Woman lights cigarette in mini-van, propane tank explodes, shaking homes in Virginia

[1srelluc]

It happened in Burke, Virginia....NOtVA leftist central.

She lived!



Darwin foiled!

 

[fncceo]

I would need a judges ruling on that one.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not very likely.

For a propane tank to explode is an extremely rare thing. It typically only happens when external fire surrounding the tank causes pressure to build beyond the capacity of the pressure relief plug to reduce internal pressure.

That car was clearly not engulfed in flames.

A punctured tank can release gas with enough force to send the tank flying and if the released gas is ignited by a spark or other flame it can spurt flame out of the hole like a flame thrower until gas is extinguished ... but to explode in the absence of incredible heat is highly improbable.

That van looks like it was rolled a few times, but not damaged by a massive explosion.

 

[Zincwarrior]

OOps

 

[1srelluc]

I would need a judges ruling on that one.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not very likely.

For a propane tank to explode is an extremely rare thing. It typically only happens when external fire surrounding the tank causes pressure to build beyond the capacity of the pressure relief plug to reduce internal pressure.

That car was clearly not engulfed in flames.

A punctured tank can release gas with enough force to send the tank flying and if the released gas is ignited by a spark or other flame it can spurt flame out of the hole like a flame thrower until gas is extinguished ... but to explode in the absence of incredible heat is highly improbable.

That van looks like it was rolled a few times, but not damaged by a massive explosion.

Shits on fire yo.

 

[fncceo]

I've attended more than a few car fires and once they start burning, they rarely stop until there's nothing flammable left in the car, seats burned down to springs, carpets, headliners, and anything fabric or plastic is gone and burned away or melted to goo. Even the bodies inside are pretty decimated by the time it's put out.

From that angle, there is definitely fire, but it must have been put out pretty quickly.

A leaking propane tank might have built up a gas pocket that ignited by a cigarette, and that would have created a ball of flame that exploded. But, I wonder how someone sitting a car filling with propane didn't smell it as all commercially available propane is treated with ethyl mercaptan (that smells like rotten eggs).

 

[1srelluc]

I've attended more than a few car fires and once they start burning, they rarely stop until there's nothing flammable left in the car, seats burned down to springs, carpets, headliners, and anything fabric or plastic is gone and burned away or melted to goo. Even the bodies inside are pretty decimated by the time it's put out.

From that angle, there is definitely fire, but it must have been put out pretty quickly.

A leaking propane tank might have built up a gas pocket that ignited by a cigarette, and that would have created a ball of flame that exploded. But, I wonder how someone sitting a car filling with propane didn't smell it as all commercially available propane is treated with ethyl mercaptan (that smells like rotten eggs).

You can clearly see how it was blown outwards.....Something inside went Kaboom!

Maybe that why the Fairfax Co. PD assigned a crime investigator to the incident.

LOL....Maybe it was a SIG 320 next to the propane tank.

 

[fncceo]

I don’t mean to question the official report but having worked in a newsroom for a while (Bloomberg Tokyo and New York), I can testify that most reporters don’t know their arse from a hot rock and will believe anything they are told.

It has made me skeptical of any fantastic yarn that come out of the news.

 

[toobfreak]

I would need a judges ruling on that one.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not very likely.

For a propane tank to explode is an extremely rare thing. It typically only happens when external fire surrounding the tank causes pressure to build beyond the capacity of the pressure relief plug to reduce internal pressure.

That car was clearly not engulfed in flames.

A punctured tank can release gas with enough force to send the tank flying and if the released gas is ignited by a spark or other flame it can spurt flame out of the hole like a flame thrower until gas is extinguished ... but to explode in the absence of incredible heat is highly improbable.

That van looks like it was rolled a few times, but not damaged by a massive explosion.

I see no evidence of a fire. What is amazing is that there could be that much an accumulation of propane and she not even smell anything unusual. She must have had her windows closed and lowered the lit cigarette down into the zone where the gas lay.

That does not look like a tank blew, it looks like an accumulation of a gas pocket near the floor ignited into one explosive detonation.

 

[1srelluc]

I see no evidence of a fire. What is amazing is that there could be that much an accumulation of propane and she not even smell anything unusual. She must have had her windows closed and lowered the lit cigarette down into the zone where the gas lay.

That does not look like a tank blew, it looks like an accumulation of a gas pocket near the floor ignited into one explosive detonation.

Pay attention.

 

[toobfreak]

Pay attention.

I am. I didn't say nothing burned, just that the car was not destroyed in an incineration of flames, other than along that one back edge of the rear door you showed.

I see no evidence of any fire here in the car proper, lots of unburned fabrics visible here.

Here is a clean door panel, no signs of smoke damage, heat, charring or anything burnt.

Here are clean fabrics from the overhead. Not a singe of fire to be seen anywhere.

Propane burns very hot, clean and fast, in the open like that more like an explosion than a fire, and the woman walked away on her own, no suggestion she was caught in any kind of sustained fire.

 

[1srelluc]

Some wonder how could she not have smelled those fumes and I have it on good authority that those acclimated to the smell of cat piss might miss it and you add to that the olfactory senses of a heavy smoker are significantly diminished.

 

[1srelluc]

From an ARF member:

I saw a thread on expedition portal awhile ago where somebody accidentally left a propane valve cracked open in their fj cruiser. Somehow the propane filled the spaces inside the bodywork and ignited when the owner opened a door and the dome light turned on. It burst every body panel like a banana getting peeled back.

 

[toobfreak]

Some wonder how could she not have smelled those fumes and I have it on good authority that those acclimated to the smell of cat piss might miss it and you add to that the olfactory senses of a heavy smoker are significantly diminished.

Well, propane stinks deliberately to get your attention, but it is a heavy gas too so if the tank slowly leaked inside a locked car, it might have all settled on her floorboards then she ignited it with her cig in the ashtray which is usually low on the dashboard.

The gas exploded, pushing the air pocket above it outward, which is what blew the roof and doors off. Disadvantage: SUV for having the cargo space the same as the passenger space.

 

[Chuz Life]

I would need a judges ruling on that one.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not very likely.

For a propane tank to explode is an extremely rare thing. It typically only happens when external fire surrounding the tank causes pressure to build beyond the capacity of the pressure relief plug to reduce internal pressure.

That car was clearly not engulfed in flames.

A punctured tank can release gas with enough force to send the tank flying and if the released gas is ignited by a spark or other flame it can spurt flame out of the hole like a flame thrower until gas is extinguished ... but to explode in the absence of incredible heat is highly improbable.

That van looks like it was rolled a few times, but not damaged by a massive explosion.

If the tank was the same one it shows in the video, it didn't explode.

It just filled the SUV with gas, and the SUV exploded instead. (That would also explain fewer flames.)

The fact that she either didn't smell it first is suspicious.

It should be investigated.

I won't be surprised if there isn't more to the story on this one.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

I have a cousin who hasn't smoked in seventeen years now. If he can quit, anyone can.

God bless you and him always!!!

Holly

P.S. That Chantix stuff is what helped him give it all up.