PoliticalChic
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Emily Miller writes on the day of infamy...I mean anniversary of Obamacare...
Here is the outline.
"These are the top 10 failures of ObamaCare, starting with those that have had the most serious effect already on the economy, jobs, and the American people.
1. Explodes the Budget Deficit
2. Kills Jobs
3. Lose Your Own Doctor and Health Plan
4. States Budget Deficits Grow to Possible Bankruptcy
5. Higher Insurance Premiums:
6. Crushes Businesses
7. Fewer Americans Have Access to Health Insurance
8. Senior Citizens Lose Medicare Coverage:
9. Overburdens Small Business
10. Tax Hikes
Top 10 Failures of ObamaCare After One Year - HUMAN EVENTS
OK, one more opportunity to you Lefties to apologize...
...and genuflecting would be nice.
Waiting.
1. The deficit has already exploded, and unless you have investments, or planning to make a life purches i.e. home, it doesn't effect you as much as you would think. you adapt, like riding your bike when gas gets completely out of hand like it is now.
2. Kills jobs? every cut we make in the federal buget is adding to the unemployment numbers, does that make balancing our budget a job killer?
3. I couldn't afford a doctor or health plan before Obama care and I can't afford one now. no change.
4. This is the same as number one.
5. Higher insurance premiums Name one time in the history of man that premiums ever rolled back due to legislation? I couldn't afford the premiums before Obama care, and I can't now.
6. The company I worked for cancelled our insurance before Obama care passed because the cost was too high.
7. Again, No Ins before or after.
8. I have insufiecent info on the elderly
9. Small businesses quit providing ins. long before Obama care.
10. Taxes would go up. This I agree would happen, but I and my family would have health care.
For me this is a no brainer. If I get health care out of this legislation, it was a good thing, and the fact that my taxes would go up I would gladdly pay it, as this means that I'm participating in paying my part of the bill, making health care not a freebie. Helping business by removing the burden of cost of logistical personel i.e. lawyers, customer service. Businesses would save millions.
Specs, specs, specs....
1. "The deficit has already exploded,..." so, what?...keep on exploding?
"...it doesn't effect you as much as you would think..."
I can see you have a doctorate in economics, but could we consider the words of Peter R. Orszag, Director, Congressional Budget Office:
"As background to its estimates, the CBO notes that spending on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security will rise rapidly in the future, pushing up "primary" federal spending (excluding interest payments on the debt) from 18.2 percent of GDP today to 28.3 percent in 2050 and 35.3 percent in 2082. With interest payments included, spending will hit 41.8 percent of GDP in 2050 and 75.4 per¬cent by 2082 ."[t]he tax rate for the lowest bracket would have to be increased from 10 per¬cent to 25 percent; the tax rate on incomes in the current 25 percent bracket would have to be increased to 63 percent; and the tax rate of the highest bracket would have to be raised from 35 percent to 88 percent. The top corporate income tax rate would also increase from 35 percent to 88 percent."
Peter R. Orszag, Director, Congressional Budget Office, letter to Representative Paul Ryan (RWI), May 19, 2008, Taxes to Pay for Medicare, Medicaid, and SSI | Medicare Insurance | eons.com
Now, I know your lots smarter than ol' Pete, and have far more experience.....but, couldn't he be a little bit right?
2. "Kills jobs? every cut we make in the federal buget is adding to the unemployment"
See, I'm going to disagree with this one, too.
Everybody knows that 72.6% of our GDP is the production of red tape....so I'm gonna guess that cutting the size of government will also cut regulation and red tape, and allow business to do what government can't do: create jobs.
3. "I couldn't afford a doctor or health plan before Obama care and I can't afford one now. no change."
Let's make this he last one, Specs.
I don't know you well enough to call you a liar, and, anyway, the term liar is trademarked by the Left, so let's just say you represent the average guy.
Based on that surmise, 'not affording' really means you choose to spend your money elsewhere, and would rather have your neighbors pick up the tab for your healthcare...as every single (and married) individual in the whole country has the emergency room option.
Here is the break-down:
http://www.mymoneyblog.com/images/0908/moneygo900.jpg
US Dept of Labor, april 2009
Heres an interesting graphic of the spending breakdown for the average U.S. consumer. Its based a theoretical household unit consisting of 2.5 people, not individuals. Looks like such a household unit spends approximately $50,000 per year. Click on image for larger version.
Income before taxes $63,091
Average annual expenditures $49,638
2.5 in the family
1.3 earners, 67% are homeowners
Entertainment $2698 5.4%
Food 6133 12.4
Alcoholic Bev. 457 0.9
Healthcare 2853 5.7
Tobacco 323 0.7
Housing 16,920 34.1
Transportation 8758 17.6
(gas&oil) 2384` 4.8
Average food spending was $6133, of which $3465 was spent on meals at home. Based on this data, one can conclude that the average consumer unit spends roughly $300 per month on meals prepared at home and roughly $225 per month on meals away from home.
Each year, the average American spends $1881 on apparel and services, for example, but only $118 on books.
The chart doesnt include taxes because the government survey doesnt include taxes. If the average consumer unit earns $63,091 but spends $49,648, there are $13,443 unaccounted for. The personal saving rate in 2007 was less than 1%, so Im guessing that most of the unspecified money goes to taxes.
So, entertainment and alcohol accounts for more of your spending than healthcare, huh?
Grow up.