Why Do Whites Think They Can Tell Us What The Problems in Black America Are?

[IM2]

You asked,…

Why Do Whites Think They Can Tell Us What The Problems in Black America Are?​

I suspect this will be a large waste of my time but I will try to answer your question.

Perhaps white people are trying to help blacks out by giving them advice as it seems black people are unable to fix their own problems.

My advice has always been to stop playing the victim card. Believe in yourself and your abilities, get a good education and then set out to succeed, When at first you fail don’t claim it’s all the white man’s fault. Pick yourself up and try, try again. That is what the white man does as he has no victim card to play,

One problem with my advice is it is hard to get a good education in the big cities run by Democrats. Many high school grads in cities like Baltimore can barely read, write or do simple math.

Baltimore IS a mess: Schools where NO kids can read, do math â and employees are ripping off taxpayers

Is this acceptable to Rep. Elijah Cummings? Or is it only unacceptable because President Trump is saying it?

www.newswars.com

You might consider putting your kids in a good private school like many white teachers do but I understand that might not be financially possible.

You might also consider raising absolute hell about the educational systems in your city if they suck as bad as Baltimore. YOU CAN’T SUCCEED IN THIS NATION WITHOUT AT LEAST A GOOD BASIC EDUCATION. I don’t mean you need a college education but just a good high school education like I had when I graduated in the mid 1960s in Ohio.

How about large peaceful demonstrations demanding better education for all our youth.

I have also advised blacks to develop their own political party. Just make damn sure it’s not run by people like Rev Al Sharpton. You don’t seem to understand the power such a party would have.

You also need to get rid of the “I am a slave” mentality and say “I am now a free man and I have unlimited opportunity.“

Black immigrants from Africa succeed. So can you. Believe in yourself.

Why do black African immigrants do better than American-born blacks?

Millions of sub-Saharan blacks seek to immigrate to America. They apparently haven’t gotten the memo that this is a wretched land of systemic anti-black racism. When they get here, they’re stranger…

theaspenbeat.com

Finally get the hell off the Democratic Plantation. Democrats are the most racist people in this nation today. For example Joe Biden:

Here's a Rundown of the 10 Worst Moments from Biden's Long History of Racially Charged Comments

Biden has a long history of making racially charged remarks, but we’ve found possibly the ten worst of them.

www.westernjournal.com

I understand you don’t trust Republicans so take my suggestion and form your own party. Find some honest blacks who refuse to engage in corruption to run it and you will have a better party than either the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. The leadership of both those Parties is corrupt.

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The root cause of our problem is white racism.This is documented. Delusional whites such as yourself don't seem to understand that. So then you start telling us about the problem racism has created for us as if racism doesn't exist. After that you try giving us suggestions as to solve the problem without addressing the root cause of the problem. Look at the garbage you posted, and in the end what's your solution?

The only victims are whites in here whining about how unfair things are for whites. So stop being white trying to tell me that legitimate grievances is whining. Putting our kids in private schools ain't the answer. Take money out of our bloatrd military and put it in education, then change funding formulas. There is no slave mentality among blacks. Whites like you simply need to face the truth.

 

[IM2]

The Tulsa Race Massacre..

The Tulsa Race Massacre was real. And all the race riots were done by the immigrants you talk about

 

[Batcat]

The root cause of our problem is white racism.This is documented. Delusional whites such as yourself don't seem to understand that. So then you start telling us about the problem racism has created for us as if racism doesn't exist. After that you try giving us suggestions as to solve the problem without addressing the root cause of the problem. Look at the garbage you posted, and in the end what's your solution?

The only victims are whites in here whining about how unfair things are for whites. So stop being white trying to tell me that legitimate grievances is whining. Putting our kids in private schools ain't the answer. Take money out of our bloatrd military and put it in education, then change funding formulas. There is no slave mentality among blacks. Whites like you simply need to face the truth.

The root cause of your problems is you love of playing the victim card. Crying that everything is always the white man’s fault will do nothing to change things.

I have never said things are unfair for whites. I have said that if we fail we have no victim card to play and that itself liberates us. If we fail often we analyze what was wrong with our approach and try to correct that problem and then we try again. If we refuse to do that we simply fail and live with our failure. If we whine about our failure people look down on us just as you did in your reply.

