10 African Kingdoms No One Talks About But Should

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Africans invented steel centuries before those slow whites did.


Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


"The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

 

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Africans invented steel centuries before those slow whites did.


Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


"The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

You do realize that steel is just iron with some more carbon in it right?
Even if they did manage to make steel,which I doubt,it was more than likely an accident.
A Brief History of Iron and Steel Manufacture

 

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While mildly interesting, why SHOULD people talk about these?

I think the better question is why this isnt more widely known like ancient greece, Rome and other places?

To answer your question: Because history

Whitey's fault these people didn't leave a lot of books?

No...Of course you never heard of people destroying others history before right? Probably not

 

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The Indians were more advanced heir than the sub-Saharan. Their misfortune was to live in climes in which others wanted to live.

I don't know that I agree.

The Plains Indians had not discovered the wheel, had no written language, had not discovered how to domesticate animals and were stone age hunter gatherers. Most of the Central African tribes were well versed in animal husbandry and bred cows and goats as food.

Central American tribes were sophisticated, but the Plains Indians were as primitive as it's possible to be.

As you mentioned, "Indians is a generic term which also applies to all aboriginal Americans, including the Aztec and Maya. Go to Mexico and you will see pyramids both big and small which still stand.

This was done without any diffusion of any type except between their cultures. Sub-Saharan Africans had diffusion for centuries but were unable to exploit.

Those pyramids were built with Egyptian influences. The largest manmade structure was in what you monkeys call sub Sahara. To bad we dont confine ourselves to below the Sahara though.

Walls of Benin - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The Walls of Benin City was the world's largest man-made earth structure.[2] Fred Pearce wrote in New Scientist:

"They extend for some 16,000 kilometres in all, in a mosaic of more than 500 interconnected settlement boundaries. They cover 6,500 square kilometres and were all dug by the Edo people. In all, they are four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Cheops. They took an estimated 150 million hours of digging to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet.

OH, shut the fuck up. No one buys that shit!

AHahahahahaa...You dont have to buy reality silly. It exists whether you purchase or not

 

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Africans invented steel centuries before those slow whites did.


Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


"The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

You do realize that steel is just iron with some more carbon in it right?
Even if they did manage to make steel,which I doubt,it was more than likely an accident.
A Brief History of Iron and Steel Manufacture

Just remember tho...at first Africans didnt contribute tho...now that you have some information...uh "ok ok they contributed steel but like...maybe it was by accident and steel? Who cares about that?"

 

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While mildly interesting, why SHOULD people talk about these?

I think the better question is why this isnt more widely known like ancient greece, Rome and other places?

To answer your question: Because history

What were these civilizations achievements to math, science, agriculture, medicine etc? Heck the Mayans had brilliant achievements and that is why they are most remember, but what have these societies done?

Take the Bornu Empire, these were a people constantly at war and invading neighbors. They were a strict Islamic regime that enacted and enforced Sharia Law. They were a brutal Islamic regime that would make the Taliban proud. Despite their long recent and relatively recent history history (1800s is when they fell), they build only feudal cities, had non-existent economies and again were a brutal regime! They didn't advance human society in the slightest. Also let's not forget their helpful hand in the African slave trade. They raided villages and conquered people and then sold them off to slave traders!

 

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See the reaction from black history? All I did was present an article and the fangs came out.

Why should I know?
They havent done anything
Ok they've done stuff but I think its silly stuff
This is stupid
etc etc etc

Never even heard of these cultures but the sheer fact that they are black...the reaction is hatred or belittling.

I'm sure its just because you dislike their policies tho right?

 

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Africans invented steel centuries before those slow whites did.


Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


"The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

You do realize that steel is just iron with some more carbon in it right?
Even if they did manage to make steel,which I doubt,it was more than likely an accident.
A Brief History of Iron and Steel Manufacture

Just remember tho...at first Africans didnt contribute tho...now that you have some information...uh "ok ok they contributed steel but like...maybe it was by accident and steel? Who cares about that?"

When you consider charcoal is used in the fire,I would bet whoever it was who invented steel did it on accident.

 

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While mildly interesting, why SHOULD people talk about these?

I think the better question is why this isnt more widely known like ancient greece, Rome and other places?

To answer your question: Because history

What were these civilizations achievements to math, science, agriculture, medicine etc? Heck the Mayans had brilliant achievements and that is why they are most remember, but what have these societies done?

Take the Bornu Empire, these were a people constantly at war and invading neighbors. They were a strict Islamic regime that enacted and enforced Sharia Law. They were a brutal Islamic regime that would make the Taliban proud. Despite their long recent and relatively recent history history (1800s is when they fell), they build only feudal cities, had non-existent economies and again were a brutal regime! They didn't advance human society in the slightest. Also let's not forget their helpful hand in the African slave trade. They raided villages and conquered people and then sold them off to slave traders!

