Why Israel Lies

[teddyearp]

Haha, you're funny. Your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

 

[Roudy]

Israel engages in the kinds of jaw-dropping lies that characterize despotic and totalitarian regimes. It does not deform the truth; it inverts it. It routinely paints a picture for the outside world that is diametrically opposed to reality. And all of us reporters who have covered the occupied territories have run into Israel’s Alice-in-Wonderland narratives, which we dutifully insert into our stories — required under the rules of American journalism — although we know they are untrue.

I saw small boys baited and killed by Israeli soldiers in the Gaza refugee camp of Khan Younis. The soldiers swore at the boys in Arabic over the loudspeakers of their armored jeep. The boys, about 10 years old, then threw stones at an Israeli vehicle and the soldiers opened fire, killing some, wounding others. I was present more than once as Israeli troops drew out and shot Palestinian children in this way. Such incidents, in the Israeli lexicon, become children caught in crossfire. I was in Gaza when F-16 attack jets dropped 1,000-pound iron fragmentation bombs on overcrowded hovels in Gaza City. I saw the corpses of the victims, including children. This became a surgical strike on a bomb-making factory. I have watched Israel demolish homes and entire apartment blocks to create wide buffer zones between the Palestinians and the Israeli troops that ring Gaza. I have interviewed the destitute and homeless families, some camped out in crude shelters erected in the rubble. The destruction becomes the demolition of the homes of terrorists. I have stood in the remains of schools — Israel struck two United Nations schools in the last six days, causing at least 10 fatalitiesat one in Rafah on Sunday and at least 19 at one in the Jebaliya refugee camp Wednesday — as well as medical clinics and mosques. I have heard Israel claim that errant rockets or mortar fire from the Palestinians caused these and other deaths, or that the attacked spots were being used as arms depots or launching sites. I, along with every other reporter I know who has worked in Gaza, have never seen any evidence that Hamas uses civilians as “human shields.”
Why Israel Lies

they lie

"Truthdig"?! More like "Liedig"?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Weatherman20:
"Take your issue up with the UN and international law. UN established the nation and international law says you lose the ground you lost after starting wars."


Good grief you have no idea of the pablum you spout...the UN did NOT establish Israel, and international law is raped by the Israelis...your ignorance is nothing short of breathtaking...

You racists really do need professional help.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Israel engages in the kinds of jaw-dropping lies that characterize despotic and totalitarian regimes. It does not deform the truth; it inverts it. It routinely paints a picture for the outside world that is diametrically opposed to reality. And all of us reporters who have covered the occupied territories have run into Israel’s Alice-in-Wonderland narratives, which we dutifully insert into our stories — required under the rules of American journalism — although we know they are untrue.

I saw small boys baited and killed by Israeli soldiers in the Gaza refugee camp of Khan Younis. The soldiers swore at the boys in Arabic over the loudspeakers of their armored jeep. The boys, about 10 years old, then threw stones at an Israeli vehicle and the soldiers opened fire, killing some, wounding others. I was present more than once as Israeli troops drew out and shot Palestinian children in this way. Such incidents, in the Israeli lexicon, become children caught in crossfire. I was in Gaza when F-16 attack jets dropped 1,000-pound iron fragmentation bombs on overcrowded hovels in Gaza City. I saw the corpses of the victims, including children. This became a surgical strike on a bomb-making factory. I have watched Israel demolish homes and entire apartment blocks to create wide buffer zones between the Palestinians and the Israeli troops that ring Gaza. I have interviewed the destitute and homeless families, some camped out in crude shelters erected in the rubble. The destruction becomes the demolition of the homes of terrorists. I have stood in the remains of schools — Israel struck two United Nations schools in the last six days, causing at least 10 fatalitiesat one in Rafah on Sunday and at least 19 at one in the Jebaliya refugee camp Wednesday — as well as medical clinics and mosques. I have heard Israel claim that errant rockets or mortar fire from the Palestinians caused these and other deaths, or that the attacked spots were being used as arms depots or launching sites. I, along with every other reporter I know who has worked in Gaza, have never seen any evidence that Hamas uses civilians as “human shields.”
Why Israel Lies

they lie

That's one journalist. Albeit a Pulitzer Prize one. But one that just DECLARES that Hamas is innocent of hiding in Hospitals and UN schools. I think it's pretty established that they DO and this journalist just wants to write a "script" -- not an actual balanced story of the conflict.

For every rock throwing incident -- there's a prequel. And a lot of actions that can't be interpreted by just dropping in and standing there. When you put your children into the streets to make your "war" for you -- bad things will happen. For GENERATIONS -- if the Palestinians continue to focus on the demise of Israel and NOT the CREATION of Palestine.

I agree... I'm just wondering why an article about a terrorist organization like Hamas that uses children as human shields has to be "balanced".

