Will Putin Take the Bait in Kursk?

[jwoodie]

The Ukrainian incursion into Russia is not part of a serious military campaign. Rather, it is intended to provoke a Russian response inside Ukraine which would then be characterized as an overt attempt to take over and destroy Ukraine. Will it work?

Until now, the Russians have only occupied largely Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine and have adopted a defensive attrition posture which is bleeding the Ukrainian Army dry and undermining Western support for continuing to fuel the carnage. What the NATO war hawks need are new excuses for prolonging their proxy war against Russia. They would like to see perceived atrocities in Russia result in even greater atrocities in Ukraine, thereby whipping up public support for even greater military involvement.

Will Putin take this bait? He would be wise to avoid retaliatory attacks inside Ukraine and instead concentrate on encircling and capturing the Ukrainian special forces now inside Russia. It would be interesting to find out who they are and who planned their operation.

 

[Litwin]

He would be wise to avoid retaliatory attacks inside Ukraine and instead concentrate on encircling and capturing the Ukrainian special forces now inside Russia. It would be interesting to find out who they are and who planned their operation.

good Luck with it Ivan.

reality :

 

[ESay]

What Putin needs to do is to stop the Ukrainian advance in the Kursk region and carry on with his campaign in the Donbas. They are almost at the gates of two towns there - Pokrovsk and Torezk - two main logistical centers of Ukrainian army. When these towns are taken by them, this opens a way to the Sloviansk-Kramatorsk agglomeration from the south - their main goal in the region.

I won't be surprised at all if this Ukrainian offensive in the Kursk region will end up like another great offensive on the Sea of Azov direction ended last year - with massive losses of personnel and Western military hardware for no results achieved.

 

[Donald H]

The Ukrainian incursion into Russia is not part of a serious military campaign. Rather, it is intended to provoke a Russian response inside Ukraine which would then be characterized as an overt attempt to take over and destroy Ukraine. Will it work?

Until now, the Russians have only occupied largely Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine and have adopted a defensive attrition posture which is bleeding the Ukrainian Army dry and undermining Western support for continuing to fuel the carnage. What the NATO war hawks need are new excuses for prolonging their proxy war against Russia. They would like to see perceived atrocities in Russia result in even greater atrocities in Ukraine, thereby whipping up public support for even greater military involvement.

Will Putin take this bait? He would be wise to avoid retaliatory attacks inside Ukraine and instead concentrate on encircling and capturing the Ukrainian special forces now inside Russia. It would be interesting to find out who they are and who planned their operation.

It's generally being accepted by both sides now that the Kursk operation was planned well in advance by the Ukraine.

I'm going to propose something entirely different:

Russia left the opportunity wide open in expectation that the Ukraine would send their remaining best men and equipment into Russia, to be completely destroyed. That's what is happening now as we speak.

Russia/Putin can never admit to this because Russia's objective is to take no prisoners, or to 'disappear' the few that are taken.

This answers all the questions on why the Ukraine would act so suicidally.

 

[ThirdTerm]

This week, the Russian military struck Ukraine with more than 40 missiles, 750 guided bombs and 200 drones of various types. But so far, local Russian commanders have not moved Russian troops out of the occupied regions in eastern Ukraine. Pulling troops out of Ukraine to defend Kursk Oblast will result in a major strategic blunder for Russia. Zelensky is devilishly luring Russian troops into Kursk but Russia should never fall into the trap.

 

[jwoodie]

good Luck with it Ivan.

reality :

Who are the Kadyrovites?

 

[jwoodie]

Russia left the opportunity wide open in expectation that the Ukraine would send their remaining best men and equipment into Russia, to be completely destroyed. That's what is happening now as we speak.

Russia/Putin can never admit to this because Russia's objective is to take no prisoners, or to 'disappear' the few that are taken.

This answers all the questions on why the Ukraine would act so suicidally.

I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. Why would Ukraine send their remaining best men and equipment into Russia, to be completely destroyed?

