Yes, American citizens are being detained by ICE

[IM2]

The lying needs to stp. Americans have been stopped and detained by ICE. Some have been deporte an at least 2 killed by ICE. They are not only going after criminals, but the right-wingers here know it. This is the Steven Miller ethnic cleansing project, and if you support this, there is only one term to use for you, and it certainly is not American or patriot.

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/01/nx-s1-5689031/minnesota-citizens-detained-ice

Why ICE Arrests U.S. Citizens (2025 Update)

Why are U.S. citizens still being arrested by ICE? October 2025 data, Chicago incidents, and step-by-step fixes to lift wrongful detainers

www.lawfirm4immigrants.com

 

[excalibur]

And? If there are Americans in the company of illegals, they should expect to be detained.

If you were in the company of someone suspected of a crime, say burglary, and that person was arrested by local law enforcement, you would likely be detained.

 

[Lisa558]

American citizens are detained all the time when they are suspected of a crime.

 

[Yarddog]

American citizens are detained all the time when they are suspected of a crime.

Yep, people are detained by cops all the time and released, but it makes no mention.
It probbaly is happening more in Wisconsin because local police are standing down, meaning ICE is forced intio the policing role.

 

[IM2]

Yep, people are detained by cops all the time and released, but it makes no mention.
It probbaly is happening more in Wisconsin because local police are standing down, meaning ICE is forced intio the policing role.

More excuses.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

American citizens are detained all the time when they are suspected of a crime.

Who are they being detained by?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

And? If there are Americans in the company of illegals, they should expect to be detained.

If you were in the company of someone suspected of a crime, say burglary, and that person was arrested by local law enforcement, you would likely be detained.

• Being in the company of undocumented individuals is not a crime.
• Association alone is not enough for detention under either the First or Fourth Amendments.
• Police must have individualized reasonable suspicion or probable cause to justify detaining anyone, including U.S. citizens.
• Detaining someone solely due to proximity to “illegals” is not consistent with the Constitution — and the courts have been clear about that.

Relevant Supreme Court Cases:

A search warrant for a bar and its bartender did not justify searching a patron who happened to be there. The Court held that "a person’s mere propinquity to others independently suspected of criminal activity does not, without more, give rise to probable cause to search that person."

A person found in a car with a suspected criminal cannot automatically be arrested or searched just because of their association or proximity.

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Regarding Vehicles Specifically​

If you're a passenger in a car with undocumented individuals, that alone is not grounds for your detention or questioning unless there is reasonable suspicion that you yourself are violating the law.

• Courts have said that passengers in a car cannot be detained longer than necessary unless additional suspicion arises specific to them.
• ICE and immigration enforcement complicates this somewhat — but constitutional protections still apply to U.S. citizens in immigration contexts.

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Summary​

• Being in the company of undocumented individuals is not a crime.
• Association alone is not enough for detention under either the First or Fourth Amendments.
• Police must have individualized reasonable suspicion or probable cause to justify detaining anyone, including U.S. citizens.
• Detaining someone solely due to proximity to “illegals” is not consistent with the Constitution — and the courts have been clear about that.

It’s misleading to suggest that Americans “should expect to be detained” simply for being in the presence of undocumented immigrants. That’s not how due process or lawful enforcement works in a constitutional republic.

 

[Harry Dresden]

More excuses.

they are just following your lead chump.....excuses...

 

[Lisa558]

Who are they being detained by?

Law enforcement.

 

[Lisa558]

• Being in the company of undocumented individuals is not a crime.
• Association alone is not enough for detention under either the First or Fourth Amendments.
• Police must have individualized reasonable suspicion or probable cause to justify detaining anyone, including U.S. citizens.
• Detaining someone solely due to proximity to “illegals” is not consistent with the Constitution — and the courts have been clear about that.

Relevant Supreme Court Cases:

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Regarding Vehicles Specifically​

If you're a passenger in a car with undocumented individuals, that alone is not grounds for your detention or questioning unless there is reasonable suspicion that you yourself are violating the law.

• Courts have said that passengers in a car cannot be detained longer than necessary unless additional suspicion arises specific to them.
• ICE and immigration enforcement complicates this somewhat — but constitutional protections still apply to U.S. citizens in immigration contexts.

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Summary​

• Being in the company of undocumented individuals is not a crime.
• Association alone is not enough for detention under either the First or Fourth Amendments.
• Police must have individualized reasonable suspicion or probable cause to justify detaining anyone, including U.S. citizens.
• Detaining someone solely due to proximity to “illegals” is not consistent with the Constitution — and the courts have been clear about that.

It’s misleading to suggest that Americans “should expect to be detained” simply for being in the presence of undocumented immigrants. That’s not how due process or lawful enforcement works in a constitutional republic.

If I am standing among a group of car hijackers, I get swooped up with the lot of them until law enforcement can determine who is guilty and who is not.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The lying needs to stp. Americans have been stopped and detained by ICE. Some have been deporte an at least 2 killed by ICE. They are not only going after criminals, but the right-wingers here know it. This is the Steven Miller ethnic cleansing project, and if you support this, there is only one term to use for you, and it certainly is not American or patriot.