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was founded on

Israel engages in the kinds of jaw-dropping lies that characterize despotic and totalitarian regimes. It does not deform the truth; it inverts it. It routinely paints a picture for the outside world that is diametrically opposed to reality. And all of us reporters who have covered the occupied territories have run into Israel’s Alice-in-Wonderland narratives, which we dutifully insert into our stories — required under the rules of American journalism — although we know they are untrue.

I saw small boys baited and killed by Israeli soldiers in the Gaza refugee camp of Khan Younis. The soldiers swore at the boys in Arabic over the loudspeakers of their armored jeep. The boys, about 10 years old, then threw stones at an Israeli vehicle and the soldiers opened fire, killing some, wounding others. I was present more than once as Israeli troops drew out and shot Palestinian children in this way. Such incidents, in the Israeli lexicon, become children caught in crossfire. I was in Gaza when F-16 attack jets dropped 1,000-pound iron fragmentation bombs on overcrowded hovels in Gaza City. I saw the corpses of the victims, including children. This became a surgical strike on a bomb-making factory. I have watched Israel demolish homes and entire apartment blocks to create wide buffer zones between the Palestinians and the Israeli troops that ring Gaza. I have interviewed the destitute and homeless families, some camped out in crude shelters erected in the rubble. The destruction becomes the demolition of the homes of terrorists. I have stood in the remains of schools — Israel struck two United Nations schools in the last six days, causing at least 10 fatalitiesat one in Rafah on Sunday and at least 19 at one in the Jebaliya refugee camp Wednesday — as well as medical clinics and mosques. I have heard Israel claim that errant rockets or mortar fire from the Palestinians caused these and other deaths, or that the attacked spots were being used as arms depots or launching sites. I, along with every other reporter I know who has worked in Gaza, have never seen any evidence that Hamas uses civilians as “human shields.”
Why Israel Lies

they lie

That's one journalist. Albeit a Pulitzer Prize one. But one that just DECLARES that Hamas is innocent of hiding in Hospitals and UN schools. I think it's pretty established that they DO and this journalist just wants to write a "script" -- not an actual balanced story of the conflict.

For every rock throwing incident -- there's a prequel. And a lot of actions that can't be interpreted by just dropping in and standing there. When you put your children into the streets to make your "war" for you -- bad things will happen. For GENERATIONS -- if the Palestinians continue to focus on the demise of Israel and NOT the CREATION of Palestine.

I agree... I'm just wondering why an article about a terrorist organization like Hamas that uses children as human shields has to be "balanced".

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

 

[flacaltenn]

Israel engages in the kinds of jaw-dropping lies that characterize despotic and totalitarian regimes. It does not deform the truth; it inverts it. It routinely paints a picture for the outside world that is diametrically opposed to reality. And all of us reporters who have covered the occupied territories have run into Israel’s Alice-in-Wonderland narratives, which we dutifully insert into our stories — required under the rules of American journalism — although we know they are untrue.

I saw small boys baited and killed by Israeli soldiers in the Gaza refugee camp of Khan Younis. The soldiers swore at the boys in Arabic over the loudspeakers of their armored jeep. The boys, about 10 years old, then threw stones at an Israeli vehicle and the soldiers opened fire, killing some, wounding others. I was present more than once as Israeli troops drew out and shot Palestinian children in this way. Such incidents, in the Israeli lexicon, become children caught in crossfire. I was in Gaza when F-16 attack jets dropped 1,000-pound iron fragmentation bombs on overcrowded hovels in Gaza City. I saw the corpses of the victims, including children. This became a surgical strike on a bomb-making factory. I have watched Israel demolish homes and entire apartment blocks to create wide buffer zones between the Palestinians and the Israeli troops that ring Gaza. I have interviewed the destitute and homeless families, some camped out in crude shelters erected in the rubble. The destruction becomes the demolition of the homes of terrorists. I have stood in the remains of schools — Israel struck two United Nations schools in the last six days, causing at least 10 fatalitiesat one in Rafah on Sunday and at least 19 at one in the Jebaliya refugee camp Wednesday — as well as medical clinics and mosques. I have heard Israel claim that errant rockets or mortar fire from the Palestinians caused these and other deaths, or that the attacked spots were being used as arms depots or launching sites. I, along with every other reporter I know who has worked in Gaza, have never seen any evidence that Hamas uses civilians as “human shields.”
Why Israel Lies

they lie

That's one journalist. Albeit a Pulitzer Prize one. But one that just DECLARES that Hamas is innocent of hiding in Hospitals and UN schools. I think it's pretty established that they DO and this journalist just wants to write a "script" -- not an actual balanced story of the conflict.

