Why do democrats want more people on foodstamps and welfare

[danielpalos]

Employment is at-will. I would be naturally unemployed and should qualify for unemployment compensation.

And, EDD should have to prove, for-cause employment to deny and disparage benefits.

You can choose to not work. Society has chosen to not pay you for doing so.

Only illegals to the law. The law is, employment at will. Why does the right wing have a problem being legal to the law?

Dude, your smoke fogged interpretation means nothing. You have no right to the public purse. You can work, do it.

dear, providing for the general welfare, makes it a dis-pursable issue.

How's that working out for you?

ok, I suppose. pot is legal in California and the State expects an increase in revenue.

 

[rightwinger]

It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

Then the solution if for taxpayers to no longer pay them. It has nothing to do with what a business pays their workers. There is no obligation that we pay lowlifes who made bad decisions in life or only want to work 20 hours a week.

 

[rightwinger]

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

Then the solution if for taxpayers to no longer pay them. It has nothing to do with what a business pays their workers. There is no obligation that we pay lowlifes who made bad decisions in life or only want to work 20 hours a week.

Let them starve

Good solution......that will fix them for being poor

 

[ColonelAngus]

Isn't it better for Americans to have jobs and self respect?

Democratic Party on Welfare & Poverty

They want VOTES

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

Then the solution if for taxpayers to no longer pay them. It has nothing to do with what a business pays their workers. There is no obligation that we pay lowlifes who made bad decisions in life or only want to work 20 hours a week.

Let them starve

Good solution......that will fix them for being poor

Yeah, starve. They may then need to do something really desperate like give up cigarettes and get rid of that big dog. Maybe the three cats can go too.

I don't recall anybody starving when I was younger and very few participated in social programs. If we didn't have enough to get by, we just worked more hours or got a part-time job. But those days are long gone. Now if the taxpayer doesn't feed you, you starve.

 

[Slyhunter]

Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!

It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

If a business pays their employees so little they qualify for federal aid then the federal government should get reimbursed from that company.

 

[Slyhunter]

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

Then the solution if for taxpayers to no longer pay them. It has nothing to do with what a business pays their workers. There is no obligation that we pay lowlifes who made bad decisions in life or only want to work 20 hours a week.

Let them starve

Good solution......that will fix them for being poor

I'll take up bank robber if given that choice.

 

[hadit]

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!

It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

If a business pays their employees so little they qualify for federal aid then the federal government should get reimbursed from that company.

If the federal government decides everyone should get paid a certain amount, it should create the welfare program and sign people up.

 

[Slyhunter]

It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

If a business pays their employees so little they qualify for federal aid then the federal government should get reimbursed from that company.

If the federal government decides everyone should get paid a certain amount, it should create the welfare program and sign people up.

If business pay so little their employees can't afford to feed themselves a decent meal or rent a home with electricity and running water then they should cover the difference in one for or another.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!

It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

If a business pays their employees so little they qualify for federal aid then the federal government should get reimbursed from that company.

Now that's a good plan. Shut down all these companies because that's all forcing them to pay government would do. More stuff from China, that's what we need for employment in the US.

 

[hadit]

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

If a business pays their employees so little they qualify for federal aid then the federal government should get reimbursed from that company.

If the federal government decides everyone should get paid a certain amount, it should create the welfare program and sign people up.

If business pay so little their employees can't afford to feed themselves a decent meal or rent a home with electricity and running water then they should cover the difference in one for or another.

Then why not set the MW at $100/hr and eliminate poverty altogether? You see, it's not that "businesses pay" so little, it's that unskilled labor is not worth a lot any more.

 

[Dragonlady]

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

Then the solution if for taxpayers to no longer pay them. It has nothing to do with what a business pays their workers. There is no obligation that we pay lowlifes who made bad decisions in life or only want to work 20 hours a week.

Why do conservatives vilify the working poor? They’re WORKING -FULL TIME. Many are working two or three jobs to make ends meet. If you were a young person now, you’d be one of them.

