Zionist Charlie Kirk was right to blame liberals for Oct 7 genocidal palestine attacks [Haaretzism]

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There were other failures but mainly it was "progressives" turmoil against Bibi for efforts on Judicial Reform.


There were other compounding errors, yes:



1. Netanyahu’s belief that olive branches—economic aid, work permits, and calm—would pacify Gaza.

2. A dangerous complacency among intelligence circles, who wrongly believed Hamas couldn’t pull off anything big.

3. An over-reliance on digital surveillance, instead of classic field intelligence and infiltration.



But the root failure was the internal disunity. Hamas didn’t break through Israeli fences because they were strong. They broke through because Israelis were weak—made weak by the Left’s political obsession and its willingness to burn down the house to stop reforms.
From Charlie Kirk. Quote:


"Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead".

 
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There were other failures but mainly it was "progressives" turmoil against Bibi for efforts on Judicial Reform.
From Charlie Kirk. Quote:
Sure. You run with those scissors.
I'm not a big believer in conspiracy theories but I have a really hard time believing that the vaunted and feared Israeli intelligence apparatus didn't see a bunch of adversaries getting ready to do them harm on the other side of a fence...let me repeat that. A fence. One the most heavily guarded and surveilled sections of border...IN THE WORLD!!

Bibi wanted this. The man who had a hand in actually creating Hamas saw the perfect opportunity to take advantage of the situation and drive the Palestinians from the confines of what constitutes the state of Israel.

And Kirk? Just another example of his division pimping. And his complete lack of understanding of the political differences in "progressives" here..and in Israel. Just broad-brushing BS. :)
 
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There were other failures but mainly it was "progressives" turmoil against Bibi for efforts on Judicial Reform.


There were other compounding errors, yes:



1. Netanyahu’s belief that olive branches—economic aid, work permits, and calm—would pacify Gaza.

2. A dangerous complacency among intelligence circles, who wrongly believed Hamas couldn’t pull off anything big.

3. An over-reliance on digital surveillance, instead of classic field intelligence and infiltration.



But the root failure was the internal disunity. Hamas didn’t break through Israeli fences because they were strong. They broke through because Israelis were weak—made weak by the Left’s political obsession and its willingness to burn down the house to stop reforms.
From Charlie Kirk. Quote:


"Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead".
Yup.

These scholars agree with that pot you quote, it seems:

The Judicial Reform in Israel: the Spark that Led to the October 7th war​

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Sure. You run with those scissors.
I'm not a big believer in conspiracy theories but I have a really hard time believing that the vaunted and feared Israeli intelligence apparatus didn't see a bunch of adversaries getting ready to do them harm on the other side of a fence...let me repeat that. A fence. One the most heavily guarded and surveilled sections of border...IN THE WORLD!!

Bibi wanted this. The man who had a hand in actually creating Hamas saw the perfect opportunity to take advantage of the situation and drive the Palestinians from the confines of what constitutes the state of Israel.

And Kirk? Just another example of his division pimping. And his complete lack of understanding of the political differences in "progressives" here..and in Israel. Just broad-brushing BS. :)
Iran and Hamas knew Biden was impaired and couldnt deal with war. So did Putin. You dont put a brin damaged idiot in the White House and think the world wont notice
 
October 7 was Pearl Harbor for Israel.

And Chernobyl for the American taxpayer trying to make ends meet as their purchasing power continues to be dwindled down.

The White House is now again seeking Congress approval to steal another six billion from us so that Israel can pay for the newest arms sale to them...

“The arms would be paid for by U.S.-provided foreign military financing, according to the documents,” WSJ details. “Israel buys most of its American-made weapons using U.S. taxpayer money that comes via billions of dollars in annual military aid.”
 
107 was a ridiculously obvious hate hoax, and Charlie Kirk immediately notice that...



CHARLIE KIRK: I've been to Israel many times, the whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe.

I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go ten feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier
. The whole country is surveilled. Let me just go through this. We don't talk about Israeli politics very often and most Americans don't know this. In the last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.

I'm not willing to go so far to say Netanyahu knew, or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand-down order? Was there a stand-down order?

Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel is the size of New Jersey, when I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it was 45 minutes. For six hours, they're live streaming the killing of Jews. Did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate non-conpiracy question.





There was no "Stand Down" because it wasn't needed. There was no 107 attack and there never were any hostages, which explains why the IDF showed no concern for hostages by carpet bombing Gaza.


Not the first time Israel has lied about this, invaded, and tried to exterminate/land grab either..



Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis—contrary to their claims—had fired first.). President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms’s tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel’s move.


because left wing Zionist Fascist Traitor LBJ had helped israel steal the weapons intended for our Army and Marines in 'nam.


THEN we got reports Zionist Fascist Israel was exterminating the residents of Gaza. We sent the USS Liberty to investigate that...



 
107 was a ridiculously obvious hate hoax, and Charlie Kirk immediately notice that...



CHARLIE KIRK: I've been to Israel many times, the whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe.

I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go ten feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier
. The whole country is surveilled. Let me just go through this. We don't talk about Israeli politics very often and most Americans don't know this. In the last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.

I'm not willing to go so far to say Netanyahu knew, or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand-down order? Was there a stand-down order?

Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel is the size of New Jersey, when I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it was 45 minutes. For six hours, they're live streaming the killing of Jews. Did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate non-conpiracy question.





There was no "Stand Down" because it wasn't needed. There was no 107 attack and there never were any hostages, which explains why the IDF showed no concern for hostages by carpet bombing Gaza.


Not the first time Israel has lied about this, invaded, and tried to exterminate/land grab either..



Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis—contrary to their claims—had fired first.). President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms’s tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel’s move.


because left wing Zionist Fascist Traitor LBJ had helped israel steal the weapons intended for our Army and Marines in 'nam.


THEN we got reports Zionist Fascist Israel was exterminating the residents of Gaza. We sent the USS Liberty to investigate that...




IMO it would be more helpful to post videos. I doubt that obvious shills like "Pastelli" who are probably getting paid per post will take the time to read several paragraphs of text.





Another clip from the same interview, very interesting... about trusting our gut:










 
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Iran and Hamas knew Biden was impaired and couldnt deal with war. So did Putin. You dont put a brin damaged idiot in the White House and think the world wont notice
Of course they took advantage of it. Don't forget also, they were emboldened, encouragement by the billions in cash Obama showered them upon his exit. They knew that Obama 2.0 will handle them with the same silk gloves.
 
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There were other failures but mainly it was "progressives" turmoil against Bibi for efforts on Judicial Reform.


There were other compounding errors, yes:



1. Netanyahu’s belief that olive branches—economic aid, work permits, and calm—would pacify Gaza.

2. A dangerous complacency among intelligence circles, who wrongly believed Hamas couldn’t pull off anything big.

3. An over-reliance on digital surveillance, instead of classic field intelligence and infiltration.



But the root failure was the internal disunity. Hamas didn’t break through Israeli fences because they were strong. They broke through because Israelis were weak—made weak by the Left’s political obsession and its willingness to burn down the house to stop reforms.
From Charlie Kirk. Quote:


"Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead".
Netanyahu set it up to keep himself in power. Liberals had nothing to do with it.
 
We know Charlie was against liberal anti-Israel jews.

So?
Bingo. The same Haaretz/b'tselem types and that small SOROS paid group cheering on the fascist "free fakestine" rioters .
 
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Charlie Kirk, Long-Time Friend of the Jewish State, Was Due To Visit Israel in January and Is Now Being Mourned at Jerusalem​

‘Israel,’ President Herzog declares, ‘has lost a true friend and huge ally.’



Who was Charlie Kirk? The pro-Israel conservative activist shot dead in Utah





Conservative influencer and Israel advocate Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah event. TOI.
"He told a crowd at a Jerusalem bar during his second trip: “I’m very pro-Israel, I’m an evangelical Christian, I’m a conservative, I’m a Trump supporter, I’m a Republican, and my whole life I have defended Israel.”"


Conservative activist Charlie Kirk speaks of ‘eye‑opening’ stint in Israel. https://www.jns.org/conservative-activist-charlie-kirk-speaks-of-eye-opening-stint-in-israel/

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Charlie Kirk ‘murdered for speaking truth, defending freedom,’ Netanyahu says.

Against ignorance, for Israel: Watch Charlie Kirk fight on the frontlines of advocacy
Charlie Kirk would stand with a microphone in front of students, allowing them to ask any question and present any claim, including on Israel. He responded with calm and simplicity.
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An Israeli street artist's moving tribute to Charlie Kirk
Immediately after the murder of Charlie Kirk, Israeli street artist Dudi Shoval set out to memorialize the defender of Israel and Judeo-Christian values in a mural in Ashdod.
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No, Israel is NOT Starving Gazans: Debunking the Latest Propaganda ...
There was an allout propaganda campaign trying to make it seem as if Israel is intentionally starving the people of Gaza..



"An earlier version of this article described incorrectly an antisemitic statement that Charlie Kirk had made on an episode of his podcast. He was quoting a statement from a post on social media and went on to critique it. It was not his own statement," the correction reads.
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Sick: Palestinians Celebrate the Death of Charlie Kirk.
As Israel mourns the loss of America’s young conservative leader, Palestinians mock and celebrate online, echoing past scenes of joy after U.S. tragedies.

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On Jew haters (Candace Owens who changed in mid-2024 into a horrific hater, etc.), Kirk:


There is a corner of the internet of people that want to point and blame the Jews for all their problems. Everybody, this is demonic and it's from the pit of hell and it should not be tolerated. Period.​

 
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Iran and Hamas knew Biden was impaired and couldnt deal with war. So did Putin. You dont put a brin damaged idiot in the White House and think the world wont notice
Yup
 
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"Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead".
Don't we do the same thing in a 'national emergency'? ~S~
 
As usual you write even what you don't actually believe, Crepitus.
 
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There were other failures but mainly it was "progressives" turmoil against Bibi for efforts on Judicial Reform.


There were other compounding errors, yes:



1. Netanyahu’s belief that olive branches—economic aid, work permits, and calm—would pacify Gaza.

2. A dangerous complacency among intelligence circles, who wrongly believed Hamas couldn’t pull off anything big.

3. An over-reliance on digital surveillance, instead of classic field intelligence and infiltration.



But the root failure was the internal disunity. Hamas didn’t break through Israeli fences because they were strong. They broke through because Israelis were weak—made weak by the Left’s political obsession and its willingness to burn down the house to stop reforms.
From Charlie Kirk. Quote:


"Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead".

Or, mostly it's Iran, which is pretty much a right wing country, funding Hamas, which is a right wing organization, fighting against Israel's right wing government.

But yeah, blame the left, you blame the left for everything anyway.
 
Bingo. The same Haaretz/b'tselem types and that small SOROS paid group cheering on the fascist "free fakestine" rioters .



So when can we all watch your treasonous ass fly a motorized paraglider?
 
We know Charlie was against liberal anti-Israel jews.

So?
And they use this to claim he was antisemitic.

I too am against liberal Jews - not because they’re Jews, but because they are so indoctrinated into liberalism that they are willing to vote in a rabid antisemitic mayor because well….he’s far-left and that matters more to them.
 
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