Zone1 Why is that the police hesitate,

[beagle9]

Otherwise when it comes to ending a situation before it gets way out of hand or control ?

Watching all these police chase videos on YouTube, and it appears to me that many times they end up allowing a chase to ensue that could have been avoided or stopped quickly. WTH ?

Many times it appears that in the first part of the escape attempt, this is when the situation could have been stopped immediately or quickly before it gets way out of control.

Why is this such a volatile issue that never seems to get a better solution that is applied across the board ??
Now from a rolling pursuit in motion that's different, but many start from a stop and then flee situation.

Do you all see the same things in these YouTube video's when watching them ?

If an assailant runs away with a weapon in hand or after he just attacked the cops either on foot or with a vehicle, then why the hesitation before shooting the person even if he is running with his back turned ? I asked this question because if the person escapes with weapon in hand or with a deranged mind, then can't such a person endanger the public at large by attacking them also, and worse highjacking them also or kidnapping them and such ? So why take the chance ? Why the hesitation ?


Over and over I'm seeing cops being shot due to either poor judgement, poor training, "hesitation", and possible fear, but is it fear of retribution from a system bent towards the criminals instead of law and order ??

Some of these runners after endangering lives and the public at large, need their sorry aces kicked once the officer's catch their no good aces.


How this nation got to the point where the criminals have more rights and favorable status than the law and the victims is an amazing thing.

Is there no training to address these problems or is it all caused by political correctness or in these days wokeness ??

 

[BULLDOG]

Because they are cops. Not judge, jury, and executioner.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Otherwise when it comes to ending a situation before it gets way out of hand or control ?

Watching all these police chase videos on YouTube, and it appears to me that many times they end up allowing a chase to ensue that could have been avoided or stopped quickly. WTH ?

Many times it appears that in the first part of the escape attempt, this is when the situation could have been stopped immediately or quickly before it gets way out of control.

Why is this such a volatile issue that never seems to get a better solution that is applied across the board ??
Now from a rolling pursuit in motion that's different, but many start from a stop and then flee situation.

Do you all see the same things in these YouTube video's when watching them ?

If an assailant runs away with a weapon in hand or after he just attacked the cops either on foot or with a vehicle, then why the hesitation before shooting the person even if he is running with his back turned ? I asked this question because if the person escapes with weapon in hand or with a deranged mind, then can't such a person endanger the public at large by attacking them also, and worse highjacking them also or kidnapping them and such ? So why take the chance ? Why the hesitation ?


Over and over I'm seeing cops being shot due to either poor judgement, poor training, "hesitation", and possible fear, but is it fear of retribution from a system bent towards the criminals instead of law and order ??

Some of these runners after endangering lives and the public at large, need their sorry aces kicked once the officer's catch their no good aces.


How this nation got to the point where the criminals have more rights and favorable status than the law and the victims is an amazing thing.

Is there no training to address these problems or is it all caused by political correctness or in these days wokeness ??

1. Law enforcement personnel are TRAINED to initially "de-escalate" the situations they encounter, to prevent any loss of life.
2. No matter how much of a scumbag the person might be, those scumbags have family and friends who will almost always defend them and complain to the police, judges and politicians about how their favorite scumbag was treated and those agencies listen to them, especially the politicians who like to get elected.
3. This isn't the old west. As tempting as it is to just remove the criminal scumbags from the gene pool, we just can't.
What I REALLY hate about our criminal justice system is seeing these DA's and Judges keep giving criminals chance, after chance, after chance, after chance, allowing them to amass long rap sheets. If someone criminal repeatedly causes any victims, whether physically or financially, even if it isn't violent, that person should be declared a "habitual criminal" and placed in a prison for life. As to the number of violations to determine this, that should be set nationally. Perhaps six or ten as a baseline.

 

[1srelluc]

1. Law enforcement personnel are TRAINED to initially "de-escalate" the situations they encounter, to prevent any loss of life.
2. No matter how much of a scumbag the person might be, those scumbags have family and friends who will almost always defend them and complain to the police, judges and politicians about how their favorite scumbag was treated and those agencies listen to them, especially the politicians who like to get elected.
3. This isn't the old west. As tempting as it is to just remove the criminal scumbags from the gene pool, we just can't.
What I REALLY hate about our criminal justice system is seeing these DA's and Judges keep giving criminals chance, after chance, after chance, after chance, allowing them to amass long rap sheets. If someone criminal repeatedly causes any victims, whether physically or financially, even if it isn't violent, that person should be declared a "habitual criminal" and placed in a prison for life. As to the number of violations to determine this, that should be set nationally. Perhaps six or ten as a baseline.

Virginia has a mandatory three strike rule, your third violent felony got you life.

It was also why you started to see so many charges being pleaded down.

That said it is a deterrence as I've heard many convicts talk about the fear of it.

The Commonwealth of Virginia has what is known as the “three strikes” law (Virginia Code Section 19.2-297.1), which applies specifically to violent felony offenses. If a person has twice been previously convicted of a violent felony crime and is convicted a third time (or more), then according to the law, the individual must be sentenced to life in prison.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Normal police officers are conscious of not just their authority but the rights of the perpetrator along with the safety of the public. Their job is to enforce the law but not at ALL costs and endangering the public or violating the laws or the U.S. constitution in the process of capturing someone who doesn't want to be taken into custody has to be taken into consideration.

It is NOT legal to shoot a person in the back, because deadly force is only supposed to be used to neutralize an eminent threat of grievous bodily harm or death and a person fleeing is no longer considered a legal threat in most circumstances.

Chasing them can put a lot of innocent lives at risk and they have to weigh all of this, sometimes in a split second.

 

[beagle9]

Normal police officers are conscious of not just their authority but the rights of the perpetrator along with the safety of the public. Their job is to enforce the law but not at ALL costs and endangering the public or violating the laws or the U.S. constitution in the process of capturing someone who doesn't want to be taken into custody has to be taken into consideration.

It is NOT legal to shoot a person in the back, because deadly force is only supposed to be used to neutralize an eminent threat of grievous bodily harm or death and a person fleeing is no longer considered a legal threat in most circumstances.

Chasing them can put a lot of innocent lives at risk and they have to weigh all of this, sometimes in a split second.

Understood, but in the case of the perp attempting to run after assaulting a police officer, and then showing himself to be a threat not only to the police but to the public as well, then that perp should be stopped by gunfire before leaving the scene if trying to escape after using violent force in the attempt to escape. A long time ago I remember a perp trying to wrestle the gun from an officer unsuccessfully, and then the perp attempted to flee when the officer shot him before he could escape to possibly pose a threat to the public at large. The officer went to jail due to the pressure of being tried first in the court of public opinion that reverberate into his trial. Now if the perp in his escape would have carjacked a mother and her baby, and placed them in extreme danger before being captured again, it would have all been shoved under a rug.

Seems when watching all these cop video's, that we now have a huge problem in discernment between criminal supposed rights and the rights of the innocent public.