Why it's warm in Alaska but frigid in most of the U.S. right now

[skookerasbil]

I'll go with the opinion of prominent climate experts who have publically stated there is still much to be learned about climate change.

The people of the religion cant for one nano-second consider ANYTHING except the already long established narrative, "The science is settled........we don't want to know shit!!"

 

[RollingThunder]

I'll go with the opinion of prominent climate experts who have publically stated there is still much to be learned about climate change. The people of the religion cant for one nano-second consider ANYTHING except the already long established narrative, "The science is settled........we don't want to know shit!!"

ALL of the actual "prominent climate experts" laugh at you dimwitted denier cultists, kookles.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The connection can be found in the spectrum of greenhouse radiation. Using high-resolution FTIR spectroscopy, we can measure the exact wavelengths of long-wave (infrared) radiation reaching the ground.

Figure 1: Spectrum of the greenhouse radiation measured at the surface. Greenhouse effect from water vapour is filtered out, showing the contributions of other greenhouse gases (Evans 2006).

Sure enough, we can see that CO2 is adding considerable warming, along with ozone (O3) and methane (CH4). This is called surface radiative forcing, and the measurements are part of the empirical evidence that CO2 is causing the warming.

How do we know more CO2 is causing warming

More real science, rather than flap-yap.

Evans 2006....

When Evans solved for T what number did he use as the earths NO ATMOSPHERE in degrees K?

Needless to say when he used the wrong one all of his assumptions/conclusions then became useless. He screwed up the math and thus everything he did remains 33 Degrees K to high in his computations. All models based on his failure fail.

 

[Billy_Bob]

One of the reasons we have paradoxical presentations, that alarmist cant understand and mistake as "oh my god were gonna fry" is the natural part of heat removal from the system to balance.

As the lobes of the polar low penetrate the mid latitudes they collect heat while cooling the surface of the earth. This heat is then pushed poleward to be released into space.

Any one who studies atmospherics understands that very little heat is lost near the equator yet over 80% of the earths heat loss happens above 75 degrees latitude.

 

[mamooth]

Billy, we've informed you before that your ass is not regarded as a reliable source. Hence, when you yank stuff out of your ass, it just gets laughed at.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Billy, we've informed you before that your ass is not regarded as a reliable source. Hence, when you yank stuff out of your ass, it just gets laughed at.

Speaking of unreliable sources... you were saying....? And who the fuck are you? A moron that doesn't have a clue.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Polar cell:

"This is the northernmost cell of circulation and its mean position is between 60°N and the North Pole. At the pole, cold, dense air descends, causing an area of subsidence and high pressure. As the air sinks, it begins spreading southward. Since the coriolis force is strongest at the poles, the southward moving air deflects sharply to the right. This wind regime is called the surface polar easterlies, although the upper winds are still predominantly from the southwest. Near 60ºN, the southeasterly moving air moving along the surface collides with the weak, northwesterly surface flow that resulted from spreading air at 30°N. This colliding air rises, creating a belt of low pressure near 60°N."

You see, It is precisely this type of information that the left wits dont want people to see. That the cooling process is normal and natural.. When Polar cells over drive the Hadley cells the warming is being spent to space rapidly.

 

[mamooth]

Billy, your idiot conclusion -- that most energy is lost to space at the poles -- is not supported in any way by your cut-and-pastes. You just yanked that conclusion out of your ass.

Non-stupid people understand that, other factors being equal, radiation to space depends primarily on temperature. The poles are very cold, hence they radiate to space much less.

This ...

Any one who studies atmospherics understands that very little heat is lost near the equator yet over 80% of the earths heat loss happens above 75 degrees latitude.

... is a steaming crock of bullshit that you just yanked out of your ass. If it's not total crap, just show us all those other atmospheric scientists who say that most of the earth's heat loss goes out the poles.

 

[RollingThunder]

One of the reasons we have paradoxical presentations, that alarmist cant understand and mistake as "oh my god were gonna fry" is the natural part of heat removal from the system to balance.

As the lobes of the polar low penetrate the mid latitudes they collect heat while cooling the surface of the earth. This heat is then pushed poleward to be released into space.

Any one who studies atmospherics understands that very little heat is lost near the equator yet over 80% of the earths heat loss happens above 75 degrees latitude.

I swear you're getting more and more insane as this year passes, BoobyBobNutJob. They're going to be netting you up and hauling you off to the funny farm soon. Assuming you're not already there.

Earth’s Energy Budget
NASA
(excerpts)

Absorbed sunlight is balanced by heat radiated from Earth’s surface and atmosphere. This satellite map shows the distribution of thermal infrared radiation emitted by Earth in September 2008. Most heat escaped from areas just north and south of the equator, where the surface was warm, but there were few clouds. Along the equator, persistent clouds prevented heat from escaping. Likewise, the cold poles radiated little heat. (NASA map by Robert Simmon, based on CERES data.)

