Judge denies Meadows request to move Georgia case to federal court

[Marener]

That’s quite a conspiracy theory.

Actually it isn’t at all.

Trump was asking state legislators to appoint new electors for him, which would take out the electors that the people had chosen, therefore it was nullifying the election.

 

[Hollie]

Actually it isn’t at all.

Trump was asking state legislators to appoint new electors for him, which would take out the electors that the people had chosen, therefore it was nullifying the election.

Could you provide the exact citation, the exact reference to Trump asking state legislators to appoint new electors for him.

Which state legislators have identified they were asked by Trump to appoint new electors for him.

 

[SavannahMann]

Could you provide the exact citation, the exact reference to Trump asking state legislators to appoint new electors for him.

Which state legislators have identified they were asked by Trump to appoint new electors for him.

You know it is in the indictment right? All the information you are demanding has been public for a couple weeks.

 

[Marener]

Could you provide the exact citation, the exact reference to Trump asking state legislators to appoint new electors for him.

Which state legislators have identified they were asked by Trump to appoint new electors for him.

It’s about a dozen of the acts listed in the Georgia indictment, starting around act 7.

Rusty Bowers from Arizona testified under oath this is what Trump asked him to do.

Trump has a meeting with 20 electors from Pennsylvania to try to persuade them to appoint new electors.

 

[0311]

So none of the DOJ's desperate smear attempts on Trump were investigations?

Yes, Trump wanted a specific outcome. But Raffensperger doesn't work for Trump and had no obligation to do what Trump asked him to do. You may not like what Trump said, but that doesn't make it a crime.

P01135809 conspired to nullify the will of the Voters in Georgia. He specifically asked the Governor of Georgia to find, "11,780 Votes". When Governor Kemp refused and when Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger refused to recount, P01135809 became actively involved Slate of False Electors in Georgia. Several have already admitted they acted under direction and under authority of P01135809.

When P01135809 asked by Kemp and Raffensperger to "Just find us 11,780 Votes", he was asking them to commit whole sale Election Fraud.

By involving himself in Fake Electors Scheme, while still in the WH, it became a Conspiracy. He conspired with Ghouli, the Kracken and Chesebor (to name a few) to overturn the will of the Voters of Georgia by
fake and fraudulent means, whilie still in D.C. it became a RICO case.

Ghouli, the Kracken, Eastman and Chesebro acted at the driection or and by the authority of P01135808 to overturn election results in Georgia and other states, it was conspiracy. It became a RICO case.

To overturn an Election by fraudulent means is felony under Georgia State Law and U.S. Federal Law, engage in a conspiracy in doing make those fraudulent means makes a RICO case.

13-Counts of RICO, 5-Year Minimum on each count under each count come out 65-Years.

That is what P01135809 did. That is P01135809 faces.

 

[0311]

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[Seymour Flops]

P01135809 conspired to nullify the will of the Voters in Georgia. He specifically asked the Governor of Georgia to find, "11,780 Votes". When Governor Kemp refused and when Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger refused to recount, P01135809 became actively involved Slate of False Electors in Georgia. Several have already admitted they acted under direction and under authority of P01135809.

When P01135809 asked by Kemp and Raffensperger to "Just find us 11,780 Votes", he was asking to commit whole sale Election Fraud.

By involving himself in Fake Electors Scheme, while still in the WH, it became a Conspiracy. He conspired with Ghouli, the Kracken and Chesebor (to name a few) to overturn the will of the Voters of Georgia by
fake and fraudulent means, whilie still in D.C. it became a RICO case.

Ghouli, the Kracken, Eastman and Chesebro acted at the driection or and by the authority of P01135808 to overturn election results in Georgia and other states, it was conspiracy. It became a RICO case.

Looking to see if some Trump votes might have been missed is not a crime. Nor is it a crime to name the number of Trump votes that would be needed in a recount for Trump to win. In 2020, the media gave us a running count of how many more votes "we need" for Gore to end up winning Florida.

The so-called "Fake Electors" were alternative electors standing by in case the electors sent were rejected. It was a sound move to avoid having a state lose it's electoral votes. Can you cite a criminal statute that makes it a crime?