Start defunding the military in this world and we will end up under the thumb of the Chinese or the Russians. Is our military bloated? Yes. But perhaps it is better to have a bloated military and our nation than lose all freedom and be forced to work for a dictator.

 

[Turtlesoup]

The Tulsa Race Massacre..

The TULSA RACE MASSACRE was what Otto?

It was simply a black gangster/pimp who owned a gambling hotel/speakeasy and some high crime property trying to get one of his black criminal lackey's off a rape charge. He organized his criminal enterprise to attack a police station to free the rapist---the whites and NON criminal blacks fought back and burned down the high crime area that the gangster controlled forcing the gangster and his criminals out of the area and back to the northern carpet bagger homes.

It was a successful operation to remove the criminal crime element----I think Chicago, Portland, and other areas should try it.

 

[IM2]

The root cause of your problems is you love of playing the victim card. Crying that everything is always the white man’s fault will do nothing to change things.

I have never said things are unfair for whites. I have said that if we fail we have no victim card to play and that itself liberates us. If we fail often we analyze what was wrong with our approach and try to correct that problem and then we try again. If we refuse to do that we simply fail and live with our failure. If we whine about our failure people look down on us just as you did in your reply.

Start defunding the military in this world and we will end up under the thumb of the Chinese or the Russians. Is our military bloated? Yes. But perhaps it is better to have a bloated military and our nation than lose all freedom and be forced to work for a dictator.

White boy, I know what the cause of the problems blacks face because I've faced them. I have a college education, never been close to going to prison, fathered no children out of wedlock, worked from the age of 9, and I can keep going. Yet I have to listen to the ignorant drivel from whites like you who assume things out of ignorance.

The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. Turn black, live 60 years then come back and tell me it isn't.

 

[Batcat]

White boy, I know what the cause of the problems blacks face because I've faced them. I have a college education, never been close to going to prison, fathered no children out of wedlock, worked from the age of 9, and I can keep going. Yet I have to listen to the ignorant drivel from whites like you who assume things out of ignorance.

The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. Turn black, live 60 years then come back and tell me it isn't.

Are you successful?

 

[MizMolly]

White boy, I know what the cause of the problems blacks face because I've faced them. I have a college education, never been close to going to prison, fathered no children out of wedlock, worked from the age of 9, and I can keep going. Yet I have to listen to the ignorant drivel from whites like you who assume things out of ignorance.

The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. Turn black, live 60 years then come back and tell me it isn't.

What you face isn’t racism. It’s your asshole attitude.

 

[Concerned American]

WTF is black America? There is only one America. The problem in America is all of these supposed divisions in America. If you want to see America rise to its former greatness, quit dividing it. You are either an AMERICAN or you're not. There is no black, white, yellow, brown, red, green or former ancestry America. People who divide America into groups are NOT Americans.

 

[horselightning]

WTF is black America? There is only one America. The problem in America is all of these supposed divisions in America. If you want to see America rise to its former greatness, quit dividing it. You are either an AMERICAN or you're not. There is no black, white, yellow, brown, red, green or former ancestry America. People who divide America into groups are NOT Americans.

you tell them

 

[sealybobo]

I mean really? What in the hell makes a group of people with a history of enslavement , genocide and apartheid in order to achieve what they have belive they have been so sucessful that they can lecture others. Without enslavement, genocide and aparthied, whites in America would have very little, if anything.

People in this forum have the opinion that blacks should do things like whites and if we do so, we can make it in America. So then what we need to do is orchestate a bloody coup, confiscate all property owned by whites, jail all whites who oppose the coup, write a new constitution that declare citizenship and it's protection only for non whites, make whites chattel for the forseeable future, make it illegal for whites to reald, own property or access information and create laws where if whites get out of line they can be beaten and killed.

Because this is how whites have done it.

In another forum, I stated that the root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. One of the whites there decided to say this:

“The root cause of the problems faced by most blacks today are people like you who misidentify or ignore the real problems they face to further their own personal agendas.”

