Zone1 Why do you think that the FBI, CIA and NSA recruit Mormons?

[DennisPTate]

Why does the FBI, CIA and NSA recruit Mormons?

Is it mainly because they tend to have a second or third language from their foreign missionary days?

Or is it because Latter day Saints tend to be a whole lot like Mr. Charlie Kirk who clearly was willing to die for his beliefs?

I heard an amazing interview a few days ago that if I can find it fits perfectly with this topic.

The CIA and the FBI have Mormon recruitment programs.​

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On that note I personally have my own little conspiracy in mind that I feel I must divulge free of charge to anybody who will do their homework.

Thread 'A Utah State currency and preventing the 2026 to 2036 Bear Market?'

Nov 28, 2025

There is a rather old Latter day Saint prediction that I believe could be useful over the coming decade in preventing a Bear Market as well as the "Dystopian Nightmare" predicted by the rather brilliant Mo Gawdat?


Could a Utah State Volunteerism Dollar and - or a Utah State Volunteerism Hour alternative currency note be used to flip Wall Street and the T. S. E. away from Pessimism and toward Optimism?


President Trump may not like this idea though because Mr. Mitt Romney and him have NOT been on the best of terms but it is obvious that President Donald J. Trump is in a position to...

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[Seymour Flops]

They have learned a foreigned language and have knocked on doors in other countries to recruit foreigners. The same skill can be used to recruit foreigners as intelligence sources.

 

[GLASNOST]

Why does the FBI, CIA and NSA recruit Mormons?

Because they believe that Martians are going to save the earth just as soon as the Kolobians pay their taxes.

 

[leftwinger]

Because they clock out at 5PM no matter what never costing OT?

 

[DennisPTate]

They have learned a foreigned language and have knocked on doors in other countries to recruit foreigners. The same skill can be used to recruit foreigners as intelligence sources.

Well said, I have met with perhaps fourteen Latter day Saint Elders, [as well as Sisters by video during C o v i d 1 9]. I was truly impressed by them. In almost every first meeting I asked them what they personally thought of the near death experience account of little Colton Burpo. They were all on the same page as me and we all felt that Colton Burpo was doing his best to talk about his experience that in many ways defied mere words.

Then I asked them what they thought of Pastor Todd Burpo, and again they were in agreement with me that Pastor Todd Burpo had shown exceptional intellectual and moral courage and humility to listen to his little son when he was four, five, six, seven and eight, as Colton lectured his dad on topics on Theology that Pastor Todd Burpo was supposedly an expert on.

In my opinion Latter day Saints tend to be the most articulate and well read Christians that I have ever met. Mormons are not afraid of new and confusing information. They will fit everything into their world view.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Their background doesn't matter as long as they are the best and the brightest, the most loyal and sober. Hearing from former CIA on youtube etc I'd say they have a hit and miss rate with choosing the best and brightest, most competent.

You need a variety of people certainly so there isn't a "one size fits all"

The fight for the West is real. Either China or America will win, it cannot be both anymore than it could have been both vs the USSR. China is a much more formidable across a wider scope.

 

[DennisPTate]

Because they believe that Martians are going to save the earth just as soon as the Kolobians pay their taxes.

So, from your sarcastic answer, I might guess that you are perhaps high ranking CIA and you know that astonishing technology is hidden underground under Utah. I am honored to meet you Sir! [My humble apologies if I have totally messed up your psychological profile that I tend to do just on a few sentences by a writer]?!


More information on this general idea:

Thread 'Is the seeming dump of information about UFO and alien technology largely true?'

Nov 28, 2025

I personally am of the belief that there is a huge amount of truth in what appears to be a massive dump of information related to the topic of UFO's or alien technology that has been coming out over these past few months.

I believe that there are people who want to get us into fear over this information so that we will gladly finance investing in the type of technology that could be useful against what may well be technology far beyond our own, but that does not negate the fact that a lot of this information is the most logical and reasonable larger truth when all the evidence is...

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[DennisPTate]

Their background doesn't matter as long as they are the best and the brightest, the most loyal and sober. Hearing from former CIA on youtube etc I'd say they have a hit and miss rate with choosing the best and brightest, most competent.

You need a variety of people certainly so there isn't a "one size fits all"

The fight for the West is real. Either China or America will win, it cannot be both anymore than it could have been both vs the USSR. China is a much more formidable across a wider scope.

Or perhaps as Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Garner Ted used to teach, a "United States of Europe" will rise rapidly and will surpass all other previous historical military super powers, [perhaps even including the USA]?

