Will Unions tank Harris and Walz if they don't "pony up?"

[bendog]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/17/labor-strikes-harris-election-boeing-00179486

Trump talks unions, but his personal life is filled with cheating workers and hiring illegals. (Personally, an admission here, I'd rather NOT have another Biden approach to labor, and it actually makes me smile when union guys vote for people who fuck them .... because I don't like unions.)

But Trump's misogyny racism and willingness to hurt other people simply cause its convenient for him .... I'll take unions over that.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

If Unions are smart, they will DUMP Kamala and Gay Boy WALZ today!

 

[sealybobo]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/17/labor-strikes-harris-election-boeing-00179486

Trump talks unions, but his personal life is filled with cheating workers and hiring illegals. (Personally, an admission here, I'd rather NOT have another Biden approach to labor, and it actually makes me smile when union guys vote for people who fuck them .... because I don't like unions.)

But Trump's misogyny racism and willingness to hurt other people simply cause its convenient for him .... I'll take unions over that.

Didn't union workers hear Elon and Trump talk about firing workers who go on strike?

thousands of jobs that sprang indirectly from President Joe Biden’s investments in infrastructure and his commitment to using union labor.

Landrieu stopped short of an explicit call to vote for Harris. But he emphasized the White House’s commitment to union labor, recalling how whenever “the word ‘jobs’ was mentioned” in meetings with Harris and Biden, they would insist on not just jobs but “high-paying union jobs.”

But amid the din of chatter following Landrieu’s remarks, one union member got up from his table and chanted in a singsong tone, “Fuck Joe Biden!”
No one joined in. Before walking off, the worker muttered, “I don’t believe any of this bullshit.”
That outburst, however modest, illustrates the frustrating quandary facing many Democrats this election cycle: Despite all that Harris and Biden have done for unions ― tapping pro-union government officials, boosting legislation that grew union jobs ― a national Pew Research poll shows Harris on track to best former President Donald Trump among union members by just seven percentage points. That’s a worryingly low margin for the Democratic nominee among a traditionally Democratic constituency.

Voters without a college degree, whose exodus toward the Republican Party accelerated under Trump, are still more likely to vote for Democrats if they belong to a union. Biden, a native of blue-collar Scranton, Pennsylvania, won in 2020 thanks in part to an improvement in his performance with union members relative to 2016 candidate Hillary Clinton.

A defeat for Harris could in turn both jeopardize the gains that the labor movement has accrued in the past four years and plunge the Democratic Party into an identity crisis about its ability to win over working-class voters altogether. Biden’s pivot toward aggressively supporting organized labor, which marked a break with a business-friendly shift in the party that had held sway since Bill Clinton’s nomination, was born out of sincere policy convictions, but also of a theory that Democrats could undermine Trump’s appeal by championing workers’ rights.

Harris Is Struggling With Blue-Collar Union Members. This Union Is Doing All It Can To Change That.

A win for Donald Trump would jeopardize organized labor's gains — and its ascendant place in the Democratic Party.

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[DonGlock26]

Democrats and Rinos are globalists, and love illegals driving down American wages.
Globalism and migrants are the real threat to unions and American workers. If the US hadn't sent so much manufacturing overseas, strikes would have real meaning.

Democrat voters forget that Hillary was on the board of Walmart, when they began to flood the US market with cheap Chinses goods made with nearly slave labor.

From 1986 until 1992,[1] Clinton served on the corporate board of directors of Wal-Mart, an Arkansas-based company that was also a client of Rose Law, where Clinton was a partner.[2][3] Wal-Mart was the largest discount retail chain in the United States.[4]

Clinton was the first female member on Wal-Mart's board, added following pressure on chairman Sam Walton to name a woman to it.[3] The board's size was expanded in order to accommodate Clinton's addition to it.[5]

On the board, Clinton pushed successfully for Wal-Mart to adopt more environmentally friendly practices. Clinton also pushed the company to avoid discrimination against minorities and women. She was largely unsuccessful in her campaign for more women to be added to the company's management and was silent about the company's famously anti-labor union practices.[1][3][5][6] According to Dan Kaufman, awareness of her silence on the company's anti-union practices later was a factor in her loss of credibility with organized labor, contributing to her later loss in the 2016 United States presidential election, in which slightly under half of union members voted for her Republican opponent, Donald Trump.[7][8]

In 1991, Clinton reported earning $60,700 from her position on the board, more than a quarter of her and her husband's $235,000 in income reported that year.[4]

Hillary Clinton's career in corporate governance - Wikipedia

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[sealybobo]

Democrats and Rinos are globalists, and love illegals driving down American wages.
Globalism and migrants are the real threat to unions and American workers. If the US hadn't sent so much manufacturing overseas, strikes would have real meaning.

Democrat voters forget that Hillary was on the board of Walmart, when they began to flood the US market with cheap Chinses goods made with nearly slave labor.

It's true that Republicans used to love the cheap labor. Illegal employers were born starting with Reagan.

Do you know who has always warned about illegal workers? Unions. Reagan also was the beginning of the end for unions too. Both of these things really picked up steam on Bush's watch. So you aren't 100% wrong

"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of Karl Rove's most potent Republican Party frames.

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