This is another of the long, long line of idiotic comments made by right wing whites. White racism was determined to be the problem 53 years ago by the Kerner Commission.

"What white Americans have never fully understood but what the Negro can never forget--is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it."

"White racism is essentially responsible for the explosive mixture which has been accumulating in our cities since the end of World War II."

But the excuse will be made about how that was 50 years ago, and that stupid ass song will be sung titled, "That was in the Past."

On February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission findings, the Economic Policy Institute published a report evaluating the progress of the black community since the Kerner Report was released. It was based on a study done by the Economic Policy Institute that compared the progress of the black community in 2018 with the condition of the black community at the time of the Kerner Commission. Titled “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” the study concluded that there had been some improvements in the situation blacks faced but there were still disadvantages blacks faced that were based on race.

Following up on this, Richard Rothstein of the Economic Policy Institute wrote an op-ed published in the February 28th edition of the New York Daily News titled, “50 years after the Kerner Commission, minimal racial progress.” It had been 50 years since the commission made their recommendations at that point, yet Rothstein makes this statement: “So little has changed since 1968 that the report remains worth reading as a near-contemporary description of racial inequality.”

So 3 years ago the same conclusion was made. "The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism."

On October 24, 2013, the Kellogg Foundation sent out a press release about a report they had done entitled, “The Business Case for Racial Equity”. This was a study done by the Kellogg Foundation, using information it had studied and assessed from the Center for American Progress, National Urban League Policy Institute, Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies and the U.S. Department of Justice.

“Striving for racial equity – a world where race is no longer a factor in the distribution of opportunity – is a matter of social justice. But moving toward racial equity can generate significant economic returns as well. When people face barriers to achieving their full potential, the loss of talent, creativity, energy, and productivity is a burden not only for those disadvantaged, but for communities, businesses, governments, and the economy as a whole. Initial research on the magnitude of this burden in the United States (U.S.), as highlighted in this brief, reveals impacts in the trillions of dollars in lost earnings, avoidable public expenditures, and lost economic output.”

The Kellogg Foundation and Altarum Institute

In 2011, DEMOS did a study named “The Racial Wealth Gap, Why Policy Matters”, which discussed the racial wealth gap, the problems associated with it along with solutions and outcomes if the gap did not exist. In this study DEMOS determined that the racial wealth gap was primarily driven by policy decisions.

“The U.S. racial wealth gap is substantial and is driven by public policy decisions. According to our analysis of the SIPP data, in 2011 the median white household had $111,146 in wealth holdings, compared to just $7,113 for the median Black household and $8,348 for the median Latino household. From the continuing impact of redlining on American homeownership to the retreat from desegregation in public education, public policy has shaped these disparities, leaving them impossible to overcome without racially-aware policy change.”

Harvard.

“Racial inequality in the United States today may, ultimately, be based on slavery, but it is also based on the failure of the country to take effective steps since slavery to undermine the structural racial inequality that slavery put in place. From the latter part of the nineteenth century through the first half of the twentieth century, the Jim Crow system continued to keep Blacks “in their place,” and even during and after the civil rights era no policies were adopted to dismantle the racial hierarchy that already existed.”

HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AS A BASIS FOR BLACK REPARATIONS, Jonathan Kaplan and Andrew Valls, Public Affairs Quarterly

Volume 21, Number 3, July 2007

McKinsey and Co.

“It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.”

Citigroup

Cost Of Racism: U.S. Economy Lost $16 Trillion Because Of Discrimination, Bank Says

Nationwide protests have cast a spotlight on racism and inequality in the United States. Now a major bank has put a price tag on how much the economy has lost as a result of discrimination against African Americans: $16 trillion.

Since 2000, U.S. gross domestic product lost that much as a result of discriminatory practices in a range of areas, including in education and access to business loans, according to a new study by Citigroup.

Specifically, the study came up with $16 trillion in lost GDP by noting four key racial gaps between African Americans and whites:

$13 trillion lost in potential business revenue because of discriminatory lending to African American entrepreneurs, with an estimated 6.1 million jobs not generated as a result

$2.7 trillion in income lost because of disparities in wages suffered by African Americans

$218 billion lost over the past two decades because of discrimination in providing housing credit

And $90 billion to $113 billion in lifetime income lost from discrimination in accessing higher education

Why this is just a bunch of liberal jibberish to to blacks in order to keep them voting democrat. Those aren't the problems, what we conservatives tell you is the real problem. Why if you just had a father in the home none of this would happen.