Great achievements in science and technology in ancient Africa

Math
Surely only a few of us know that many modern high-school-level concepts in mathematics first were developed in Africa, as was the first method of counting. More than 35,000 years ago, Egyptians scripted textbooks about math that included division and multiplication of fractions and geometric formulas to calculate the area and volume of shapes (3). Distances and angles were calculated, algebraic equations were solved and mathematically based predictions were made of the size of floods of the Nile. The ancient Egyptians considered a circle to have 360 degrees and estimated Π at 3.16 (3).

Eight thousand years ago, people in present-day Zaire developed their own numeration system, as did Yoruba people in what is now Nigeria. The Yoruba system was based on units of 20 (instead of 10) and required an impressive amount of subtraction to identify different numbers. Scholars have lauded this system, as it required much abstract reasoning (4).


Not good enough?

Astronomy
Several ancient African cultures birthed discoveries in astronomy. Many of these are foundations on which we still rely, and some were so advanced that their mode of discovery still cannot be understood. Egyptians charted the movement of the sun and constellations and the cycles of the moon. They divided the year into 12 parts and developed a yearlong calendar system containing 365 ¼ days (3). Clocks were made with moving water and sundial-like clocks were used (3).

A structure known as the African Stonehenge in present-day Kenya (constructed around 300 B.C.) was a remarkably accurate calendar (5). The Dogon people of Mali amassed a wealth of detailed astronomical observations (6). Many of their discoveries were so advanced that some modern scholars credit their discoveries instead to space aliens or unknown European travelers, even though the Dogon culture is steeped in ceremonial tradition centered on several space events. The Dogon knew of Saturn’s rings, Jupiter’s moons, the spiral structure of the Milky Way and the orbit of the Sirius star system. Hundreds of years ago, they plotted orbits in this system accurately through the year 1990 (6). They knew this system contained a primary star and a secondary star (now called Sirius B) of immense density and not visible to the naked eye.

 

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Africans invented steel centuries before those slow whites did.


Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


"The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

You do realize that steel is just iron with some more carbon in it right?
Even if they did manage to make steel,which I doubt,it was more than likely an accident.
A Brief History of Iron and Steel Manufacture

Just remember tho...at first Africans didnt contribute tho...now that you have some information...uh "ok ok they contributed steel but like...maybe it was by accident and steel? Who cares about that?"

When you consider charcoal is used in the fire,I would bet whoever it was who invented steel did it on accident.

So?

 

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Just remember tho...at first Africans didnt contribute tho...now that you have some information...uh "ok ok they contributed steel but like...maybe it was by accident and steel? Who cares about that?"

What did they build with steel? Or did they just patent it and sell the rights of production?

 

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Africans invented steel centuries before those slow whites did.


Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


"The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

You do realize that steel is just iron with some more carbon in it right?
Even if they did manage to make steel,which I doubt,it was more than likely an accident.
A Brief History of Iron and Steel Manufacture

Just remember tho...at first Africans didnt contribute tho...now that you have some information...uh "ok ok they contributed steel but like...maybe it was by accident and steel? Who cares about that?"

When you consider charcoal is used in the fire,I would bet whoever it was who invented steel did it on accident.

So?

Accidentally spilling some charcoal in the ol smelter is hardly an accomplishment.
Making steel an affordable alternative was.

 

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Just remember tho...at first Africans didnt contribute tho...now that you have some information...uh "ok ok they contributed steel but like...maybe it was by accident and steel? Who cares about that?"

What did they build with steel? Or did they just patent it and sell the rights of production?

Metallurgy and tools
Many advances in metallurgy and tool making were made across the entirety of ancient Africa. These include steam engines, metal chisels and saws, copper and iron tools and weapons, nails, glue, carbon steel and bronze weapons and art (2, 7).

Advances in Tanzania, Rwanda and Uganda between 1,500 and 2,000 years ago surpassed those of Europeans then and were astonishing to Europeans when they learned of them. Ancient Tanzanian furnaces could reach 1,800°C — 200 to 400°C warmer than those of the Romans (8).

Iceweasels Response: A Furnance? What did they do with the furnace? BIG DEAL!??!? WAAAAA!

 

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Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

You do realize that steel is just iron with some more carbon in it right?
Even if they did manage to make steel,which I doubt,it was more than likely an accident.
A Brief History of Iron and Steel Manufacture

Just remember tho...at first Africans didnt contribute tho...now that you have some information...uh "ok ok they contributed steel but like...maybe it was by accident and steel? Who cares about that?"

When you consider charcoal is used in the fire,I would bet whoever it was who invented steel did it on accident.

So?

