Why do the people who voted for Hillary want to pay more taxes?

[g5000]

Seriously, this is illogical and ignorant. So why do you want to keep less of your money and give more away to the government?

Be specific please

We are a nation of "gimme gimme gimme and make that guy over there pay for it."

Everyone wants a handout from the government. Everyone DEMANDS a government handout.

But we don't want to pay for it.

So here's the thing. Listen carefully.

If we don't pay for our government gifts...our children will.


I can't speak for liberals, but I can tell you how I feel.

It isn't that I want to pay higher taxes. I just don't want our kids to have to pay.

I don't have kids and therefore I pay more taxes than people with kids it should be the other way around

Nope. The number of kids you have should have nothing to do with how much you pay in taxes.

What right minded person who calls themselves a conservative would ever support a government behavioral control program which taxes you depending on how many kids you have!?!?!?

You are fined by the government for not having kids. WTF?

 

[task0778]

People who voted for Hillary want OTHER people to pay more taxes. They also want to spend other people's money. Somebody probably already said that but I ain't going through 550 posts to find out.

 

[g5000]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

You get far more bang for your buck by donating directly to a charity. Governments are incredibly wasteful, so if that is truly your goal do it the right way, and not the stupid way.

Most tax payers money goes directly to pay the people running the programs.. their. vacations,company cars,bonuses etc. what's left over is what goes to to said programs after most of it is sypohned off.

This is a meme you have been programmed to parrot.

Quite a lot of charities have more overhead than government programs.

 

[g5000]

People who voted for Hillary want OTHER people to pay more taxes. They also want to spend other people's money. Somebody probably already said that but I ain't going through 550 posts to find out.

Anyone who supports tax expenditures wants everyone to pay higher tax rates and wants the government to borrow more money from our enemies.

That's a fact.

And almost every pseudocon on this forum supports tax expenditures.

 

[August West]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Except for the fact that liberals hate Christianity.

We like real Christianity, not people like you who Gandhi commented on a long time ago. When Gandhi says you suck, you really do. 80% of Evangelicals are now cool with adultery, greed, non stop lying, whoring around on your pregnant wife, racism, war mongering, etc.
Quote by Mahatma Gandhi : “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christia...”

 

[Skull Pilot]

Seriously, this is illogical and ignorant. So why do you want to keep less of your money and give more away to the government?

Be specific please

We are a nation of "gimme gimme gimme and make that guy over there pay for it."

Everyone wants a handout from the government. Everyone DEMANDS a government handout.

But we don't want to pay for it.

So here's the thing. Listen carefully.

If we don't pay for our government gifts...our children will.


I can't speak for liberals, but I can tell you how I feel.

It isn't that I want to pay higher taxes. I just don't want our kids to have to pay.

I don't have kids and therefore I pay more taxes than people with kids it should be the other way around

Nope. The number of kids you have should have nothing to do with how much you pay in taxes.

What right minded person who calls themselves a conservative would ever support a government behavioral control program which taxes you depending on how many kids you have!?!?!?

You are fined by the government for not having kids. WTF?

But the number of kids you have has much to do with how much you pay in taxes.

 

[g5000]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Except for the fact that liberals hate Christianity.

Whereas pseudocons love a guy who made his living off preying on human weakness in his gambling houses and contests of the flesh and who has been married three times and cheated on all three wives, including with a porn actress.

But don't bake a cake for a homo! Don't bake a cake for a homo!


That's the kind of Christianity they preach. The mote-in-your-nieghbor's-eye style of Christianity you just showed us.

 

[task0778]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Except for the fact that liberals hate Christianity.

We like real Christianity, not people like you who Gandhi commented on a long time ago. When Gandhi says you suck, you really do. 80% of Evangelicals are now cool with adultery, greed, non stop lying, whoring around on your pregnant wife, racism, war mongering, etc.
Quote by Mahatma Gandhi : “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christia...”

Was wondering where you got your 80% number. Highly questionable IMHO.

 

[g5000]

Seriously, this is illogical and ignorant. So why do you want to keep less of your money and give more away to the government?

