Seymour Flops
Diamond Member
5) Trump tried a freeze, then pulled back due to questions about its legality.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s budget office on Wednesday rescinded a memo freezing spending on federal loans and grants, less than two days after it sparked widespread confusion and legal challenges across the country.
The memo, which was issued Monday by the Office of Management and Budget, had frightened states, schools and organizations that rely on trillions of dollars from Washington.
So, what does that mean? It means that Trump is determined to follow the law scrupulously, so that his policy implementation will stick. Last thing he would want is to work so hard keeping his promises to the American people, only to have his work undone because he made some legal mistep.
One stutter step at the start does NOT mean that always and forever it shall be illegal for Trump to slow down government spending in the slightest.
4) No one who claims "it's illegal!" has shown what law they think trump has violated, nor how he violated it.
The ninety day pause is perfectly legal. It would be absurd if there were a law that forbade government from pausing spending to conduct an audit. Yes, congress has passed some absurd laws, but not that one, they haven't.
If anyone disagrees that there is no such law, merely present that law Show me the U.S. Code number, with a quote and a link. Or the part fo the Constitution that rules out funding freezes by agencies. Not some vague statement like, "Congress' holds the purse strings!" You can't take that to a jury. Show me the law.
3) No judge has ruled it illegal. Every judge that the left mistakenly believes has ruled against Trump's funding freeze, has actually granted a motion for a temporary restraining order to give Trump detractors a chance to develop a case that he has acted illegally. If that case had already been made and a judge accepted that what Trump is doing is illegal, the judge would simply instruct Trump to never do it again, on pain of whatever penalty that law (that no one can seem to cite) provides.
Show me a judge that has told Trump to restart the spending on anything other than a temporary basis.
2) Congress funds agencies, but it has never specified the kind of spending that normal Americans object to, such as funding gain-of-function research in Wuhan, or transgender surgeries and advocacy in Latin America. That kind of spending is done by giving grants from a general fund for grants, and often by layers of sub-grantors, such as the EcoHealthAlliance, headed by a close friend of Doctor Anthony Fauci.
The WIV received NIH funding through its partnership with EcoHealth Alliance, a nonprofit and longtime collaborator with the WIV on coronavirus research.
The Biden administration rightly (and perfectly legally) stopped funding to this NGO non-profit once it finally woke to what Fauci's friend was doing.
abcnews.go.com
No Democrat Senator screamed that congress had spoken and that the president had no right to interfere. Republicans cheered this belated action.
1) Congress funds agencies, either on an annual basis or a shorter term as in the case of a Continuing Resolution. But it does not specify that the money be spent at a set rate of speed. Even if you believe that funding an agency for $2,345,432,000 means that said agency must spend it all, every penny, or it is illegal, it has until the end of the fiscal year or other time period to do it. A ninety day pause would not prevent that.
Instead, it would give the agencies time to be sure that they are not wasting the taxpayers money that they were granted. Trump is not a fiscal conservative. He will spend that money, just not on fraud, waste and abuse. Or at least much less fraud waste and abuse, and more useful projects.
That ability is what the objectors to the spending pause really object to in my opinion.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s budget office on Wednesday rescinded a memo freezing spending on federal loans and grants, less than two days after it sparked widespread confusion and legal challenges across the country.
The memo, which was issued Monday by the Office of Management and Budget, had frightened states, schools and organizations that rely on trillions of dollars from Washington.
So, what does that mean? It means that Trump is determined to follow the law scrupulously, so that his policy implementation will stick. Last thing he would want is to work so hard keeping his promises to the American people, only to have his work undone because he made some legal mistep.
One stutter step at the start does NOT mean that always and forever it shall be illegal for Trump to slow down government spending in the slightest.
4) No one who claims "it's illegal!" has shown what law they think trump has violated, nor how he violated it.
The ninety day pause is perfectly legal. It would be absurd if there were a law that forbade government from pausing spending to conduct an audit. Yes, congress has passed some absurd laws, but not that one, they haven't.
If anyone disagrees that there is no such law, merely present that law Show me the U.S. Code number, with a quote and a link. Or the part fo the Constitution that rules out funding freezes by agencies. Not some vague statement like, "Congress' holds the purse strings!" You can't take that to a jury. Show me the law.
3) No judge has ruled it illegal. Every judge that the left mistakenly believes has ruled against Trump's funding freeze, has actually granted a motion for a temporary restraining order to give Trump detractors a chance to develop a case that he has acted illegally. If that case had already been made and a judge accepted that what Trump is doing is illegal, the judge would simply instruct Trump to never do it again, on pain of whatever penalty that law (that no one can seem to cite) provides.
Show me a judge that has told Trump to restart the spending on anything other than a temporary basis.
2) Congress funds agencies, but it has never specified the kind of spending that normal Americans object to, such as funding gain-of-function research in Wuhan, or transgender surgeries and advocacy in Latin America. That kind of spending is done by giving grants from a general fund for grants, and often by layers of sub-grantors, such as the EcoHealthAlliance, headed by a close friend of Doctor Anthony Fauci.
The WIV received NIH funding through its partnership with EcoHealth Alliance, a nonprofit and longtime collaborator with the WIV on coronavirus research.
The Biden administration rightly (and perfectly legally) stopped funding to this NGO non-profit once it finally woke to what Fauci's friend was doing.
US halts funding access to Wuhan lab at heart of COVID-19 origins debate
Funding has been suspended to the Wuhan Institute of Virology
abcnews.go.com
No Democrat Senator screamed that congress had spoken and that the president had no right to interfere. Republicans cheered this belated action.
1) Congress funds agencies, either on an annual basis or a shorter term as in the case of a Continuing Resolution. But it does not specify that the money be spent at a set rate of speed. Even if you believe that funding an agency for $2,345,432,000 means that said agency must spend it all, every penny, or it is illegal, it has until the end of the fiscal year or other time period to do it. A ninety day pause would not prevent that.
Instead, it would give the agencies time to be sure that they are not wasting the taxpayers money that they were granted. Trump is not a fiscal conservative. He will spend that money, just not on fraud, waste and abuse. Or at least much less fraud waste and abuse, and more useful projects.
That ability is what the objectors to the spending pause really object to in my opinion.
