Will The State Of Oregon Be Shrinking In Size?

[jackflash]

Governor Kotek & her administration in Salem Oregon are facing some serious opposition. With Idaho looking forwards to moving the Idaho/Oregon border west to add 11/13 current Oregon counties to be part of their "Greater Idaho" project, the prospect of this happening has never looked more promising! Eastern Oregonians sure would be appreciative if the Trump administration gave them @ least some verbal support regarding their efforts to become Idahoans. Gotta get our fellow eastern Oregon farmers out from under the heavy yoke of the Salem Oregon gang.

Recall Effort Against Governor Tina Kotek Accelerates Across Oregon

The campaign to recall Oregon Governor Tina Kotek is gaining rapid traction statewide, according to organizers who report a surge in voter participation and

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[Concerned American]

Governor Kotek & her administration in Salem Oregon are facing some serious opposition. With Idaho looking forwards to moving the Idaho/Oregon border west to add 11/13 current Oregon counties to be part of their "Greater Idaho" project, the prospect of this happening has never looked more promising! Eastern Oregonians sure would be appreciative if the Trump administration gave them @ least some verbal support regarding their efforts to become Idahoans. Gotta get our fellow eastern Oregon farmers out from under the heavy yoke of the Salem Oregon gang.

Recall Effort Against Governor Tina Kotek Accelerates Across Oregon

The campaign to recall Oregon Governor Tina Kotek is gaining rapid traction statewide, according to organizers who report a surge in voter participation and

www.grantspasstribune.com

Now if we could only get eastern WA to join Greater ID as well.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

If it gets cold enough.

 

[wamose]

It seems like our big cities are losing their sanity and becoming uncontrollable. How can you blame hard working rural Americans from wanting to decouple from these dangerous, lazy bastards.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Governor Kotek & her administration in Salem Oregon are facing some serious opposition. With Idaho looking forwards to moving the Idaho/Oregon border west to add 11/13 current Oregon counties to be part of their "Greater Idaho" project, the prospect of this happening has never looked more promising! Eastern Oregonians sure would be appreciative if the Trump administration gave them @ least some verbal support regarding their efforts to become Idahoans. Gotta get our fellow eastern Oregon farmers out from under the heavy yoke of the Salem Oregon gang.

Recall Effort Against Governor Tina Kotek Accelerates Across Oregon

The campaign to recall Oregon Governor Tina Kotek is gaining rapid traction statewide, according to organizers who report a surge in voter participation and

www.grantspasstribune.com

I dont believe there is any legal avenue for succession in the constitution.

However looking at the map, if they did, It would be comical. Oregon would probably be as small as Rhode island.

 

[Concerned American]

I dont believe there is any legal avenue for succession in the constitution.

Yeah, there is. There also are legal avenues for secession.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Yeah, there is. There also are legal avenues for secession.

I dont see a provision for it in the cotus, but maybe I missed it.

Can a State Constitutionally Secede? – AHA

This is one of the questions of the day, and it appears to be no longer a mere abstract or theoretical question. The Constitution makes no provision for secession. A Government is not a corporation whose existence is limited by a fixed period of time, nor does it provide a…

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Maybe through the amendment process, but as it stands right now, I know of know constitutional measure to allow it.

 

[braalian]

I dont believe there is any legal avenue for succession in the constitution.

However looking at the map, if they did, It would be comical. Oregon would probably be as small as Rhode island.

Look again

Geography not your strong suit?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Look again

Geography not your strong suit?

Look at what?

 

[braalian]

Look at what?

The proposed map in the OP

What’s left of Oregon would obviously be way bigger than rhode island

 

[Concerned American]

I dont see a provision for it in the cotus, but maybe I missed it.

Can a State Constitutionally Secede? – AHA

This is one of the questions of the day, and it appears to be no longer a mere abstract or theoretical question. The Constitution makes no provision for secession. A Government is not a corporation whose existence is limited by a fixed period of time, nor does it provide a…

www.historians.org

Maybe through the amendment process, but as it stands right now, I know of know constitutional measure to allow it.

I did not say that secession was in the constitution--I stated that there are legal avenues. I DID say that 'succession' as in 'presidential succession' is addressed in the constitution. I believe that is what you wrote in your post #5. Words have meanings.

 

[1srelluc]

I'd be tickled to death to give NOtVA to MD.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The proposed map in the OP

What’s left of Oregon would obviously be way bigger than rhode island

Tongue in cheek.....

 

[ThisIsMe]

I did not say that secession was in the constitution--I stated that there are legal avenues. I DID say that 'succession' as in 'presidential succession' is addressed in the constitution. I believe that is what you wrote in your post #5. Words have meanings.

What legal avenue is there?

 

[Concerned American]

What legal avenue is there?

