Zone1 Jews confronted with Tanakh

You have a problem, you can’t back up your claims with biblical text.

This book covers a lot of what modern 'Judaism' is. I don't support some of the stuff later in the book but the history and much of the theological evidence is solid.


When they knew God, they glorified Him not as God.... but became vain in their reasoning, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.”

The “Jews' religion” of first-century Palestine was the byproduct of centuries of change and upheaval. From the Babylonian Exile to the reforms of Ezra and Nehemiah—and from the Maccabean wars to the iron grip of Roman occupation—cultural, political and religious forces collided to shape the convoluted religion which would ultimately become known as Judaism. Benchmarks in that long and complex process include the augmented role of scribes after the close of the “age of the prophets,” which led to the development of so-called oral traditions; the influence of Hellenism, which prompted the emergence of the Hasidim, progenitors of the sect of the Pharisees; the rise of rabbinical Judaism as a result of the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD; and, finally, the writing of the Mishnah around 200 AD and the completion of the Talmud in 500 AD.

Yet, the term Judaism is often misapplied. It is typically assumed to be the “religion” of the Old Testament—or at least the “religion” of post-exilic Judea under Ezra and Nehemiah; the term is also frequently used to generalize the various religious movements of first century Palestine. But as has been premised, Judaism is in no way representative of the “religion” of Moses or the prophets. Neither is Judaism representative of the restorative period of Ezra and Nehemiah (though the stage was set at that time for the rise of the scribes to prominence)—nor is it a conglomerate of the various Jewish religions or creeds of Jesus' day. Rather, as will be demonstrated throughout this book, Judaism is a religious system which developed through the teachings of the Pharisees (with their scribal leaders) primarily in response to the Hellenization of Judea in the second and third centuries BC. (Even the term “Judeo-Christian” is quite misleading, as genuine Christianity is in no way congruent with Judaism; see Appendix Six.)


.. and so on. A very accurate history of the Babylonian cult's eventual abandonment of the Hebrewism of Moses and Abraham in favor of idiotic self-serving Master Race nonsense. Jews, once over 10% of the population of the Empire, went into a permanent decline.

See Also this excellent and heavily sourced book on 1st Century Jerusalem.


It provides an excellent background for much of what is going on in the NT's times. Between the two people will get a pretty good intro.
 
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You have a problem, you can’t back up your claims with biblical text.
Sure I can I simply point to biblical texts which explain that every king and high priest was a human male (sons af Aaron or males in the Davidic line.) You want those verses?
 
Sure I can I simply point to biblical texts which explain that every king and high priest was a human male (sons af Aaron or males in the Davidic line.) You want those verses?
Which has nothing to do with the messiah.

Classic Talmud tap dance.
 
Which has nothing to do with the messiah.

Classic Talmud tap dance.
Sure it does. You don't know what a messiah is? Show me any biblical text which supports your vision of what a messiah is.
 
This is fascinating. Thanks.

but this is common sense the head priest comes out of the gathering of Kohanim which in slang were called clouds for their puffy white robes appeared like clouds when gathered.

Hence Daniel saying son of man comes out or with the clouds(gathered hosts) and Theslonians saying with the call of the arch (top) angel (priest) to come up to zion to the gathering of priests (clouds).
The description becomes clear used to mean gathering in 1kings and the Dead Sea Scrolls helps validate that interp as it gives us context on use of words (poetic imagery descriptions)in the Biblical era. Also it's open to 2 interps when describing "out of" or "with the clouds" as I described, because the scroll elsewhere describes the Moshiach coming from the Aaronic lineage- the Kohanim-Line of priests so literally coming "out of" that gathered Lineage =(clouds) and "with the gathering" (with the clouds).

*source: out of Kohanim lineage (per scrolls IQS IX, II FROM FRAGMENT
4QSe [4Q259])
 
Some here prove that every day. Most Jews are secular in any case, not Orthodox or ultra-Orthodox, but the latter or a sizable demographic in Israel more so than in the U.S.
Do you understand that a Jew may not be Orthodox and yet not secular?
 
The description becomes clear used to mean gathering in 1kings and the Dead Sea Scrolls helps validate that interp as it gives us context on use of words (poetic imagery descriptions)in the Biblical era. Also it's open to 2 interps when describing "out of" or "with the clouds" as I described, because the scroll elsewhere describes the Moshiach coming from the Aaronic lineage- the Kohanim-Line of priests so literally coming "out of" that gathered Lineage =(clouds) and "with the gathering" (with the clouds).

*source: out of Kohanim lineage (per scrolls IQS IX, II FROM FRAGMENT
4QSe [4Q259])
 
I would like to point out that the DNA of Kohanim can be easily ascertained by using past research in I believe it was 188 case subject where it was found by research using twelve Y-STR markers indicated that nearly half of contemporary Jewish Kohanim shared Y-chromosomal J1 M267 (specifically haplogroup J-P58, also called J1c3), while other Kohanim share a different ancestry, such as haplogroup J2a (J-M410). The “cloud” reference which you explained so well shows how out of touch most are in regards to their thinking and giving supernatural powers to a mere human who will be acting as a mediary or like the head of a large corporation or business on behalf of the people.It shows how out of touch really bad teachers are and the need for a proper platform( a rebuilt temple) so that the mos is h to come will be able to properly teach the true concepts so that everyone can partake of its fruit which will be untainted , palatable and sweet to eat of or partake of… Much better then the rotten fruit( or teachings) that most people have been forced to eat over the last two millennium that is for sure…
 

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