Be specific please

We are a nation of "gimme gimme gimme and make that guy over there pay for it."

Everyone wants a handout from the government. Everyone DEMANDS a government handout.

But we don't want to pay for it.

So here's the thing. Listen carefully.

If we don't pay for our government gifts...our children will.


I can't speak for liberals, but I can tell you how I feel.

It isn't that I want to pay higher taxes. I just don't want our kids to have to pay.

I don't have kids and therefore I pay more taxes than people with kids it should be the other way around

Nope. The number of kids you have should have nothing to do with how much you pay in taxes.

What right minded person who calls themselves a conservative would ever support a government behavioral control program which taxes you depending on how many kids you have!?!?!?

You are fined by the government for not having kids. WTF?

But the number of kids you have has much to do with how much you pay in taxes.

I know. And it is totally wrong. Pure evil.

And it comes at the expense of everyone paying higher tax rates.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I asked this question before remind me in US history have we ever lowered taxes when we where at full employment?

"Bush tax cuts".

I've always said pseudocons have the memory retention of a goldfish.

I forgot to add when we were not in a mini recession or recession....it never happened.

Yeah, you just keep moving those goalposts, mm-kay?

I just woke up..i wasn't moving the goal posts I asked the full question on here like 30 times.

You haven't woken up. You're still sound asleep.

Trump is burying our children under more and more debt. He gave handout to special interests which saddled our children with another $1.5 trillion of debt, and the tards were dancing in the streets.

Trump has made you all in Keynesians and you didn't even notice.

Wakey wakey!

And Obama spent almost a trillion dollars and the UE went up...

 

[g5000]

"Bush tax cuts".

I've always said pseudocons have the memory retention of a goldfish.

I forgot to add when we were not in a mini recession or recession....it never happened.

Yeah, you just keep moving those goalposts, mm-kay?

I just woke up..i wasn't moving the goal posts I asked the full question on here like 30 times.

You haven't woken up. You're still sound asleep.

Trump is burying our children under more and more debt. He gave handout to special interests which saddled our children with another $1.5 trillion of debt, and the tards were dancing in the streets.

Trump has made you all in Keynesians and you didn't even notice.

Wakey wakey!

And Obama spent almost a trillion dollars and the UE went up...

Wow. That's some delusion you have there.

 

[Dragonlady]

Most good, productive Americans agree with spending on our military.

So, only bad, unproductive Americans disagree with our military spending, eh?

Oh.. almost forgot. Fuckoffanddie. Thanks in advance!

You act surprised.
You didn’t know that filthy unAmerican, lowlife pieces of shits like you prefer to funnel all taxpayer cash toward the nations bottom feeding beggars?

He didn’t know that because it’s not true.

As the transfer of wealth figures clearly show, since 1980, the wealth of the nation is being funnelled steadily to the top 5% most wealthy.

In 1980, before Republicans went on their campaign of “tax reform”, the working class had savings and equity. Now that’s gone, and the middle class are losing ground.

Trump’s recent round of tax cuts are accelerating that transfer. America’s working class who voted for Trump are literally picking up the peanuts while being trampled by the elephants.

 

[Thinker101]

Most good, productive Americans agree with spending on our military.

So, only bad, unproductive Americans disagree with our military spending, eh?

Oh.. almost forgot. Fuckoffanddie. Thanks in advance!

You act surprised.
You didn’t know that filthy unAmerican, lowlife pieces of shits like you prefer to funnel all taxpayer cash toward the nations bottom feeding beggars?

He didn’t know that because it’s not true.

As the transfer of wealth figures clearly show, since 1980, the wealth of the nation is being funnelled steadily to the top 5% most wealthy.

In 1980, before Republicans went on their campaign of “tax reform”, the working class had savings and equity. Now that’s gone, and the middle class are losing ground.

Trump’s recent round of tax cuts are accelerating that transfer. America’s working class who voted for Trump are literally picking up the peanuts while being trampled by the elephants.

Peanuts? Great, we're making progress, it use to be "crumbs".

 

[rightwinger]

They do not get it, tax laws do not discriminate...…….