In a nutshell--

To secede a portion of a state and create a new state, the U.S. Constitution requires the consent of the state legislature and Congress. Historically, successful examples include Kentucky from Virginia, Maine from Massachusetts, and West Virginia from Virginia, all of which followed this legal process. Wikipedia California State Portal

More specifically,

Overview of State Secession Process​

Secession refers to the process by which a portion of a state seeks to withdraw and form a new state or join another state. This process is complex and involves legal, political, and constitutional considerations.

Legal Framework​

U.S. Constitution​

• The U.S. Constitution does not explicitly provide a mechanism for a state to secede.
• Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1, known as the New States Clause, allows Congress to admit new states but requires the consent of the state legislatures involved.

Supreme Court Rulings​

• The Supreme Court case Texas v. White (1869) ruled that unilateral secession is unconstitutional. It stated that states cannot withdraw from the Union without the consent of Congress.

Historical Examples of Secession​

Successful Secessions​

• Kentucky from Virginia (1792)
• Maine from Massachusetts (1820)
• West Virginia from Virginia (1863)

These instances required legislative approval from both the parent state and Congress.

Modern Proposals​

• Recent movements in states like California and Colorado have sought to create new states or regions. These proposals often arise from local grievances and require significant political support and legal processes to advance.

Steps for Secession​

1. Local Support: A movement typically begins with local advocacy and public support.
2. Legislative Approval: The state legislature must approve the proposal for secession or partition.
3. Congressional Approval: After state approval, Congress must also consent to the creation of a new state.
4. Referendum: In some cases, a public vote may be held to gauge support for the secession.
5. Legal Challenges: The process may face legal challenges, requiring court rulings to clarify constitutional issues.

This process illustrates the significant hurdles and complexities involved in the secession of portions of states within the United States.
Wikipedia ebsco.com

 

[Independent thinker]

Governor Kotek & her administration in Salem Oregon are facing some serious opposition. With Idaho looking forwards to moving the Idaho/Oregon border west to add 11/13 current Oregon counties to be part of their "Greater Idaho" project, the prospect of this happening has never looked more promising! Eastern Oregonians sure would be appreciative if the Trump administration gave them @ least some verbal support regarding their efforts to become Idahoans. Gotta get our fellow eastern Oregon farmers out from under the heavy yoke of the Salem Oregon gang.

Recall Effort Against Governor Tina Kotek Accelerates Across Oregon

The campaign to recall Oregon Governor Tina Kotek is gaining rapid traction statewide, according to organizers who report a surge in voter participation and

www.grantspasstribune.com

I've seen this before. Probably not going to happen but many Oregonians are anxious to get the hell out of Dodge.

 

[Concerned American]

I've seen this before. Probably not going to happen but many Oregonians are anxious to get the hell out of Dodge.

Yeah, slightly better than a snowball's chances in hell, but you have to try. N. CA and S. OR have wanted a state of Jefferson for nearly a hundred years. E. WA was all about the state of Liberty just a few years ago and now E. OR wanting to join ID---I would love to see a coalition between E. WA and E. OR to join ID. I think there is a better chance of that than creating a new state---AND it alleviates the problems associated with setting up a new state government, taxation, constitution, infrastructure, education etc. They could fall under existing policies and laws in ID. But you're right, probably no more than a pipe dream.

 

[Blaster]

The Oregon Governor is a dyke.

 

[jackflash]

Now if we could only get eastern WA to join Greater ID as well.

U got that right. If eastern Oregon escapes the ultra corrupt Salem gang we eastern Washingtonians need to follow suit. That phony Idaho Washington/Idaho Oregon border is the biggest farce going in our western states. I mean check out the N/S street named State St. that separates Old Town from Newport, that is also part of the border that separates Washington from Idaho. Can U say "phony BORDER"?

Your county flag represented, & still does represent our entire eastern Washington movement to be independent from the super corrupt Opimpia gang. "IF" the Greater Idaho project moves closer to fruition we eastern Washingtonians need to follow suit. A much more AFFORDABLE & relaxed/enjoyable lifestyle awaits us eastern Washingtonians when we become part of Greater Idaho.

We desperately need quality leadership in eastern Washington that will work hand in hand with our fellow eastern Oregonian farmers & small town folks. A COALITION between eastern Oregonians & eastern Washington could/would strengthen our hand as Idaho Governor Brad Little would no doubt take a KEEN interest in adding eastern Washington counties to the mix! My son specializes in CONTRACT LAW which COULD/MAY pay off in a reduced legal services if/when needed. Colville in my opinion would be better suited for the "HUB" as Spokane is just not right in my opinion. What is your opinion on my idea?

 

[WelfareQueen]

I dont believe there is any legal avenue for succession in the constitution.

However looking at the map, if they did, It would be comical. Oregon would probably be as small as Rhode island.

It is not succession. Eastern Oregon would still be in the Union.