Black Workers Still Earn Less than Their White Counterparts

As employers in the U.S. tackle issues around racism, fresh attention is being given to the racial wage gap and why black men and women, in particular, still earn substantially less than their white counterparts. Nearly 56 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, "we find equal pay for equal work is still not a reality," noted Jackson Gruver, a data analyst at compensation data and software firm PayScale.

Last year, PayScale analyzed differences in earnings between white men and men of color using data from a sample of 1.8 million employees surveyed between January 2017 and February 2019.

Among the findings, Gruver reported: "Even as black or African-American men climb the corporate ladder, they still make less than equally qualified white men. They are the only racial/ethnic group that does not achieve pay parity with white men at some level."

The study found that black men had the largest "uncontrolled pay gap" relative to white men, when comparing the average earnings of black men and white men in the U.S.

On average, black men earned 87 cents for every dollar a white man earned. Hispanic workers had the next largest gap, earning 91 cents for every dollar earned by white men.

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To put that in perspective, the median salary of a white man in our sample is $72,900; the controlled median pay for black or African-American men is thus $71,500," Gruver said. "This suggests a $1,400 difference in pay that is likely attributable to race."

So daddy lives at home and the family still makes less than whites. Because:

NWLC calculations, based on the U.S. Census Bureau's Current Population Survey for 2016, revealed that when comparing all men and women who work full time, year-round in the U.S., women were paid just 80 cents for every dollar paid to their male counterparts. But the wage gap was even larger when looking specifically at black women who work full time, year-round—they were paid only 63 cents for every dollar paid to white, non-Hispanic men.

Stephen Miller, Black Workers Still Earn Less than Their White Counterparts, www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/compensation/pages/racial-wage-gaps-persistence-poses-challenge.aspx

So a white working couple will make 90 cents on every dollar while a black working couple makes 75 cents. To allow you to understand this reality a white female worker makes 80 cents on every dollar a white man makes. White females are demanding equal pay and rightfully so.

And you black folk really need to start taking education seriously.

Black unemployment is significantly higher than white unemployment regardless of educational attainment

The black unemployment rate is nearly or more than twice the white unemployment rate regardless of educational attainment. It is, and always has been, about twice the white unemployment rate; however, the depth of this racial inequality in the labor market rarely makes the headlines.

Over the last 12 months, the average unemployment rate for black college graduates has been 4.1 percent—nearly two times the average unemployment rate for white college graduates (2.4 percent) and equivalent to the unemployment rate of whites with an associate’s degree or who have not completed college (4.0 percent). The largest disparity is seen among those with less than a high school diploma: while whites with less than a high school diploma have an unemployment rate of 6.9 percent, the black unemployment rate is 16.6 percent—over two times the white average.

The broader significance of this disparity suggests a race penalty whereby blacks at each level of education have unemployment rates that are the same as or higher than less educated whites.

Valerie Wilson, Black unemployment is significantly higher than white unemployment regardless of educational attainment, www.epi.org/publication/black-unemployment-educational-attainment/

African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level

While the economy continues to improve and wages are finally beginning to inch up for most Americans, African Americans are still being paid less than whites at every education level. As you can see from the chart below, while a college education results in higher wages—both for whites and blacks—it does not eliminate the black-white wage gap. African Americans are still earning less than whites at every level of educational attainment. A recent EPI report, Black-white wage gaps expand with rising wage inequality, shows that this gap persists even after controlling for years of experience, region of the country, and whether one lives in an urban or rural area. In fact, since 1979, the gaps between black and white workers have grown the most among workers with a bachelor’s degree or higher—the most educated workers.

Valerie Wilson, African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level, www.epi.org/publication/african-americans-are-paid-less-than-whites-at-every-education-level/

But to say white racism is the cause of things no matter how much proof we show your white asses, you have some kind of idiotic ass excuse, like we are blaming whites for our failures or;

We misdiagnose and ignore the "real" problem to fit an imaginary agenda racists in tha white community invented so they can deny how THEY are the root cause of the problem.

