Wonder how accurate this is

[eagle7-31]

Apparently according to this video Tito was feared by Stalin even more than Hitler.

 

[Donald H]

Uncle Joe led his army to victory over fascism.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Uncle Joe led his army to victory over fascism.

Only with tons and tons of material and equipment from the US and Britain. With out that the Soviets would have been pushed back behind the Ural Mountains.

 

[1srelluc]

Can't say but Stalin gave Tito a lot of space post-war. Perhaps he figured Tito had a big enough job keeping that herd of cats together.

 

[Donald H]

Only with tons and tons of material and equipment from the US and Britain. With out that the Soviets would have been pushed back behind the Ural Mountains.

Yes, that can be said to be the extent of the US contribution.

And now its apparent that Russia has claimed that ability too, as well as the 'tons' being of superior quality.

 

[Donald H]

Just a word of thinks to those who have finally given up on arguing with me on the obvious!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Just a word of thinks to those who have finally given up on arguing with me on the obvious!

LOL you are a retard and have no valid arguments we ignore your idiotic statement for the most part.

 

[Deadstick]

Only with tons and tons of material and equipment from the US and Britain. With out that the Soviets would have been pushed back behind the Ural Mountains.

Yes we know the US won WW2 and the Soviets didn't do much.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes we know the US won WW2 and the Soviets didn't do much.

I didn't say that retard. The Soviets fought the Germans to a standstill and then went on the offensive pushing all the way to Berlin. But they couldn't have done it without US material food and supplies. The Germans would have rolled up the support and pretending otherwise is as stupid as saying the Soviets won World War 2 and the allies just helped.

 

[Deadstick]

I didn't say that retard. The Soviets fought the Germans to a standstill and then went on the offensive pushing all the way to Berlin. But they couldn't have done it without US material food and supplies. The Germans would have rolled up the support and pretending otherwise is as stupid as saying the Soviets won World War 2 and the allies just helped.

But like some others you keep repeating the bullshit the Nazis would have rolled over the Soviet Union without US supplies, that is not a fact it's an opinion, have you any idea how big the Soviet Union is?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

But like some others you keep repeating the bullshit the Nazis would have rolled over the Soviet Union without US supplies, that is not a fact it's an opinion, have you any idea how big the Soviet Union is?

they had no comm wire, they had no trucks or jeeps they needed more rail cars and locomotives. They were critically short on food. they needed tanks and planes to make up the losses they suffered. And the list goes on. pick up a history book some time and try reading it for comprehension. With out US aid the Soviets would have been unable to hold the line in 42 so that they could go on the offensive in late 42 and 43. Stalingrad wouldn't have happened. Moscow would have fallen. No offensive means in 43 instead of fighting off Soviet Offensives and retreating the Germans would have been advancing deeper into the Soviet Union.

 

[Deadstick]

they had no comm wire, they had no trucks or jeeps they needed more rail cars and locomotives. They were critically short on food. they needed tanks and planes to make up the losses they suffered. And the list goes on. pick up a history book some time and try reading it for comprehension. With out US aid the Soviets would have been unable to hold the line in 42 so that they could go on the offensive in late 42 and 43. Stalingrad wouldn't have happened. Moscow would have fallen. No offensive means in 43 instead of fighting off Soviet Offensives and retreating the Germans would have been advancing deeper into the Soviet Union.

The fact is Gunny we will never really know what would have happened, sure the US help made a difference a but whether the Soviet army would have collapsed without it is pure speculation, we also had the Arctic convoy's sailing from the UK to Murmansk with vital supplies, i met two of those veterans, but the British establishment are so petty minded it took them decades to finally consent to issuing a Medal recognizing their bravery because they decided the Russians were the new enemy.

WWII Arctic Convoy Veterans To Get Medals

The move caps a long battle for recognition for the seamen who embarked on a perilous trip to keep supply lines to Russia open.

news.sky.com