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/01/nx-s1-5689031/minnesota-citizens-detained-ice

Why ICE Arrests U.S. Citizens (2025 Update)

Why are U.S. citizens still being arrested by ICE? October 2025 data, Chicago incidents, and step-by-step fixes to lift wrongful detainers

www.lawfirm4immigrants.com

Trump biggest mistake was in not detaining all the .gov bad actors facilitating the Invasion

That would have solved the problem once and for all

 

[excalibur]

• Being in the company of undocumented individuals is not a crime.
  /QUOTE]
  
  
  No one said it was a crime.
  
  Being detained is a perfectly normal matter however if you are in the company of illegals or anyone subject to arrest.

 

[excalibur]

• 
  
  Being in the company of undocumented individuals is not a crime.
  

• 
  
  
  No one said it was a crime.
  
  Being detained is a perfectly normal matter, however if you are in the company of illegals or anyone subject to arrest.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Law enforcement.

Which law enforcement agency?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

• 
  
  
  No one said it was a crime.
  
  Being detained is a perfectly normal matter, however if you are in the company of illegals or anyone subject to arrest.

Let me guess, either you didn't read the case law I cited or you didn't understand it?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

• No one said it was a crime.
  
  Being detained is a perfectly normal matter, however if you are in the company of illegals or anyone subject to arrest.

Law enforcement cannot simply stop you just because they want to. They have to have probable cause to detain you or reasonable suspicion for arrest, that you are involved in criminal activity.

You just said above that "no one said 'it' was a crime" yet without a crime or at least reasonable suspicion of one, then there is no legal basis for a detention. This is what we're trying to get you all to understand.

And what someone else is (alien unlawfully present) or is doing (avoiding or evading ICE) is not automatically transferable to others in the vicinity.

If I am standing among a group of car hijackers, I get swooped up with the lot of them until law enforcement can determine who is guilty and who is not.

Lisa if you’re literally standing in the act of a felony—like a carjacking in progress—then yes, you’d be lawfully detained along with the suspects until police sort it out. That’s not controversial; that’s called probable cause based on criminal conduct observed in real time.

But that is not the scenario under discussion.

Undocumented presence is a civil infraction, not a violent felony. And merely being in the company of someone who may be out of status does not establish probable cause or reasonable suspicion of a crime. That’s the entire point.

You’re trying to equate a violent group offense with simply standing next to someone whose immigration paperwork might not be in order.

Fourth Amendment protections don’t get suspended just because you find someone’s presence inconvenient. If law enforcement has individualized [reasonable] suspicion that you are involved in criminal activity, they can stop or detain you. Otherwise, no—they can’t just 'swoop you up with the lot of them.’ That’s not law enforcement; that’s dragnet policing, and it’s unconstitutional.

 

[IM2]

Which law enforcement agency?

She doesn't know.

 

[IM2]

Let me guess, either you didn't read the case law I cited or you didn't understand it?

Both.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

She doesn't know.

Because they're all the "Po-Po" to them. They have no ability or regard to discern the differences between ERO agents (enforcement and removal operations) and actual law enforcement agents.

ERO agents derive their authority from federal immigration law, primarily the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), codified at:

• 8 U.S.C. § 1357 – Powers of immigration officers and employees, which authorizes them to:
  • Interrogate, arrest, and detain non-citizens (aliens) without a warrant under certain conditions.
  • Execute warrants and conduct searches as provided under the INA.

This authority is civil in nature, not criminal, meaning ERO (Enforcement and Removal Operations) agents are enforcing administrative immigration law, not state or federal criminal statutes unless part of a joint task force. Their powers derive from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), under which ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) operates.

By contrast, non-ERO law enforcement agents—such as local police officers, sheriff’s deputies, or state troopers—derive their authority from state constitutions and statutes. For example:

• Washington State (as one example of state law enforcement authority):
  • RCW 10.93.070 – Defines general authority law enforcement officers (e.g., city police, county deputies).
  • RCW 10.93.020(1) – These officers are commissioned to enforce criminal laws within a specific territorial jurisdiction.

On the federal side, criminal investigative powers of federal law enforcement officers—such as the FBI, DEA, ATF, etc.—are governed by:

• 18 U.S.C. § 3052 – FBI agents’ authority to make arrests and carry firearms.
• 21 U.S.C. § 878 – Powers of enforcement personnel under the Controlled Substances Act (for DEA agents).
• 18 U.S.C. § 3109 – "Knock and announce" rule for federal law enforcement executing a warrant.

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Key Distinction:
ERO agents may look like law enforcement officers—badges, guns, vests, marked vehicles—but their powers are rooted in civil administrative law, not the criminal code. This means:

• They can detain someone for suspected immigration violations (a civil offense),
• But not for general criminal activity unless duly cross-designated or working with a criminal investigative unit.

 

[el midgetron]

Would someone please get those ******* back on the Democrats plantation?