You right wing scrubs are always talking about responsibility.

Take some instead of running your mouths.

When a guy like Jawan Howard who grew up in chicago acts the way he does, it gives us the opportunity to have a discussion. To look into his past and ask why he acted the way he did.
His mom Helena, who was 17 years old, did not want to be burdened raising her child, so Jannie Mae adopted him. His biological father, Leroy Watson Jr., wanted to name him Leroy Watson, III, but his grandmother rejected the suggestion, insisting on Juwan Antonio Howard. Although his mother visited on occasion as he was growing up, his grandmother raised him, along with two cousins. Howard has no siblings and is not close to his biological parents; his grandmother was the primary influence in his life. He moved with her to several low-income Chicago South Side projects

 

[sealybobo]

WTF is black America? There is only one America. The problem in America is all of these supposed divisions in America. If you want to see America rise to its former greatness, quit dividing it. You are either an AMERICAN or you're not. There is no black, white, yellow, brown, red, green or former ancestry America. People who divide America into groups are NOT Americans.

Your experiences with America are different than a poor kid growing up in Detroit. Maybe your policies work in Kansas but not in the D

 

[Woodznutz]

I get called a racist for pointing out facts.

I was banned from a forum for the same thing. I didn't break any forum rules per se, but they didn't like my 'style'.

 

[Woodznutz]

Take money out of our bloated military and put it in education, then change funding formulas.

Military service has been a leg up for thousands of black men that had few other choices.

Or use the money that now goes to law enforcement in your communities for improved education.

Blacks claim to want more law enforcement in their neighborhoods, then raise holy hell when the police show up to arrest a perp. Make up yer mind.

 

[Woodznutz]

White boy, I know what the cause of the problems blacks face because I've faced them. I have a college education, never been close to going to prison, fathered no children out of wedlock, worked from the age of 9, and I can keep going. Yet I have to listen to the ignorant drivel from whites like you who assume things out of ignorance.

The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. Turn black, live 60 years then come back and tell me it isn't.

Batcat beat me to the question but since you haven't responded I'll repeat the question. Are you successful?

And hey, we all have to listen to "ignorant drivel" from others.

 

[IM2]

Batcat beat me to the question but since you haven't responded I'll repeat the question. Are you successful?

And hey, we all have to listen to "ignorant drivel" from others.

Are you? This white racist bullshit about people opposing racism because they aren't successful is stupid shit. Oprah is a billionaire, and she opposes racism. So just drop the white boy stupid and work to end white racism.

 

[Woodznutz]

Are you? This white racist bullshit about people opposing racism because they aren't successful is stupid shit. Oprah is a billionaire, and she opposes racism. So just drop the white boy stupid and work to end white racism.

You missed the point, that being that black people don't have to be failures because of white racism.

 

[IM2]

You missed the point, that being that black people don't have to be failures because of white racism.

I haven't missed jack shit. The point being is that we should not have to face white racism in the first place and until you turn black and face that racism don't put your fingers on a keyboard in any sequence trying to tell me what we don't have to be. Stop assuming somebody's a failure because we don't tolerate your fucking racism.

 

[MizMolly]

I haven't missed jack shit. The point being is that we should not have to face white racism in the first place and until you turn black and face that racism don't put your fingers on a keyboard in any sequence trying to tell me what we don't have to be. Stop assuming somebody's a failure because we don't tolerate your fucking racism.

You project black racism with virtually every reply on this forum.

 

[Unkotare]

I haven't missed jack shit. The point being is that we should not have to face white racism in the first place and until you turn black and face that racism don't put your fingers on a keyboard in any sequence trying to tell me what we don't have to be. Stop assuming somebody's a failure because we don't tolerate your fucking racism.

You are a racist, whiny little bitch.

 

[woodwork201]

I mean really? What in the hell makes a group of people with a history of enslavement , genocide and apartheid in order to achieve what they have belive they have been so sucessful that they can lecture others.

I have no history of enslavement, genocide, or apartheid.