I personally am glad that Latter day Saints are being recruited to protect us.

Author John De Souza was some variation on Christian and his testimony about his own twenty five years in the FBI are fascinating. Many of his cases became the first season of the "X-Files."

 

[Auld Phart]

Why does the FBI, CIA and NSA recruit Mormons?

Is it mainly because they tend to have a second or third language from their foreign missionary days?

Or is it because Latter day Saints tend to be a whole lot like Mr. Charlie Kirk who clearly was willing to die for his beliefs?

I heard an amazing interview a few days ago that if I can find it fits perfectly with this topic.

Michael Franzese

Welcome! For those who don't know me, I'm Michael. I was a former capo for the Colombo crime family back in the 1980s & best known for being one of the top money earners for the mob since Al Capone. Fortunately, I've been able to walk away from that life and reinvent myself (unlike many of my...

www.youtube.com

On that note I personally have my own little conspiracy in mind that I feel I must divulge free of charge to anybody who will do their homework.

Thread 'A Utah State currency and preventing the 2026 to 2036 Bear Market?'

Nov 28, 2025

There is a rather old Latter day Saint prediction that I believe could be useful over the coming decade in preventing a Bear Market as well as the "Dystopian Nightmare" predicted by the rather brilliant Mo Gawdat?


Could a Utah State Volunteerism Dollar and - or a Utah State Volunteerism Hour alternative currency note be used to flip Wall Street and the T. S. E. away from Pessimism and toward Optimism?


President Trump may not like this idea though because Mr. Mitt Romney and him have NOT been on the best of terms but it is obvious that President Donald J. Trump is in a position to...

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they bring a little bit extra to wife swapping parties.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... I might guess that you are perhaps high ranking CIA and you know that astonishing technology is hidden underground under Utah.

As a high ranking agent I am not at liberty to divulge, confirm, or deny any information pertaining to what sort of technology is being discussed nor what state neither where in the unmentioned state it is located.

I am honored to meet you Sir!

You are very kind to say so. Thank you very much.

My humble apologies if I have totally messed up your psychological profile that I tend to do just on a few sentences by a writer

No harm has been done.

 

[DennisPTate]

As a high ranking agent I am not at liberty to divulge, confirm, or deny any information pertaining to what sort of technology is being discussed nor what state neither where in the unmentioned state it is located.

You are very kind to say so. Thank you very much.

No harm has been done.

Awesome answer!

Sometimes one of the best ways to get a really good idea to be taken seriously is to disguise it as humor or satire but as they read and dig further they begin to say...... hey wait....... this could be true?

I would be honored to have your reaction to this one:

Thread 'Should we Canadians apologize to the USA for how we acted from 1740 to 1775?'

Dec 11, 2025

I believe that we Canadians owe the United States an apology for how our ancestors treated our ally The United States from 1740 to 1775. It is my belief that the exaggerated obedience of Canadian elected officials to London made the American Revolutionary War almost impossible to avoid.

In our defence it is likely that an astonishing small number of our ancestors actually understood how Compound Interest Over Time was being implemented in order to turn American citizens into economic slaves who would run endlessly on an allegorical economic treadmill?

[Alain Pilote, The History of...

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[DennisPTate]

They have learned a foreigned language and have knocked on doors in other countries to recruit foreigners. The same skill can be used to recruit foreigners as intelligence sources.

Latter day Saints as well as essentially everybody in the State of Utah are uniquely prepared at this time to assist in bringing genuine Shalom to the Middle East.

Latter day Saints tend to read voraciously.....
Mormons will not find a mere three pages scary......

Thread 'God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land by near death experiencer Robert Mendelson.'

Dec 23, 2025

God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land by near death experiencer Robert Mendelson has already been translated into both Arabic as well as Hebrew from the original English.

I have spoken to Robert by phone and he speaks and writes like somebody who has multiple doctoral degrees. For example he could debate History, Economics, Spirituality, Philosophy and the subject of bringing Shalom to the Middle East with doctoral level professionals in all of those fields.

http://godspeaceplan.org/books-download-page/

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[Cellblock2429]

Why does the FBI, CIA and NSA recruit Mormons?

Is it mainly because they tend to have a second or third language from their foreign missionary days?

Or is it because Latter day Saints tend to be a whole lot like Mr. Charlie Kirk who clearly was willing to die for his beliefs?

I heard an amazing interview a few days ago that if I can find it fits perfectly with this topic.

