Will The Democrats Finally Admit They Are a Socialist Party?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Obamacare is the government dictating to insurance companies whom they must cover and under what terms. That is dead-cold socialism.

no only do they dictate to insurance companies but to hospitals and doctors too!.
Its fascism more than socialism I'd say or perhaps crony socialism. Whatever it is, its not American.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Obamacare uses private insurance companies. Single payer would be Socialized Medicine.

too stupid of course, when the govt is in complete control its socialism or fascism, and not American

 

[NYcarbineer]

Oh, btw, in reality, the biggest socialist institution in the US is the military.

100% stupid of course since the military is not thought of as an industry. socialism is when the liberal govt owns and manages an industries. Do you understand?

The military is a service industry. Because it is run by the government and utilizes government employees, it is a socialist institution. Like the post office. Like a public school.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's kind of hard to get offended by the label anymore when you've got thousands of enthusiastic Democrats lining up to hear Bernie Sanders' populist Scandinavian style welfare state plan for our nation. The man is, after all, the only self admitted Socialist elected to the U.S. Senate and he is edging closer and closer to toppling Hillary each day.

And when he had to choose a party to run for President in, he sure as hell didn't think his socialism would appeal to Republicans. It's pretty telling that he thought Democrats would agree with him.

 

[Cecilie1200]

When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.

And now you're going to explain that assertion, right?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Oh, btw, in reality, the biggest socialist institution in the US is the military.

100% stupid of course since the military is not thought of as an industry. socialism is when the liberal govt owns and manages an industries. Do you understand?

So healthcare is not an industry, therefore there's no such thing as socialized medicine?

lol

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Oh, btw, in reality, the biggest socialist institution in the US is the military.

100% stupid of course since the military is not thought of as an industry. socialism is when the liberal govt owns and manages an industries. Do you understand?

The military is a service industry. Because it is run by the government and utilizes government employees, it is a socialist institution. Like the post office. Like a public school.

dear, I'm sure liberals and conservatives believe in having a military. And??????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So healthcare is not an industry,

why on earth would you say that?? Do you have any idea??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.

dear, we and China have mixed economies with elements of socialism and capitalism. The more capitalism the better the economy performs. When China just switched toward capitalism they instantly eliminated 40% of the entire world' poverty.

Do you understand?

 

[NYcarbineer]

When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.

And now you're going to explain that assertion, right?

Everything that is accomplished by government run entities, with government employees, is socialism.

You also have entities like credit unions and co-ops that fall under a broader definition of socialism.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So healthcare is not an industry,

why on earth would you say that?? Do you have any idea??

Because you claimed that the military is not an industry. The military provides defense and security as a service. That puts it the service industry.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.

dear, we and China have mixed economies with elements of socialism and capitalism. The more capitalism the better the economy performs. When China just switched toward capitalism they instantly eliminated 40% of the entire world' poverty.

Do you understand?

Why do non-profit credit unions perform better than for-profit banks?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. So let each have their own.

liberalism is based on bigotry and violence toward others. If you don't want to pay for crippling welfare they define you as morally inferior and send men with guns to make you pay.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Did someone finally figure out what socialism is or do we still define it as something, bad or good? By this time the old bugaboo that socialism leads to communism should be dead and buried so any new definitions?

Highgate Cemetery

Go take it up with Karl Marx. It was HIS idea.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

Social Security is a federal insurance program and fire departments are funded from property taxes. That is not pure socialism.

Leftists have a hard time telling the difference between appropriate government functions and socialism. They're very "all or nothing" in their views.

 

[Cecilie1200]

In technical terms, Sanders is not a "socialist", no matter what he calls himself - he's a Social Democrat.

So you're saying he's also redundant?

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Republicans have the Tea Party and the Democrats have the social democrats, and most of us are somewhere in between the two.

The question to me is whether the conservatives will either figure out or admit that the goal is Sweden & Germany, not Cuba & Venezuela.

The conservatives are fighting something that doesn't exist right now, and it's helping the social democrats big time.

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I don't really give a **** where you're TRYING to go. My concern is where you're GOING to go. Furthermore, the time to fight something is BEFORE it becomes an accomplished fact, not after it already is.

Duh.

 

[Mac1958]

The Republicans have the Tea Party and the Democrats have the social democrats, and most of us are somewhere in between the two.

The question to me is whether the conservatives will either figure out or admit that the goal is Sweden & Germany, not Cuba & Venezuela.

The conservatives are fighting something that doesn't exist right now, and it's helping the social democrats big time.

I don't really give a **** where you're TRYING to go. My concern is where you're GOING to go. Furthermore, the time to fight something is BEFORE it becomes an accomplished fact, not after it already is. Duh.

Fight away.

If you think you're helping your cause rather than hurting it, great.

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[Cecilie1200]

The Republicans have the Tea Party and the Democrats have the social democrats, and most of us are somewhere in between the two.

The question to me is whether the conservatives will either figure out or admit that the goal is Sweden & Germany, not Cuba & Venezuela.

The conservatives are fighting something that doesn't exist right now, and it's helping the social democrats big time.

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The Democrats promise Sweden and deliver Venezuela.

That would actually be the argument to make. But the problem with just screaming "socialism" is that it makes it easy for the social democrats to point out existing "socialist" stuff like cops, roads, social security, Medicare, etc., and suddenly the conservatives have to either (1) defend the absurd or (2) call for the end of social security and Medicare, which is just a freakin' brilliant idea.

Just sayin' - while conservatives are screaming "socialism", the liberals are easily poking holes in that argument and then making gains with their own arguments. They need a more nuanced approach.

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Cops and roads aren't socialism, unless you think it's either socialism or anarchism, with no in-between. Social Security and Medicare, but I frankly find it funny that you leftists keep pointing to them as though you think conservatives approve of them. We do, in fact, call for replacing both systems, and the more you object to it, the more brilliant an idea it appears to be, just FYI.

Just saying, while liberals think they're "easily poking holes", they're actually just making conservatives look better by comparison. You need a more intelligent approach.

 

[Mac1958]

The Republicans have the Tea Party and the Democrats have the social democrats, and most of us are somewhere in between the two.

The question to me is whether the conservatives will either figure out or admit that the goal is Sweden & Germany, not Cuba & Venezuela.

The conservatives are fighting something that doesn't exist right now, and it's helping the social democrats big time.

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The Democrats promise Sweden and deliver Venezuela.

That would actually be the argument to make. But the problem with just screaming "socialism" is that it makes it easy for the social democrats to point out existing "socialist" stuff like cops, roads, social security, Medicare, etc., and suddenly the conservatives have to either (1) defend the absurd or (2) call for the end of social security and Medicare, which is just a freakin' brilliant idea.

Just sayin' - while conservatives are screaming "socialism", the liberals are easily poking holes in that argument and then making gains with their own arguments. They need a more nuanced approach.

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Cops and roads aren't socialism, unless you think it's either socialism or anarchism, with no in-between. Social Security and Medicare, but I frankly find it funny that you leftists keep pointing to them as though you think conservatives approve of them. We do, in fact, call for replacing both systems, and the more you object to it, the more brilliant an idea it appears to be, just FYI.

Just saying, while liberals think they're "easily poking holes", they're actually just making conservatives look better by comparison. You need a more intelligent approach.

Replacing Social Security and Medicare with what, precisely?

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