For every rock throwing incident -- there's a prequel. And a lot of actions that can't be interpreted by just dropping in and standing there. When you put your children into the streets to make your "war" for you -- bad things will happen. For GENERATIONS -- if the Palestinians continue to focus on the demise of Israel and NOT the CREATION of Palestine.

I agree... I'm just wondering why an article about a terrorist organization like Hamas that uses children as human shields has to be "balanced".

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

These are simply transparent lies, which have the effect of saying considerably more about those employing them than their intended target. The IDF rules of engagement make no distinction between combatants and civilians---they deliberately target children!! If you wan to whine and moan about Hamas take it to the Israeli officials who politically sponsored and financed the Islamic group against the secular---and increasingly moderate PLO!!!

You're not gonna get any traction with blanket propaganda statements like "Israel makes no distinction............." You may not LIKE the results of fighting in urban settings. But clearly, Israel gets on the PHONE to residents of Gaza warning them to evacuate before strikes with significant odds of civilian casualties.

Take a look at the carnage in Syria. More than 4 of their largest cities reduced to piles of rubble. COMPLETE and UTTER devastation. Can't find a livable block in any of those places anymore. THAT -- is civil war -- "Arab style"...

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

That's one journalist. Albeit a Pulitzer Prize one. But one that just DECLARES that Hamas is innocent of hiding in Hospitals and UN schools. I think it's pretty established that they DO and this journalist just wants to write a "script" -- not an actual balanced story of the conflict.

For every rock throwing incident -- there's a prequel. And a lot of actions that can't be interpreted by just dropping in and standing there. When you put your children into the streets to make your "war" for you -- bad things will happen. For GENERATIONS -- if the Palestinians continue to focus on the demise of Israel and NOT the CREATION of Palestine.

I agree... I'm just wondering why an article about a terrorist organization like Hamas that uses children as human shields has to be "balanced".

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was founded on

That's one journalist. Albeit a Pulitzer Prize one. But one that just DECLARES that Hamas is innocent of hiding in Hospitals and UN schools. I think it's pretty established that they DO and this journalist just wants to write a "script" -- not an actual balanced story of the conflict.

For every rock throwing incident -- there's a prequel. And a lot of actions that can't be interpreted by just dropping in and standing there. When you put your children into the streets to make your "war" for you -- bad things will happen. For GENERATIONS -- if the Palestinians continue to focus on the demise of Israel and NOT the CREATION of Palestine.

I agree... I'm just wondering why an article about a terrorist organization like Hamas that uses children as human shields has to be "balanced".

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

 

[Weatherman2020]

I agree... I'm just wondering why an article about a terrorist organization like Hamas that uses children as human shields has to be "balanced".

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was founded on

I agree... I'm just wondering why an article about a terrorist organization like Hamas that uses children as human shields has to be "balanced".

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

Israel has Iron Dome and Hamas uses hospitals and schools to launch missiles targeting civilians from.

Any other questions?

I have one for you.

Why haven’t you been inside the West Bank yet?

 

[flacaltenn]

I agree... I'm just wondering why an article about a terrorist organization like Hamas that uses children as human shields has to be "balanced".

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was founded on

I agree... I'm just wondering why an article about a terrorist organization like Hamas that uses children as human shields has to be "balanced".

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was founded on

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

Well, people do tend to defend their land from invaders.
Crazy Horse's forces could've been considered similar.

Guess who invaded the land of Palestine mostly in the 1940's?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was founded on

Because -- Hamas in Gaza has chosen to fight in densely packed city centers. AND for any military, there are miscalculations, bad intel, bad mistakes that will be made. They shouldn't be hidden. Not if they are OURS in the US or for Israel. Even if Israel takes precautions, there will be still be stories making them look reckless and careless.

If Hamas wants to provoke military encounters by firing missiles into Israel -- they should USE some of that concrete and building material for bomb shelters and "civilian safe zones". But they won't. The resultant civilian casualties are part of their planning.

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

Why haven’t you been inside the West Bank yet?

Why haven't you crossed from Gaza to the Buffer Zone at Israel?
Maybe because Israelis would shoot at you?

 

[Weatherman2020]

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was founded on

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

Well, people do tend to defend their land from invaders.
Crazy Horse's forces could've been considered similar.

Guess who invaded the land of Palestine mostly in the 1940's?

Arabs looking for work were the biggest immigrants.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

You do understand that Israel was founded on
You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

Well, people do tend to defend their land from invaders.
Crazy Horse's forces could've been considered similar.

Guess who invaded the land of Palestine mostly in the 1940's?

Arabs looking for work were the biggest immigrants.

Oh really?
Is that why the Jewish percentage demographic grew tremendously during the 20th century in present Israel?

 

[Weatherman2020]

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was founded on

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

Why haven’t you been inside the West Bank yet?