Michael Franzese

Welcome! For those who don't know me, I'm Michael. I was a former capo for the Colombo crime family back in the 1980s & best known for being one of the top money earners for the mob since Al Capone. Fortunately, I've been able to walk away from that life and reinvent myself (unlike many of my...

www.youtube.com

On that note I personally have my own little conspiracy in mind that I feel I must divulge free of charge to anybody who will do their homework.

Thread 'A Utah State currency and preventing the 2026 to 2036 Bear Market?'

Nov 28, 2025

There is a rather old Latter day Saint prediction that I believe could be useful over the coming decade in preventing a Bear Market as well as the "Dystopian Nightmare" predicted by the rather brilliant Mo Gawdat?


Could a Utah State Volunteerism Dollar and - or a Utah State Volunteerism Hour alternative currency note be used to flip Wall Street and the T. S. E. away from Pessimism and toward Optimism?


President Trump may not like this idea though because Mr. Mitt Romney and him have NOT been on the best of terms but it is obvious that President Donald J. Trump is in a position to...

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/—-/ Casinos hire Mormons because they don’t drink, smoke, do drugs, gamble or steal.

 

[DennisPTate]

/—-/ Casinos hire Mormons because they don’t drink, smoke, do drugs, gamble or steal.

EXACTLY!!!!

In my opinion the owners of casinos could play a critical role in future events because people who own casinos are just about the only type of people who have the courage to go up against what Sir Winston Churchill termed The High Cabal.

Near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava terms them The Eruv Rav.

 

[GLASNOST]

Latter day Saints as well as essentially everybody in the State of Utah are uniquely prepared at this time to assist in bringing genuine Shalom to the Middle East.

Well, I am one of the many who read true crime reports and it seems to me that a whole lot of Mormons are murdering their families and neighbours for reasons of jealousy, infidelity, and for the insurance money. Even (or particularly) the devout ones. You could say that fact doesn’t disqualify them from being, “uniquely prepared … to assist in bringing genuine Shalom to the Middle East“, but I say that it does. You might equally say that it is prejudiced of me to single the Mormons out as murderers but I can say the same about you singling them out as emissaries of “shalom”.

 

[DennisPTate]

Well, I am one of the many who read true crime reports and it seems to me that a whole lot of Mormons are murdering their families and neighbours for reasons of jealousy, infidelity, and for the insurance money. Even (or particularly) the devout ones. You could say that fact doesn’t disqualify them from being, “uniquely prepared … to assist in bringing genuine Shalom to the Middle East“, but I say that it does. You might equally say that it is prejudiced of me to single the Mormons out as murderers but I can say the same about you singling them out as emissaries of “shalom”.

Even extreme trends like this will not stop a remnant of Latter day Saints from being chosen for a special purpose that could remind us of the Rechabites who the Prophet Jeremiah had been sent to.

 

[onefour1]

Our Articles of Faith are as follows:

The Articles of Faith​

Chapter 1

1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

2 We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

5 We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

6 We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

7 We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith.

Maybe among these articles of faith, there are attributes that the FBI, CIA and NSA see as attributes they would want among their staff. Also it may be that they have proven in the past to be excellent employees for these positions and thus the FBI, CIA and NSA tend to gravitate toward them.

 

[DennisPTate]

Our Articles of Faith are as follows:

The Articles of Faith​

Chapter 1

1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

2 We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

5 We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

6 We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

7 We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith.

Maybe among these articles of faith, there are attributes that the FBI, CIA and NSA see as attributes they would want among their staff. Also it may be that they have proven in the past to be excellent employees for these positions and thus the FBI, CIA and NSA tend to gravitate toward them.

I guess number five is where I somewhat go off in my own direction.

5 We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

I feel a responsibility to get into many topics and subjects because I know that I know that I am attempting to be honest in my analysis. That is why I stick for Latter day Saints as being my Brethren in Messiah Yeshua - Jesus. That position by me has gotten me kicked off a large Christian discussion forum, twice.

I know that because I write on many topics I will answer to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus for every word that I write here as well as on other forums.

I am responsible to show courage and write the truth even if nobody agrees with me.

 

[GLASNOST]

... it seems to me that a whole lot of Mormons are murdering their families and neighbours for reasons of jealousy, infidelity, and for the insurance money. Even (or particularly) the devout ones. You could say that fact doesn’t disqualify them from being, “uniquely prepared … to assist in bringing genuine Shalom to the Middle East“, but I say that it does. ....