Of course they do.
People with kids pay less taxes
People who smoke pay more taxes
People with mortgages pay less taxes

If that's not discrimination what is?

A large part of our tax laws serve no purpose other than social engineering

So have kids, buy a home and live the American dream, don't smoke and drink and get married

Why should I have to?
You do realize that by not having kids that I use less government services don't you?

Your choice

The services are still available

ROFL! I pay for them whether I use them or not. That's the leftwing conception of a "free choice."

That is the way society works
As a whole you make out better than you would by yourself

 

[rightwinger]

"Bush tax cuts".

I've always said pseudocons have the memory retention of a goldfish.

I forgot to add when we were not in a mini recession or recession....it never happened.

Yeah, you just keep moving those goalposts, mm-kay?

I just woke up..i wasn't moving the goal posts I asked the full question on here like 30 times.

You haven't woken up. You're still sound asleep.

Trump is burying our children under more and more debt. He gave handout to special interests which saddled our children with another $1.5 trillion of debt, and the tards were dancing in the streets.

Trump has made you all in Keynesians and you didn't even notice.

Wakey wakey!

And Obama spent almost a trillion dollars and the UE went up...

When did UE go up?

 

[Hum Dinger]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Except for the fact that liberals hate Christianity.

That is the RWNJ party line. Of course, it's just another lie, but that hasn't mattered so far.

Actually, the left has seemed to do everything in its power to remove God from any and every public venue, from government buildings to schools, so, id say his statement is pretty spot on.

Why in the world would you think that references to God are appropriate in public and government buildings?

Many people - including religious people - think that references to God are absolutely inappropriate in public and government buildings. Refusing to allow it does not mean Christians are hated nor is it a rebuke of religious beliefs.

The days of theocracy are over. Religion and government should be absolutely separated. That does not constitute persecution of Religion or religious people.

How would you like it if the government pushed someone else's religion on you? Would you like it if symbols of Islam or Satanism were displayed in government buildings?

Would you feel comfortable if a judge displayed Sharia law in his court room while you were on trial?

Not allowing Christian or other religious symbols in government buildings doesn't mean Christians are persecuted, it means that we are free from persecution by Christians.

"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

Even Jesus believed in separation of church and state!

 

[Dragonlady]

Seriously, this is illogical and ignorant. So why do you want to keep less of your money and give more away to the government?

Be specific please

Sure I'll be specific. What is ignorant about thinking of taxes as a way to fund a standard of living? You don't '' give'' the government money. The government gets taxes which it uses to fund stuff like infrastructure, the military, education, pensions, etc. The reason we allow this is that the governments is better at certain types of stuff. I'm Belgian, my wife is American. We live in Europe, the reason being that our kid has more opportunities here. I'm willing to compare my quality of life against most Americans. A big part of that quality of life is funded by taxes that would make you blanch.

Taxes are money the government takes from you by force, and they don't fund any kind of "better lifestyle." They mostly go to fund parasites.

You want to compare quality of life? What's the average size of a home in Belgium? What's the price of gas there? What do you pay for electricity? How much does it cost to get on a golf course?

You should not be posting about economics or taxes. Everything you think you know is either a rightwing lie, or it’s simply WRONG.

MOST federal taxes do NOT go to the “bottom feeders”. 24% of your federal taxes go to the military. 38% goes for Social Security and Medicare - things that retired taxpayers have paid for all their working lives. That’s 62% of your budget right there.

Another big chunk of money goes to pay for government: for the Patent Office which protects corporation intellectual property, for the Commerce Department which protects federal corporations, for the Department of Homeland Security, ICE, for Congress, the CIA, FBI, and federal courts throughout the country. Then there’s farm subsidies, and lots of pork barrel programs.

6% goes for interest in the National Debt. That’s based on 2014 figures when interest was low. Interest rates are now rising just as Trump’s budget explodes the deficit and the national debt is rising faster than at any time in recent history.

The total amount going for social spending is less than 25% of the budget.

Understanding Taxes - Activity 3: Citizen's Guide to the Federal Budget

 

[ThisIsMe]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Except for the fact that liberals hate Christianity.

That is the RWNJ party line. Of course, it's just another lie, but that hasn't mattered so far.