 

[jwoodie]

Zelensky is devilishly luring Russian troops into Kursk but Russia should never fall into the trap.

What trap are you referring to? Is Ukraine planning a big offensive operation somewhere else?

P.S. What does "AFU" stand for?

 

[ThirdTerm]

If Russia pulls troops out of eastern Ukraine, the front lines will collapse, which gives Ukraine a chance to reclaim the lost territories seized by Russia. Russia will be completely humiliated, if it loses those hard-won gains in eastern Ukraine. Russia has deployed several brigades of about a thousand men each to repel the Ukrainian offensive in the Kursk region.



The Armed Forces of Ukraine (abbreviated as AFU) are the military forces of Ukraine. All military and security forces, including the Armed Forces.

Armed Forces of Ukraine - Wikipedia

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[jwoodie]

If Russia pulls troops out of eastern Ukraine, the front lines will collapse, which gives Ukraine a chance to reclaim the lost territories seized by Russia. Russia will be completely humiliated, if it loses those hard-won gains in eastern Ukraine. Russia has deployed several brigades of about a thousand men each to repel the Ukrainian offensive in the Kursk region.

How many troops does Russia have in eastern Ukraine? Would removing 5,000 troops really cause its front lines to collapse?

 

[Litwin]

Who are the Kadyrovites?

Muslim tribesman who very often rape always drunk Muscovite slaves

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[Litwin]

How many troops does Russia have in eastern Ukraine? Would removing 5,000 troops really cause its front lines to collapse?

nobody knows, even putin dont know , one for sure, its all look like 1917 N2

 

[Litwin]

It's generally being accepted by both sides now that the Kursk operation was planned well in advance by the Ukraine.

I'm going to propose something entirely different:

Russia left the opportunity wide open in expectation that the Ukraine would send their remaining best men and equipment into Russia, to be completely destroyed. That's what is happening now as we speak.

Russia/Putin can never admit to this because Russia's objective is to take no prisoners, or to 'disappear' the few that are taken.

This answers all the questions on why the Ukraine would act so suicidally.

DREAM ON IVAN

THE REALITY >

 

[JWBooth]

Kursk is effectively the Ukronazis repeat of the Wehrmacht's last ditch effort in the low countries before the Allies swarmed Germany from the West. They haven't the native manpower to maintain the offensive, relying on mercs.

 

[JWBooth]

If Russia pulls troops out of eastern Ukraine, the front lines will collapse, which gives Ukraine a chance to reclaim the lost territories seized by Russia. Russia will be completely humiliated, if it loses those hard-won gains in eastern Ukraine. Russia has deployed several brigades of about a thousand men each to repel the Ukrainian offensive in the Kursk region.

Wishful thinking, the Russians still have a huge manpower advantage.

 

[Litwin]

Kursk is effectively the Ukronazis repeat of the Wehrmacht's last ditch

RT .ru crap

the reality :

Moscow horde´s war record :-

1856 defeated by Britain and France

1905 defeated by Japan

1917 defeated by Germany

1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states

1939 defeated by Finland

1969 defeated by China

1989 defeated by Afghanistan

1989 defeated in the Cold War.

1996 defeated by Chechnya

2022 defeated by Ukraine

WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn

Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-

a) Hungary 1956

b) Czechoslovakia 1968

c) Moldova 1992

d) Georgia 2008

 

[Litwin]

Wishful thinking, the Russians still have a huge manpower advantage.

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[ThirdTerm]

Russia is tightening its offensive by sending additional troops to Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, taking advantage of the opportunity that some of Ukraine's most elite troops were sent to Kursk. While Russia is taking full control of Donetsk, Ukraine is losing ground in eastern Ukraine. The Kursk offensive is a risky gambit and it will pay a dear price in its own territory.



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Russian forces said Tuesday they had captured the key hub of New York in eastern Ukraine, as Moscow -- under pressure by a Kyiv counterattack on its territory -- presses on with its offensive.

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[Ringo]

 

[Litwin]