With almost full employment, the bald fact is there are no jobs for these people to “move up to”. The “good jobs” that someone with a high school education could get in manufacturing are gone and they’re not coming back. The jobs that supported my father and our family are gone along with the unions that negotiated their wages and benefits.

When companies that brag about high profits aren’t paying their workers enough to keep a roof over their heads, and they expect taxpayers to subsidize wages for their workers, these companies and their shareholders are parasites.

 

[danielpalos]

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

Then the solution if for taxpayers to no longer pay them. It has nothing to do with what a business pays their workers. There is no obligation that we pay lowlifes who made bad decisions in life or only want to work 20 hours a week.

why not simply jail employers who don't hire everyone that asks, in right to work States.

 

[danielpalos]

Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

Then the solution if for taxpayers to no longer pay them. It has nothing to do with what a business pays their workers. There is no obligation that we pay lowlifes who made bad decisions in life or only want to work 20 hours a week.

Let them starve

Good solution......that will fix them for being poor

Yeah, starve. They may then need to do something really desperate like give up cigarettes and get rid of that big dog. Maybe the three cats can go too.

I don't recall anybody starving when I was younger and very few participated in social programs. If we didn't have enough to get by, we just worked more hours or got a part-time job. But those days are long gone. Now if the taxpayer doesn't feed you, you starve.

healthcare reform and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage!

 

[Bob Blaylock]

healthcare reform and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage!

A mindless, unsentient parrot, repeating the same words over and over with no understanding of what they mean.

 

[Dragonlady]

healthcare reform and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage!

A mindless, unsentient parrot, repeating the same words over and over with no understanding of what they mean.

I disagree. Healthcare reform and a $15 minimum wage would be a start. But neither is going to happen.

 

[hadit]

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

Then the solution if for taxpayers to no longer pay them. It has nothing to do with what a business pays their workers. There is no obligation that we pay lowlifes who made bad decisions in life or only want to work 20 hours a week.

Let them starve

Good solution......that will fix them for being poor

Yeah, starve. They may then need to do something really desperate like give up cigarettes and get rid of that big dog. Maybe the three cats can go too.

I don't recall anybody starving when I was younger and very few participated in social programs. If we didn't have enough to get by, we just worked more hours or got a part-time job. But those days are long gone. Now if the taxpayer doesn't feed you, you starve.

healthcare reform and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage!

Which you wouldn't get because you won't work.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

healthcare reform and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage!

Which you wouldn't get because you won't work.

Perhaps danielpalos imagines that in his world, someone will be forced to pay him fifteen dollars an hour to hide in his mother's basement smoking dope and playing video games.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

The taxpayer feeds, houses and provides healthcare to those who make them a profit.

That is coddling employers at the taxpayers expense
To make it worse.......employers now have to pay half the taxes that they used to pay to support their workers

Then the solution if for taxpayers to no longer pay them. It has nothing to do with what a business pays their workers. There is no obligation that we pay lowlifes who made bad decisions in life or only want to work 20 hours a week.

Why do conservatives vilify the working poor? They’re WORKING -FULL TIME. Many are working two or three jobs to make ends meet. If you were a young person now, you’d be one of them.

With almost full employment, the bald fact is there are no jobs for these people to “move up to”. The “good jobs” that someone with a high school education could get in manufacturing are gone and they’re not coming back. The jobs that supported my father and our family are gone along with the unions that negotiated their wages and benefits.

When companies that brag about high profits aren’t paying their workers enough to keep a roof over their heads, and they expect taxpayers to subsidize wages for their workers, these companies and their shareholders are parasites.

Companies don't expect anything from our government. If government wants to pay these people to sit home, then it's not a companies business. They don't care.

Lying doesn't work with something this obvious. Companies are not responsible for handing out government goodies--Democrats are. Don't place the blame of Democrats on industry because industry is not at fault--Democrats are.

Many are working two or three jobs? Great. Post your evidence of this claim.