 

[Billy_Bob]

Billy, your idiot conclusion -- that most energy is lost to space at the poles -- is not supported in any way by your cut-and-pastes. You just yanked that conclusion out of your ass.

Non-stupid people understand that, other factors being equal, radiation to space depends primarily on temperature. The poles are very cold, hence they radiate to space much less.

This ...

Any one who studies atmospherics understands that very little heat is lost near the equator yet over 80% of the earths heat loss happens above 75 degrees latitude.

... is a steaming crock of bullshit that you just yanked out of your ass. If it's not total crap, just show us all those other atmospheric scientists who say that most of the earth's heat loss goes out the poles.

The earths atmosphere is thinnest where? Where is the biggest temperature gradient? You really should pull you head out of your ass. I cant understand you with that mouth full of crap...

Again facts discredit your half witted crap.

What is the depth of the atmosphere at the equator? Do you even have a clue? What is the depth of the atmosphere at the pole regions? which Cells rotate the most heat from the earth surface to the upper atmosphere? Hadley? Polar? Equatorial?

You go right on eating crap that's being shoveled to you. You dont have a dam clue about where the thermal blanket of the earth allows heat exit. Nor do you understand how the earth cools. this is a major problem with the AGW cult. They dont understand the system or how it works or thiey outright lie and they make wild ass assumptions telling everyone they are gonna fry. They lie in an attempt to control people and economies..

 

[RollingThunder]

Billy, your idiot conclusion -- that most energy is lost to space at the poles -- is not supported in any way by your cut-and-pastes. You just yanked that conclusion out of your ass.

Non-stupid people understand that, other factors being equal, radiation to space depends primarily on temperature. The poles are very cold, hence they radiate to space much less.

This ...

Any one who studies atmospherics understands that very little heat is lost near the equator yet over 80% of the earths heat loss happens above 75 degrees latitude.

... is a steaming crock of bullshit that you just yanked out of your ass. If it's not total crap, just show us all those other atmospheric scientists who say that most of the earth's heat loss goes out the poles.

The earths atmosphere is thinnest where? Where is the biggest temperature gradient? You really should pull you head out of your ass. I cant understand you with that mouth full of crap...

Again facts discredit your half witted crap.

What is the depth of the atmosphere at the equator? Do you even have a clue? What is the depth of the atmosphere at the pole regions? which Cells rotate the most heat from the earth surface to the upper atmosphere? Hadley? Polar? Equatorial?

You go right on eating crap that's being shoveled to you. You dont have a dam clue about where the thermal blanket of the earth allows heat exit. Nor do you understand how the earth cools. this is a major problem with the AGW cult. They dont understand the system or how it works or thiey outright lie and they make wild ass assumptions telling everyone they are gonna fry. They lie in an attempt to control people and economies..

More clueless insanity from the denier cult retard.

See post #49.

 

[jc456]

The reason the planet is warming is because CO2 reflects ground warmth and solar radiation back down to the earth.......except in areas where it doesn't, apparently. But pay no attention to that, it's all part of the evils of capitalism.

"Except in areas where it doesn't" which would be inside your skull, retard, nowhere else.

Whatever moron. You cannot explain it, so you denegrate the poster. Typical. All opposition MUST be silenced!

The Greenhouse Effect has been very well explained scientifically. You're just too retarded to grasp the information.

Except you do not know that adding 120 PPM of CO2 in the atmosphere will not cause a temperature increase. So sir, you do not know science at all.

Yes we do know that adding CO2 to the Earth's atmosphere causes a temperature increase. That is a well established scientific fact. You fail to grasp that fact because you are a brainwashed retard, or you deny that fact because you're a paid troll working for Exxon or the Koch brothers.

Where is your evidence to support that claim?

 

[jc456]

Billy, your idiot conclusion -- that most energy is lost to space at the poles -- is not supported in any way by your cut-and-pastes. You just yanked that conclusion out of your ass.

Non-stupid people understand that, other factors being equal, radiation to space depends primarily on temperature. The poles are very cold, hence they radiate to space much less.

This ...

Any one who studies atmospherics understands that very little heat is lost near the equator yet over 80% of the earths heat loss happens above 75 degrees latitude.

... is a steaming crock of bullshit that you just yanked out of your ass. If it's not total crap, just show us all those other atmospheric scientists who say that most of the earth's heat loss goes out the poles.

dude/ dudette, you've gone actually nutjobs now. You were just a k00k, now you are a nutjob k00k. I think you need to know where the CO2 is at.

 

[skookerasbil]

Hey JC......a number of top stories on DRUDGE right now!!!


COMING: Harsh Cold to Set Records in South, Freeze Northeast...50% of Lower 48 covered in snow...

