Zelensky still working with Obama/Biden behind the scenes.

[justoffal]

He indicated one thing and showed up with another. This was supposed to be a smooth meeting closing a deal that would place tens of thousands of American contractors on Ukrainian soil effectively giving Ukraine a protection blanket much better than a NATO membership which isn't really worth much these days frankly.

He walked into the White House already combated probably having been tuned up the day before by Susan Rice from what sources say.

He was instructed not to cooperate and to create a scene that could be used against Trump as bad publicity.

Sources say the tempers were flaring even before the TV cameras were rolling. That's interesting. Trump wants to stop throwing billions into the meat grinder for nothing.
Zalensky Doesn't want it to stop even though that's what he says. As far as the disputed territories are concerned I don't think the United States has any business in that argument. That would be like China trying to back California in secession. It just isn't any of our business.

What is our business Is the continued misuse and misappropriation of American tax money.
That has to stop no matter what it means for Ukraine.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

He indicated one thing and showed up with another. This was supposed to be a smooth meeting closing a deal that would place tens of thousands of American contractors on Ukrainian soil effectively giving Ukraine a protection blanket much better than a NATO membership which isn't really worth much these days frankly.

He walked into the White House already combated probably having been tuned up the day before by Susan Rice from what sources say.

He was instructed not to cooperate and to create a scene that could be used against Trump as bad publicity.

Sources say the tempers were flaring even before the TV cameras were rolling. That's interesting. Trump wants to stop throwing billions into the meat grinder for nothing.
Zalensky Doesn't want it to stop even though that's what he says. As far as the disputed territories are concerned I don't think the United States has any business in that argument. That would be like China trying to back California in secession. It just isn't any of our business.

What is our business Is the continued misuse and misappropriation of American tax money.
That has to stop no matter what it means for Ukraine.

Meh. me thinks Ukraine was a massive shell game specifically created to force American taxpayers to make certain Globalists parading as democrats across the Globe wealthy beyond imagination.

We need our US forces to go take that wealth back.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Zelenskyy asked for American troops.
Thats not asking for peace.
Are any of the Crazy Left Wingers willing to go to Ukraine and die for Zelenskyy?

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Biden was getting kick-backs
He loves the Ukraine war

 

[1srelluc]

Biden was getting kick-backs
He loves the Ukraine war

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They say that even addled-minded Biden got torqued at Z's total lack of gratitude.

I'm sure he forgot about it 5 minutes later.

 

[jwoodie]

So now any mention of Obama/Biden is a conspiracy theory?

 

[justoffal]

So now any mention of Obama/Biden is a conspiracy theory?

Well... There aren't any supposition forums so I figured I'd just save time.

 

[IM2]

He indicated one thing and showed up with another. This was supposed to be a smooth meeting closing a deal that would place tens of thousands of American contractors on Ukrainian soil effectively giving Ukraine a protection blanket much better than a NATO membership which isn't really worth much these days frankly.

He walked into the White House already combated probably having been tuned up the day before by Susan Rice from what sources say.

He was instructed not to cooperate and to create a scene that could be used against Trump as bad publicity.

Sources say the tempers were flaring even before the TV cameras were rolling. That's interesting. Trump wants to stop throwing billions into the meat grinder for nothing.
Zalensky Doesn't want it to stop even though that's what he says. As far as the disputed territories are concerned I don't think the United States has any business in that argument. That would be like China trying to back California in secession. It just isn't any of our business.

What is our business Is the continued misuse and misappropriation of American tax money.
That has to stop no matter what it means for Ukraine.

BS.

 

[justoffal]

BS.

Actually I am seeing news today that there was indeed a conference call....

I put this in conspiracy theories for a reason because I had no information to back it up just supposition....

Lo and behold out comes information today about a conference call with most of the former administration's foreign affairs officials and one from the Obama era too.

 

[Delldude]

Actually I am seeing news today that there was indeed a conference call....

I put this in conspiracy theories for a reason because I had no information to back it up just supposition....

Lo and behold out comes information today about a conference call with most of the former administration's foreign affairs officials and one from the Obama era too.

Article in NY Post, dems played Zelensky.

Post in thread 'Zelensky Says He Still Wants US Minerals Deal After Explosive Trump Talks. This is a BS lie.'

Mar 2, 2025

Here we go:

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal​

"Just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine,” Murphy’s office posted on X at 11:15 a.m. Friday.

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).

nypost.com

• Delldude

 

[justoffal]

Article in NY Post, dems played Zelensky.

Post in thread 'Zelensky Says He Still Wants US Minerals Deal After Explosive Trump Talks. This is a BS lie.'

Mar 2, 2025

Here we go:

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal​

"Just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine,” Murphy’s office posted on X at 11:15 a.m. Friday.

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).

nypost.com

• Delldude

Article in NY Post, dems played Zelensky.