Why haven't you crossed from Gaza to the Buffer Zone at Israel?
Maybe because Israelis would shoot at you?

No, Pals would.

So why haven’t you been to the West Bank? Afraid?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

Well, people do tend to defend their land from invaders.
Crazy Horse's forces could've been considered similar.

Guess who invaded the land of Palestine mostly in the 1940's?

Arabs looking for work were the biggest immigrants.

Oh really?
Is that why the Jewish percentage demographic grew tremendously during the 20th century in present Israel?

You really do need to study the topic before posting.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

You do understand that Israel was founded on
You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

Why haven’t you been inside the West Bank yet?

Why haven't you crossed from Gaza to the Buffer Zone at Israel?
Maybe because Israelis would shoot at you?

No, Pals would.

So why haven’t you been to the West Bank? Afraid?

Israelis buffer zone at Gaza is clearly outrageous.

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[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

Well, people do tend to defend their land from invaders.
Crazy Horse's forces could've been considered similar.

Guess who invaded the land of Palestine mostly in the 1940's?

Arabs looking for work were the biggest immigrants.

Oh really?
Is that why the Jewish percentage demographic grew tremendously during the 20th century in present Israel?

You really do need to study the topic before posting.

No you do, demographics aren't on your side.

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

 

[flacaltenn]

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was founded on

all true.... which is why one doesn't have to be "balanced" in talking about terrorists like Hamas. sometimes it's ok to take a side... like with nazis and terrorists.

You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

Well, people do tend to defend their land from invaders.
Crazy Horse's forces could've been considered similar.

Guess who invaded the land of Palestine mostly in the 1940's?

Do they DISCOURAGE their civilians from fleeing or deny them civil defense bunkers when they intend to START hostilities? The topic is whether Israel lies about their military operations and tactics. Comparing Palestinians to the Crazy Horse tribe might be cute -- but it's kinda degrading to the Palestinians.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

You do understand that Israel was founded on
You do understand that Israel was literally founded on terrorism right???? Every Israeli leader was a terrorist and nothing these vipers have done in the time since has deviated one iota from their cowardly commitment to state-sanctioned terror...your moral hypocrisy seems to compete with your elective ignorance...

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

Well, people do tend to defend their land from invaders.
Crazy Horse's forces could've been considered similar.

Guess who invaded the land of Palestine mostly in the 1940's?

Do they DISCOURAGE their civilians from fleeing or deny them civil defense bunkers when they intend to START hostilities? The topic is whether Israel lies about their military operations and tactics. Comparing Palestinians to the Crazy Horse tribe might be cute -- but it's kinda degrading to the Palestinians.

If Israel's Iron Dome is so effective, then shelling schools, hospitals, and powerplants is clearly overkill.
Which the 2014 conflict was overkill on Israel's part.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Oh look, the racist is proclaiming terrorism is evil.
While he justifies targeting civilians to be murdered.

Why is it 1,000 Palestinian civilians, were killed, and just 6 Israeli civilians were killed in the last major conflict between the 2?

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

Well, people do tend to defend their land from invaders.
Crazy Horse's forces could've been considered similar.

Guess who invaded the land of Palestine mostly in the 1940's?

Do they DISCOURAGE their civilians from fleeing or deny them civil defense bunkers when they intend to START hostilities? The topic is whether Israel lies about their military operations and tactics. Comparing Palestinians to the Crazy Horse tribe might be cute -- but it's kinda degrading to the Palestinians.

If Israel's Iron Dome is so effective, then shelling schools, hospitals, and powerplants is clearly overkill.
Which the 2014 conflict was overkill on Israel's part.

Defending targeting civilians and using civilians as human shields, how leftist of you.

 

[Weatherman2020]

First off -- we don't KNOW the identities of those "civilians".. Are political operatives,political leadership, security police, civilian bomb makers all considered CIVILIAN? It's not that simple when you're dealing with Hamas. Those rockets might not be launched completely by "military assets" of Hamas. It's EASY to be called a "civilian casualty" when indeed MANY civilians are terrorists and embedded Hamas assets.

Second -- they attacked Israeli civilians with bad "calculus". Their rockets suck and the Israelis have the capability to DEFEND THEIR CITIZENS. Israelis run to bomb shelters when the rockets come in. Gazans were given no place to run to. In fact -- they were ENCOURAGED to NOT evacuate and to stay in place.

There ya go...

Well, people do tend to defend their land from invaders.
Crazy Horse's forces could've been considered similar.

Guess who invaded the land of Palestine mostly in the 1940's?

Arabs looking for work were the biggest immigrants.

Oh really?
Is that why the Jewish percentage demographic grew tremendously during the 20th century in present Israel?

You really do need to study the topic before posting.

No you do, demographics aren't on your side.

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

Give me a minute to change that wiki page.