fighting its real enemy.

The real enemy is our 'friends' in the saudi Royal family who spend billions on converting people to violent whabbist fundementalist islam, we do NOTHING about this, and even help them do it.

Chasing about Afghanistan will never stop our real foes.

 

[Meister]

The United States on Thursday announced it would help build a $100 billion annual fund by 2020 to help poor countries cope with climate change, but said its commitment depended on whether the nations gathered here could reach a substantive pact that includes "transparency" on tracking emissions cuts.

US commits 100 billion dollars for climate change initiatives for poor nations

So are we just going to borrow more money from China to put into this fund and let furute generations of Americans watch this nation slide deeper into debt. When this nation is having trouble employing its own people, and finding funding for healthcare we come up with money for this. This is truley a poor decision.

If this is signed, it will be legallly binding, won't it?
I think it's suppose to start in 2020.
Just more redistribution of wealth to the pockets of corrupt governments

 

[Navy1960]

Interesting question wouldn't this be a treaty? if so would not this require some sort of congressional approval? I'm not sure, but I would venture to guess that the President cannot just take 100 Billion and give it to some worldwide fund for climate change without some sort of congressional approval.

 

[Xenophon]

The United States on Thursday announced it would help build a $100 billion annual fund by 2020 to help poor countries cope with climate change, but said its commitment depended on whether the nations gathered here could reach a substantive pact that includes "transparency" on tracking emissions cuts.

US commits 100 billion dollars for climate change initiatives for poor nations

So are we just going to borrow more money from China to put into this fund and let furute generations of Americans watch this nation slide deeper into debt. When this nation is having trouble employing its own people, and finding funding for healthcare we come up with money for this. This is truley a poor decision.

If this is signed, it will be legallly binding, won't it?
I think it's suppose to start in 2020.
Just more redistribution of wealth to the pockets of corrupt governments

No Congress can leagally bind a future Congress.

No mater what is agreed to it can always be changed, nothing is written in stone.

 

[Periskop7]

Let´s save the world, but make it free for everyone!

 

[Gatekeeper]

Dude, I'm frankly disgusted by this, how those that represent us can even suggest spending money that we do not have on this when this nation has so many issues to address at home. Whats most ironic about this, is that these are the same people who have made their careers condemning the previous Administration for it's forrays into Iraq and Afghanistan and complaining about spending money there that could have been spent here at home.

The United States on Thursday announced it would help build a $100 billion annual fund by 2020 to help poor countries cope with climate change, but said its commitment depended on whether the nations gathered here could reach a substantive pact that includes "transparency" on tracking emissions cuts.

US commits 100 billion dollars for climate change initiatives for poor nations

So are we just going to borrow more money from China to put into this fund and let furute generations of Americans watch this nation slide deeper into debt. When this nation is having trouble employing its own people, and finding funding for healthcare we come up with money for this. This is truley a poor decision.

If this is signed, it will be legallly binding, won't it?
I think it's suppose to start in 2020.
Just more redistribution of wealth to the pockets of corrupt governments

No Congress can leagally bind a future Congress.

No mater what is agreed to it can always be changed, nothing is written in stone.

So many good posts in this thread, however a couple of comments, one being:

'nothing is written in stone', seems to me that what is 'written in stone', is the citizens of this country will forever be subservient to those elected to office and they seem to consider themselves in most cases to be the "Elite Ruling Class", they seem to adopt the air of Arrogance, and even contempt for those that would disagree with their views. Making up names for those who would disagree, calling them various names hoping those names will morph into permanent labels pinned on those who desire nothing more than justice and fair play. Hmmmm, where have I seen this before

Far as some of the ridiculous decisions made by this administration, such as this '100 Billion pledge' (Robbery of the American Citizen), I have to ask on thing.

Who the Hell are they working for, Us or 'Them'!!

 

[California Girl]

$100billion.... and now the world loves us. Love is, apparently, no longer given freely.