Actually, the left has seemed to do everything in its power to remove God from any and every public venue, from government buildings to schools, so, id say his statement is pretty spot on.

Why in the world would you think that references to God are appropriate in public and government buildings?

Many people - including religious people - think that references to God are absolutely inappropriate in public and government buildings. Refusing to allow it does not mean Christians are hated nor is it a rebuke of religious beliefs.

The days of theocracy are over. Religion and government should be absolutely separated. That does not constitute persecution of Religion or religious people.

How would you like it if the government pushed someone else's religion on you? Would you like it if symbols of Islam or Satanism were displayed in government buildings?

Would you feel comfortable if a judge displayed Sharia law in his court room while you were on trial?

Not allowing Christian or other religious symbols in government buildings doesn't mean Christians are persecuted, it means that we are free from persecution by Christians.

"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

Even Jesus believed in separation of church and state!

As I said to bulldog earlier, I will concede that if believers keep their religion out of government, then government should stay out of religion. Does that sound fair?

 

[Meathead]

Seriously, this is illogical and ignorant. So why do you want to keep less of your money and give more away to the government?

Be specific please

Sure I'll be specific. What is ignorant about thinking of taxes as a way to fund a standard of living? You don't '' give'' the government money. The government gets taxes which it uses to fund stuff like infrastructure, the military, education, pensions, etc. The reason we allow this is that the governments is better at certain types of stuff. I'm Belgian, my wife is American. We live in Europe, the reason being that our kid has more opportunities here. I'm willing to compare my quality of life against most Americans. A big part of that quality of life is funded by taxes that would make you blanch.

Taxes are money the government takes from you by force, and they don't fund any kind of "better lifestyle." They mostly go to fund parasites.

You want to compare quality of life? What's the average size of a home in Belgium? What's the price of gas there? What do you pay for electricity? How much does it cost to get on a golf course?

You should not be posting about economics or taxes. Everything you think you know is either a rightwing lie, or it’s simply WRONG.

MOST federal taxes do NOT go to the “bottom feeders”. 24% of your federal taxes go to the military. 38% goes for Social Security and Medicare - things that retired taxpayers have paid for all their working lives. That’s 62% of your budget right there.

Another big chunk of money goes to pay for government: for the Patent Office which protects corporation intellectual property, for the Commerce Department which protects federal corporations, for the Department of Homeland Security, ICE, for Congress, the CIA, FBI, and federal courts throughout the country. Then there’s farm subsidies, and lots of pork barrel programs.

6% goes for interest in the National Debt. That’s based on 2014 figures when interest was low. Interest rates are now rising just as Trump’s budget explodes the deficit and the national debt is rising faster than at any time in recent history.

The total amount going for social spending is less than 25% of the budget.

Understanding Taxes - Activity 3: Citizen's Guide to the Federal Budget

Then I object to 1 out of every 4 bucks of taxes going to bottom feeders.

 

[dblack]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Except for the fact that liberals hate Christianity.

That is the RWNJ party line. Of course, it's just another lie, but that hasn't mattered so far.

Actually, the left has seemed to do everything in its power to remove God from any and every public venue, from government buildings to schools, so, id say his statement is pretty spot on.

Why in the world would you think that references to God are appropriate in public and government buildings?

Many people - including religious people - think that references to God are absolutely inappropriate in public and government buildings. Refusing to allow it does not mean Christians are hated nor is it a rebuke of religious beliefs.

The days of theocracy are over. Religion and government should be absolutely separated. That does not constitute persecution of Religion or religious people.

How would you like it if the government pushed someone else's religion on you? Would you like it if symbols of Islam or Satanism were displayed in government buildings?

Would you feel comfortable if a judge displayed Sharia law in his court room while you were on trial?

Not allowing Christian or other religious symbols in government buildings doesn't mean Christians are persecuted, it means that we are free from persecution by Christians.

"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

Even Jesus believed in separation of church and state!

As I said to bulldog earlier, I will concede that if believers keep their religion out of government, then government should stay out of religion. Does that sound fair?

We need to work our out same arrangement with the economy.