Accidentally spilling some charcoal in the ol smelter is hardly an accomplishment.
Making steel an affordable alternative was.

According to you creating steel is a no biggie huh? LMAO...Now you're going into sillysville.

If it was no biggie why then: Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In spite of the lack of practice the elders were able to create a furnace using mud and grass which when burned provided the carbon needed to transform the iron into steel. Later investigation of the land yielded 13 other furnaces similar in design to the re-creation set up by the elders. This process is very similar to open hearth furnace steelmaking.

These furnaces were carbon-dated and were found to be as old as 2000 years. Steel of similar quality did not appear in Europe until several centuries later.[5]

No big deal but Europe couldnt do it until hundreds of years later. LOL!!

 

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You do realize that steel is just iron with some more carbon in it right?
Even if they did manage to make steel,which I doubt,it was more than likely an accident.
A Brief History of Iron and Steel Manufacture

Just remember tho...at first Africans didnt contribute tho...now that you have some information...uh "ok ok they contributed steel but like...maybe it was by accident and steel? Who cares about that?"

When you consider charcoal is used in the fire,I would bet whoever it was who invented steel did it on accident.

So?

Accidentally spilling some charcoal in the ol smelter is hardly an accomplishment.
Making steel an affordable alternative was.

According to you creating steel is a no biggie huh? LMAO...Now you're going into sillysville.

If it was no biggie why then: Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In spite of the lack of practice the elders were able to create a furnace using mud and grass which when burned provided the carbon needed to transform the iron into steel. Later investigation of the land yielded 13 other furnaces similar in design to the re-creation set up by the elders. This process is very similar to open hearth furnace steelmaking.

These furnaces were carbon-dated and were found to be as old as 2000 years. Steel of similar quality did not appear in Europe until several centuries later.[5]

No big deal but Europe couldnt do it until hundreds of years later. LOL!!

Spill a little charcoal in the smelter....steel.
Boy that took some technological genius right there....

 

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Africans invented steel centuries before those slow whites did.


Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


"The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

Doesnt really matter what you call bull on. Facts are facts.

 

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Africans invented steel centuries before those slow whites did.


Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


"The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

You do realize that steel is just iron with some more carbon in it right?
Even if they did manage to make steel,which I doubt,it was more than likely an accident.
A Brief History of Iron and Steel Manufacture

If it was so easy why didnt whites do it first?

 

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Architecture and engineering
Various past African societies created sophisticated built environments. Of course, there are the engineering feats of the Egyptians: the bafflingly raised obelisks and the more than 80 pyramids. The largest of the pyramids covers 13 acres and is made of 2.25 million blocks of stone (3). Later, in the 12th century and much farther south, there were hundreds of great cities in Zimbabwe and Mozambique. There, massive stone complexes were the hubs of cities. One included a 250-meter-long, 15,000-ton curved granite wall (9). The cities featured huge castlelike compounds with numerous rooms for specific tasks, such as iron-smithing. In the 13th century, the empire of Mali boasted impressive cities, including Timbuktu, with grand palaces, mosques and universities (2).

 

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Africans invented steel centuries before those slow whites did.


Haya people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


"The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

Say what? Oral tradition? Oh, they couldn't write. Didn't have wheels. I call bull on making steel.

You do realize that steel is just iron with some more carbon in it right?
Even if they did manage to make steel,which I doubt,it was more than likely an accident.
A Brief History of Iron and Steel Manufacture

Just remember tho...at first Africans didnt contribute tho...now that you have some information...uh "ok ok they contributed steel but like...maybe it was by accident and steel? Who cares about that?"

When you consider charcoal is used in the fire,I would bet whoever it was who invented steel did it on accident.

So why didnt whites invent steel on accident? Didnt they have charcoal?

 

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Medicine
Many treatments we use today were employed by several ancient peoples throughout Africa. Before the European invasion of Africa, medicine in what is now Egypt, Nigeria and South Africa, to name just a few places, was more advanced than medicine in Europe. Some of these practices were the use of plants with salicylic acid for pain (as in aspirin), kaolin for diarrhea (as in Kaopectate), and extracts that were confirmed in the 20th century to kill Gram positive bacteria (2). Other plants used had anticancer properties, caused abortion and treated malaria — and these have been shown to be as effective as many modern-day Western treatments. Furthermore, Africans discovered ouabain, capsicum, physostigmine and reserpine. Medical procedures performed in ancient Africa before they were performed in Europe include vaccination, autopsy, limb traction and broken bone setting, bullet removal, brain surgery, skin grafting, filling of dental cavities, installation of false teeth, what is now known as Caesarean section, anesthesia and tissue cauterization (3). In addition, African cultures preformed surgeries under antiseptic conditions universally when this concept was only emerging in Europe (2).