Even extreme trends like this will not stop a remnant of Latter day Saints from being chosen for a special purpose that could remind us of the Rechabites who the Prophet Jeremiah had been sent to.

I am no expert on the subject but Mormons can be (and are) eager to put on a uniform to go out killing people for national-political reasons. I know this because my brother and his family are Mormons and their son (my nephew) is now a young, volunteer elite soldier claiming he is prepared to "fight for his country". I am an Agnostic and, if there is a God, I firmly disbelieve that any supreme being recognises political boundaries. As I said, I am an Agnostic and what I just wrote may be the only thing I am truly convinced of. So, there it is: I have just answered your OP question, "Why do you think that the FBI, CIA and NSA recruit Mormons?" In other words Mormons are willing to kill for monetary gain (as individuals) and for political purposes (in the broadest sense).

 

[DennisPTate]

I am no expert on the subject but Mormons can be (and are) eager to put on a uniform to go out killing people for national-political reasons. I know this because my brother and his family are Mormons and their son (my nephew) is now a young, volunteer elite soldier claiming he is prepared to "fight for his country". I am an Agnostic and, if there is a God, I firmly disbelieve that any supreme being recognises political boundaries. As I said, I am an Agnostic and what I just wrote may be the only thing I am truly convinced of. So, there it is: I have just answered your OP question, "Why do you think that the FBI, CIA and NSA recruit Mormons?" In other words Mormons are willing to kill for monetary gain (as individuals) and for political purposes (in the broadest sense).

I am on a somewhat different page than you are when it comes to the topic of a true Christian getting trained and being willing to defend others who cannot easily defend themselves, [even on the Sabbath]?

"And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace." [Mark 3:4]

.... "Did Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus back up the Machabees in their decision to fight back, even on the Sabbath, if Jews were attacked by Greco-Syrian armies on the Sabbath?

Are there any ways in which this question could be applicable to moder events, such as The Yom Kippur War for example"

Was Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus, [Isa the Prophet, peace be upon Him, to Muslims], saying that a police officer or soldier is free to take a life in defence of an innocent person, even on the Sabbath?

Yes, that is exactly what i think He was saying!


I believe that my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, so I go online and fight and fight and fight against ignorance and false ideas every Sabbath.

Shabbat Shalom!"

[I Book of Machabees, chapter two] :

And it was told to the king's men, and to the army that was in Jerusalem in the city of David, that certain men who had broken the king's commandment, were gone away into the secret places in the wilderness, and that many were gone after them. 32 And forthwith they went out towards them, and made war against them on the sabbath day, 33 And they said to them: Do you still resist? come forth, and do according to the edict of king Antiochus, and you shall live. 34 And they said: We will not come forth, neither will we obey the king's edict, to profane the sabbath day. 35 And they made haste to give them battle.

36 But they answered them not, neither did they cast a stone at them, nor stopped up the secret places, 37 Saying: Let us all die in our innocency: and heaven and earth shall be witnesses for us, that you put us to death wrongfully. 38 So they gave them battle on the sabbath: and they were slain with their wives, and their children, and their cattle, to the number of a thousand persons. 39 And Mathathias and his friends heard of it, and they mourned for them exceedingly. 40 And every man said to his neighbour: If we shall all do as our brethren have done, and not fight against the heathens for our lives, and our justifications: they will now quickly root us out of the earth.

41 And they determined in that day, saying: Whosoever shall come up against us to fight on the sabbath day, we will fight against him: and we will not all die, as our brethren that were slain in the secret places. 42 Then was assembled to them the congregation of the Assideans, the stoutest of Israel, every one that had a good will for the law. 43 And all they that fled from the evils, joined themselves to them, and were a support to them. 44 And they gathered an army, and slew the sinners in their wrath, and the wicked men in their indignation: and the rest fled to the nations for safety. 45 And Mathathias and his friends went round about, and they threw down the altars:

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Zone1 Thread '"Is it lawful on the Sabbath, to save life or to kill? [Rabbi Yeshua]'

Nov 22, 2025

Did Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus back up the Machabees in their decision to fight back, even on the Sabbath, if Jews were attacked by Greco-Syrian armies on the Sabbath?

Are there any ways in which this question could be applicable to moder events, such as The Yom Kippur War for example"

Was Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus, [Isa the Prophet, peace be upon Him, to Muslims], saying that a police officer or soldier is free to take a life in defence of an innocent person, even on the Sabbath?

Yes, that is exactly what i think He was saying!


I believe that my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, so I...

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