 

[0311]

Of course Trump didn’t change any vote totals. He was telling Raffensperger to change the vote totals for him.

You keep pretending that Trump was asking for something to be checked out. He wasn’t. He was telling Raffensperger directly that the vote was wrong and it needed to be changed by a certain amount.

That’s a huge difference and it’s where he goes from challenging an election to rigging it.

P01135809 was telling Raffensperger to commit Election Fraud. That is what he was doing.

 

[Marener]

The so-called "Fake Electors" were alternative electors standing by in case the electors sent were rejected.

Why would the state electors be rejected? The real state electors were properly certified by the governor and sent to Congress.

 

[0311]

Looking to see if some Trump votes might have been missed is not a crime.

Yes it is, its called Election Fraud. P01135809 wanted, needed, craved Raffensperger to find votes, that is Election Fraud. The telephonic commuicantion prove that P01135809 wanted a specific amount of vote, 11,708 to exact. Just enough to overturn the election results in Georgia.

It not "looking to see", it was an deliberate attempt to overturn the results of the Georgia Election It was Election Fraud. P01135809 wanted to overturn the will of the Voters of Georgia. Votes are NO just something you pick up along the way. They not lost items, they are will of the people.
P01135809 wanted both Kemp and Raffensperger to commit Voter Fraud. They refused. Election Fraud is both State and Federal Felony. One does not just ask for votes without knowing that.

 

[0311]

The so-called "Fake Electors" 809

P01135809 was actvely invoved in that scheme. The fake electors said they acting by the direction P01135809.

By being actively in the fake electors scheme, he knowinly and willingly engaged in a conspiracy to overturn the Georgia Election. Its called RICO.

 

[Delldude]

I don't think this is appealable.

Already has.

 

[Marener]

Already has.

Little more than another delay tactic.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why would the state electors be rejected? The real state electors were properly certified by the governor and sent to Congress.

Different question. Unless you are now going to say that it was a crime to believe that state electors might be rejected.

I'm not claiming that what Trump did in trying to fight the Biden victory was perfect and that everyone was pleased by it. I'm asking if there is proof that he committed a crime.

 

[Marener]

Different question. Unless you are now going to say that it was a crime to believe that state electors might be rejected.

I'm not claiming that what Trump did in trying to fight the Biden victory was perfect and that everyone was pleased by it. I'm asking if there is proof that he committed a crime.

You brought it up, which makes it relevant. When it comes to fraud, the motivation of the fraudsters makes a big difference.

So why would they think the real electors would be rejected?

 

[Seymour Flops]

You brought it up, which makes it relevant. When it comes to fraud, the motivation of the fraudsters makes a big difference.

So why would they think the real electors would be rejected?

Because of all the election fraud, of course.

Or is it a crime for me to write that?

 

[Marener]

Because of all the election fraud, of course.

Or is it a crime for me to write that?

Who is going to reject the electors “because of all the election fraud”? How does that even work?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Who is going to reject the electors “because of all the election fraud”? How does that even work?

Sounds like an interesting topic.

If you are not just diverting from the question of how you can prove Trump committed a crime, feel free to start a thread about it. Use that exact question as the title, and I'll be happy to answer.

Meanwhile, I take it you have no idea what specific actions Trump took that violated a specific criminal statute?

 

[Marener]

Because of all the election fraud, of course.

Somewhat related question.

Election fraud would include things like people casting votes for president who are not legally entitled to cast votes.

Right?

 

[Marener]

Sounds like an interesting topic.

If you are not just diverting from the question of how you can prove Trump committed a crime, feel free to start a thread about it. Use that exact question as the title, and I'll be happy to answer.

Meanwhile, I take it you have no idea what specific actions Trump took that violated a specific criminal statute?

But I do.

You’re attempting to provide an innocent justification for people engaging in fraud, however that justification is nonsensical.

There is no reason to think the real electors would or could be rejected and furthermore even if that were true, it wouldn’t magically make the fake electors legitimate. They’d still be fraudulent.