Will Harper ever visit Turkey?

[Synthaholic]

Turkey, if memory serves me well was a serious conduit for Jews running for their lives. As was Holland.

Now though there is a serious problem with uber conservative Islamists who want to literally take out the moderates.

It's a time bomb I've been watching for some time.

We have the very same problem here. Except the "Islamists" are "Evangelists".

Sans bombing vests hello??????

They are ready, willing and able to blow up the U.S. economy without any explosives other than their ignorant stubbornness.

 

[Ropey]

Translation: my argument has no substance, so I will slink away.

He also conveniently forgets that during WWII the Turks allowed Jewish people fleeing Europe to come to Istanbul...and if they chose..to have safe passage to Palestine.

Like so many others, ol' Ropey has a dagger ready for the back of Turkey.

Turkey, if memory serves me well was a serious conduit for Jews running for their lives. As was Holland.

Now though there is a serious problem with uber conservative Islamists who want to literally take out the moderates.

It's a time bomb I've been watching for some time.

And since they won't admit their genocide. And since they are not the secularists they once were and now move to fundamentalist ideological Islam and are changing their constitution to allow for greater Islamic fundamentalism control.

I say watch them well lest they repeat on the Kurds. Israel? We are too far away from Turkeys border. It's about genocide. Not Jews. Not Israel. Genocide.

My view and that's all there is.

 

[Synthaholic]

He also conveniently forgets that during WWII the Turks allowed Jewish people fleeing Europe to come to Istanbul...and if they chose..to have safe passage to Palestine.

Like so many others, ol' Ropey has a dagger ready for the back of Turkey.

Turkey, if memory serves me well was a serious conduit for Jews running for their lives. As was Holland.

Now though there is a serious problem with uber conservative Islamists who want to literally take out the moderates.

It's a time bomb I've been watching for some time.

And since they won't admit their genocide. And since they are not the secularists they once were and now move to fundamentalist ideological Islam and are changing their constitution to allow for greater Islamic fundamentalism control.

I say watch them well lest they repeat on the Kurds. Israel? We are too far away from Turkeys border. It's about genocide. Not Jews. Not Israel. Genocide.

My view and that's all there is.

It's about flotillas.

 

[Ropey]

It's about flotillas.

No, it's about Genocide.

The term Genocide was coined when talking about this specific action by the Turks in their "Turkish-Ottoman" reign and which when dissolved allowed the Turks to genocide the Armenians and expand their borders.

So by definition, this would be Genocide.

Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Before the Turkish Genocide of the Armenians (while they [Turkey] expanded borders)

Now let's be clear.

Historic Armenia:

Maps Related To The Armenian Genocide

 

[ekrem]

Now lets deal with the absolute lie that Canada does not trade with Turkey. I get so sick and tired of morons who post lies and absolute lies without getting smacked upside the head.

Knuckle sandwich coming you moron who posted that Canada does not trade with Turkey.

Canada-Turkey Relations
Fact Sheet | PDF * (135 KB)
Political Relations
Canada and Turkey have longstanding diplomatic relations. In 1947, Canada appointed its first resident Ambassador to Turkey, while Turkey opened a resident Embassy in Ottawa in 1944. In recent years as friends and allies, Canada and Turkey have expanded the depth and variety of their bilateral links as valued political, commercial, strategic, and security partners. In 2009, these links were further strengthened by a number of new initiatives, including the inauguration of direct flights between Toronto and Istanbul and the signing of an agreement to avoid double taxation.

Multilateral cooperation has grown through links in NATO, the United Nations and its agencies, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, and the Council of Europe. Through these shared ties, Canada and Turkey are working together toward our common goal of promoting peace and stability throughout Europe and Central Asia.

Military Cooperation
Turkey and Canada's Armed Forces have enjoyed a longstanding cooperation. They are both committed to defending democratic values and global security within the frame work of international cooperation and security. Both military forces are excellent partners in the multilateral sphere and work together well within the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO). This has again been recently demonstrated through close Canadian and Turkish cooperation as major contributors to the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan.

Trade
Canada has a relatively strong commercial relationship with Turkey — the world's 17th largest economy, a G-20 member, and the third most populous nation in Europe (71.9 million) after Germany and Russia. Given its strategic geographic location and negotiated trade agreements, Turkey offers excellent access to markets in Europe (including preferential Customs Union access to the European Union), the Caucasus, Central Asia, and the Middle East.

Canada-Turkey bilateral merchandise trade has almost doubled in the last five years, reaching $1.9 billion in 2008. Canadian exports to Turkey reached $1.2 billion in 2008, with a product mix ranging from commodities to advanced technology goods. These included approximately $330 million worth of agricultural goods. Turkey is Canada's 22nd largest merchandise export market and the 45th largest source of merchandise imports.