Most this early in more than decade...4 ft Expected in Upstate NY...CHILL MAP...Ice Visible on Lake Superior...Idaho breaks cold record from 1880!





Only the k00ks think that will send the folks out to buy air conditioners!!

 

[skookerasbil]

more top of the page on DRUDGE now >>>

Idaho breaks cold record from 1880!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Billy, your idiot conclusion -- that most energy is lost to space at the poles -- is not supported in any way by your cut-and-pastes. You just yanked that conclusion out of your ass.

Non-stupid people understand that, other factors being equal, radiation to space depends primarily on temperature. The poles are very cold, hence they radiate to space much less.

This ...

Any one who studies atmospherics understands that very little heat is lost near the equator yet over 80% of the earths heat loss happens above 75 degrees latitude.

... is a steaming crock of bullshit that you just yanked out of your ass. If it's not total crap, just show us all those other atmospheric scientists who say that most of the earth's heat loss goes out the poles.

The earths atmosphere is thinnest where? Where is the biggest temperature gradient? You really should pull you head out of your ass. I cant understand you with that mouth full of crap...

Again facts discredit your half witted crap.

What is the depth of the atmosphere at the equator? Do you even have a clue? What is the depth of the atmosphere at the pole regions? which Cells rotate the most heat from the earth surface to the upper atmosphere? Hadley? Polar? Equatorial?

You go right on eating crap that's being shoveled to you. You dont have a dam clue about where the thermal blanket of the earth allows heat exit. Nor do you understand how the earth cools. this is a major problem with the AGW cult. They dont understand the system or how it works or thiey outright lie and they make wild ass assumptions telling everyone they are gonna fry. They lie in an attempt to control people and economies..

More clueless insanity from the denier cult retard.

See post #49.

left wit drivel...

were still waiting for the Data, methods, and calculations showing what 120 ppm of CO2 has done.. Don't forget to include how you discerned that 0.3% of man caused CO2 and using EMPIRICAL DATA not any model crap..

 

[Crick]

So, Billy, twixt the Equatorial, Sub-tropical and polar cells, which DOES rotate the most heat to the upper atmosphere?

 

[skookerasbil]

Oh Gawd.........

Ever hear about people who like to hear themselves talk?

The AGW people like to see themselves type........about these insignificant climate science nuances that nobody cares about and that don't matter in the bigger picture. Nobody understands these dynamics...........nobody.......but they are being put out there as "science". Many non-alarmist climate scientists are now coming around to accepting that there is still much to be learned moving forward and that predictions based upon current understanding = laughable. ( see scores of climate change predictions in the past 10 years that have failed in epic fashion )...

........

On Dr. Judith Curry's recent comments..........


Curry was optimistic about how the internet is changing things for the better. “Social media is changing things like crazy. The whole emphasis on peer review being challenged by social media and open access journals. The whole dynamic of research and higher academia is changing for the better,” she explained.
“I was on that treadmill, I am mostly off it now and it is very liberating to be off that treadmill,” she added.
Severe Weather
Curry also challenged the notion that there was more “extreme weather” today. “Much of the severe weather we think we are seeing right now — you look back to the 1930 and 1950s and this is what we were seeing also. This is weather amnesia,” she noted.
“Sandy was a category one, when it struck. There is nothing exceptional about a category one hurricane striking New York City. What was exceptional was the damage and this was associated with extreme wealth and development in that region,” she said.
“We have seen that the hurricane landfalls have become fewer in last few decades overall. So you cannot blame it on global warming,” she said.






The alarmist contingent is like a horse at the racetrack with blinders on............obviously. And one will notice.........these fools come on the internet and try to w0w the forums with hyper-complicated climate terms to make themselves look more legit = gay. Over time, that shit gets exposed and people start ignoring you.


Once people started recognizing that the alarmist contingent is ALWAYS talking about events in the present and never comparing them to past events ( as Curry astutely points out )......they realized that its not at all about the science.........ats about the agenda attached to real, real shakey science

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Studies have tied this particular pattern in part to rapid Arctic climate change as a result of manmade global warming.

Of course. I mean, what else could i possibly be. Goebbel's Warming is so pervasive these days any hick-up or weather anomaly can be tied to it without even a lick of merit. It's the catch all for every psuedo- scientist and meteorologist in existence today.

 

[skookerasbil]

Studies have tied this particular pattern in part to rapid Arctic climate change as a result of manmade global warming.

Of course. I mean, what else could i possibly be. Goebbel's Warming is so pervasive these days any hick-up or weather anomaly can be tied to it without even a lick of merit. It's the catch all for every psuedo- scientist and meteorologist in existence today.

Indeed.........thankfully for the rest of us, the public now see's this shit as "pseudo-science"................



Americans Show Low Levels of Concern on Global Warming

Americans Show Low Levels of Concern on Global Warming



Gallup............ftmfw!!!