Post in thread 'Zelensky Says He Still Wants US Minerals Deal After Explosive Trump Talks. This is a BS lie.'

Mar 2, 2025

Here we go:

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal​

"Just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine,” Murphy’s office posted on X at 11:15 a.m. Friday.

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).

nypost.com

• Delldude

Pretty sure that's jailable.

 

[Delldude]

Pretty sure that's jailable.

Murphy was caught, now claiming it's all a MAGA lie............

 

[Seymour Flops]

He indicated one thing and showed up with another. This was supposed to be a smooth meeting closing a deal that would place tens of thousands of American contractors on Ukrainian soil effectively giving Ukraine a protection blanket much better than a NATO membership which isn't really worth much these days frankly.

He walked into the White House already combated probably having been tuned up the day before by Susan Rice from what sources say.

He was instructed not to cooperate and to create a scene that could be used against Trump as bad publicity.

Sources say the tempers were flaring even before the TV cameras were rolling. That's interesting. Trump wants to stop throwing billions into the meat grinder for nothing.
Zalensky Doesn't want it to stop even though that's what he says. As far as the disputed territories are concerned I don't think the United States has any business in that argument. That would be like China trying to back California in secession. It just isn't any of our business.

What is our business Is the continued misuse and misappropriation of American tax money.
That has to stop no matter what it means for Ukraine.

I believe strongly that you are correct. I have no proof of it, other than that Zelenskyy acted exactly as Obama would have told him to act. If not Obama, Senate Democrats, or the DNC itself.

He was not their on an economic mission or peace mission. He was their to pwn Trump.

Didn't work out for him, but he followed his orders.

 

[Dragonlady]

He indicated one thing and showed up with another. This was supposed to be a smooth meeting closing a deal that would place tens of thousands of American contractors on Ukrainian soil effectively giving Ukraine a protection blanket much better than a NATO membership which isn't really worth much these days frankly.

He walked into the White House already combated probably having been tuned up the day before by Susan Rice from what sources say.

He was instructed not to cooperate and to create a scene that could be used against Trump as bad publicity.

Sources say the tempers were flaring even before the TV cameras were rolling. That's interesting. Trump wants to stop throwing billions into the meat grinder for nothing.
Zalensky Doesn't want it to stop even though that's what he says. As far as the disputed territories are concerned I don't think the United States has any business in that argument. That would be like China trying to back California in secession. It just isn't any of our business.

What is our business Is the continued misuse and misappropriation of American tax money.
That has to stop no matter what it means for Ukraine.

Dumbest, conspiracy, theory, ever!

Why would Zelenskyy work with Biden or Obama, neither of who are in government any longer, and neither of whom can do anything to assist him?

That makes absolutely no sense at all so of course you believe it.

 

[Delldude]

Dumbest, conspiracy, theory, ever!

Why would Zelenskyy work with Biden or Obama, neither of who are in government any longer, and neither of whom can do anything to assist him?

That makes absolutely no sense at all so of course you believe it.

Because they created an endless supply of cash which Trump won't do and the Dems will do everything to stop Trump.

 

[Dragonlady]

Because they created an endless supply of cash which Trump won't do and the Dems will do everything to stop Trump.

That doesn't explain why Zelensky would work with people who are completely out of power, and who have no control at all over what the USA can do for the Ukraine now. Nobody is going to waste time consulting with people who are out of power.

Dems won't do ANYTHING to stop Trump. They're just letting Trump fuck everything up, and crash the economy because you voted for it.

 

[Delldude]

Dems won't do ANYTHING to stop Trump.

I just described it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

He indicated one thing and showed up with another. This was supposed to be a smooth meeting closing a deal that would place tens of thousands of American contractors on Ukrainian soil effectively giving Ukraine a protection blanket much better than a NATO membership which isn't really worth much these days frankly.

He walked into the White House already combated probably having been tuned up the day before by Susan Rice from what sources say.

He was instructed not to cooperate and to create a scene that could be used against Trump as bad publicity.

Sources say the tempers were flaring even before the TV cameras were rolling. That's interesting. Trump wants to stop throwing billions into the meat grinder for nothing.
Zalensky Doesn't want it to stop even though that's what he says. As far as the disputed territories are concerned I don't think the United States has any business in that argument. That would be like China trying to back California in secession. It just isn't any of our business.

What is our business Is the continued misuse and misappropriation of American tax money.
That has to stop no matter what it means for Ukraine.

I wonder if we'll ever actually see: people on Epstein's list arrested or the beneficiaries of the Ukrainian money Laundering Operation

 

[Dragonlady]

I just described it.

You described NOTHING. You just made a false claim that Dems will do anything to stop Trump. What exactly have they done - and be specific?

 

[Delldude]

You described NOTHING. You just made a false claim that Dems will do anything to stop Trump. What exactly have they done - and be specific?

How about the pregame before the Oval?