Investment
In recent years, Turkey has been one of the top global destinations for Foreign Direct Investment (FDI). Many Canadian companies have recognized the great investment potential Turkey offers. Canadian investments in Turkey stood at about $1.1 billion in 2009 and Export Development Canada has identified the country as a strategic market of opportunity for Canadian firms.

Niche opportunities exist for Canadian investors, particularly in the energy, information and communication technologies, mining, environment, and agriculture/agri-food sectors. Commercial opportunities in Turkey match Canadian supply capabilities.

Last updated: November 2009

I hate liars.

Your link says, that Canadian-Turkish trade reached 1.9 Billion $ as of 2008.
That's about 0.6% of total Turkish trade with the outside world, which is rising in double-digit % each year (2008-2009 excluded world-crisis).

Bilateral State visits are accompanied by businessmen to bolster business-contacts and if everything goes fine there are even signed business-deals at the end of the State visit.

Mr. Harper can stay in Canada or visit another country, which he surely does.
We grew 11% in Q1 of 2011, and if Canada's Harper puts different things on the agenda which hinders him to cooperate with Turkey or even visit Turkey, then it is Canada who looses.
Others will be lucky, that maybe 1 or 2 business-deals which we might have given to the Canadians are now free of Canadian competition.
Think about it.

 

[Ropey]

It's about flotillas.

No, it's about Genocide.

The term Genocide was coined when talking about this specific action by the Turks in their "Turkish-Ottoman" reign and which when dissolved allowed the Turks to genocide the Armenians and expand their borders.

So by definition, this would be Genocide.

Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Before the Turkish Genocide of the Armenians (while they [Turkey] expanded borders)

Now let's be clear.

Historic Armenia:

Maps Related To The Armenian Genocide

Ekrem. This is the reason. Your vaunted economics aside.

This is still the reason.

And Stephen sees what is happening to the Kurds. You do know Canada has a contingent of Kurdish refugees and hears the stories.

So do we. Want some of them? I worry for them too. You? Not so much...

 

[ekrem]

I've witnessed genocide and all I got out of it is a casino in a Canadian reserve.
On whose lands have you built your house upon, besides that Harper is anyway no one - at least in this hemisphere - that anybody takes for serious.

 

[Ropey]

I've witnessed genocide and all I got out of it is a casino in a Canadian reserve.
On whose lands have you built your house upon, besides that Harper is anyway no one - at least in this hemisphere - that anybody takes for serious.

The "First Nations People" of Canada are increasing. They have their own cultural laws, education laws and their own lands. They are the only people in Canada now able to perform these kinds of self-governing since the Canadian legislation that threw out Jewish/Christian/Menonite, etc. family law allowances along with the application by Muslims to adopt Sharia family law.

Canada has stood (again Harper) and apologized to the First Nations people and makes reparations.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=und826qTsrY&feature=related]‪Harper's Apology‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

And not for the first time.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtITgWunwjw&feature=related]‪CANADA APOLOGIZES-04‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

And again

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EfbbwPv1tM&feature=related]‪CANADA APOLOGIZES-01‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

And the Response from the First Nations People to Canada:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXjnGeBDNY&feature=related]‪CANADA APOLOGIZES-05‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

Brave survivors, through the telling of their painful stories, have stripped white supremacy of its authority and legitimacy. The irresistibility of speaking truth to power is real. This morning our elders held a condolence ceremony for those who never heard an apology, never received compensation, yet courageously fought assimilation so that we could witness this day.

Today is not the result of a political game. Instead, it is something that shows the righteousness and importance of our struggle. We know we have many difficult issues to handle. There are many fights still to be fought.

What happened today signifies a new dawn in the relationship between us and the rest of Canada. We are and always have been an indispensable part of the Canadian identity.

As a great statesman once said, we are all part of one “garment of destiny”. The differences between us are not blood or colour and “the ties that bind us are deeper than those that separate us”. The “common road of hope” will bring us to reconciliation more than any words, laws or legal claims ever could.

We still have to struggle, but now we are in this together.

I reach out to all Canadians today in this spirit of reconciliation.

First Nations Chief Phil Fontaine

Video - Indian Residential Schools Statement of Apology - Phil Fontaine, National Chief, Assembly of First Nations

Where are the Armenians in Anatolian Turkey ekrem?[/QUOTE]

Why does it matter ekrem? Watch Phil Fontaine and the Chiefs along with so many others begin to cry.

It matters. And Notice the "Never Again" Harper said.

It matters as well...