Why are we still talking about this stupid wall idea?

[radical right]

You claimed a district courts decisions are confined to that district, are you now saying you were wrong?
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That was based on the judge reaching a decision. Your scenario is where both parties agree and the judge enters a settlement agreement, which doesn't go beyond the two parties.

 

[radical right]

f the federal government is the defendant and a district court issues a judgment against the defendant, is it binding on the whole federal government or just the parts within that district?


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You said Sessions would agree with the plaintiff. Therefor no decision has to be rendered, the judge just acknowledges the settlement. The court washes it's hands of the case.

 

[OKTexas]

You claimed a district courts decisions are confined to that district, are you now saying you were wrong?
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That was based on the judge reaching a decision. Your scenario is where both parties agree and the judge enters a settlement agreement, which doesn't go beyond the two parties.

Stop playing the semantics game, one party would be the federal government, if a judge issues and order pursuant to a settlement or on a contested case, it would be binding on both parties to the suit equally.

Now stop wasting my time and look up sue and settle, the EPA paid environmental groups to sue them, then they would settle the case, getting a judges order against them and evade the legislative process. The same thing can be done on this issue, except the States don't need the money to file.


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[radical right]

Stop playing the semantics game, one party would be the federal government, if a judge issues and order pursuant to a settlement or on a contested case, it would be binding on both parties to the suit equally.

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When both parties agree the judge has nothing to do, but approve the settlement for legality.

NOTICE OF DISTRICT COURT RULING PURSUANT TO LIMITED REMAND Notice is hereby given that on , 20__, following a fairness hearing conducted pursuant to Rule 23(e)(2) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the United States District Court for the District of approved the parties' proposed settlement.

 

[OKTexas]

Stop playing the semantics game, one party would be the federal government, if a judge issues and order pursuant to a settlement or on a contested case, it would be binding on both parties to the suit equally.

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When both parties agree the judge has nothing to do, but approve the settlement for legality.

NOTICE OF DISTRICT COURT RULING PURSUANT TO LIMITED REMAND Notice is hereby given that on , 20__, following a fairness hearing conducted pursuant to Rule 23(e)(2) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the United States District Court for the District of approved the parties' proposed settlement.

They issue an order pursuant to the settlement, to insure both parties abide by the agreement. And if the federal government is a party it binds the whole government, not just the part within that district.

Now we're done on this topic as well.


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[C_Clayton_Jones]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

We’re forced to talk about the moronic ‘wall’ because it represents a much larger issue: the bigotry and hate common to far too many on the right, and conservatives’ unwarranted fear of change, diversity, and an inclusive society.

The right’s ‘wall’ of bigotry, fear, and hate is a classic manifestation of Republican nativism.

 

[Meathead]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

Because we have a lot of native riff-raff and we don't need to be importing them. Stupid question.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

You have to understand their mentality, it's like children that build a fort out of couch pillows. It isn't a fort and won't protect them but it FEELS like it will. Conservatives live for their feelings. Fear being by far the main one. They fear 'the other' more than anything.

 

[Billy000]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

Because we have a lot of native riff-raff and we don't need to be importing them. Stupid question.

What you think of illegals is besides the point. The point is that the wall is a stupid, ineffective idea.

 

[Billy000]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

You have to understand their mentality, it's like children that build a fort out of couch pillows. It isn't a fort and won't protect them but it FEELS like it will. Conservatives live for their feelings. Fear being by far the main one. They fear 'the other' more than anything.

So very true. These people don’t think with facts and reason - they think with pure emotion.

 

[Muhammed]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

No, you are absolutely soft on illegal immigration. You can’t win in the long term without importing new voters to support your Marxist agenda

I’m not saying liberals aren’t softer on immigration, I’m saying that reason has nothing to do with why we think the wall is a stupid idea.

Bullshit. Americans who against the security wall know it would make smuggling small children across the border to sell as sex slaves much more difficult.

 

[Meathead]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

Because we have a lot of native riff-raff and we don't need to be importing them. Stupid question.

What you think of illegals is besides the point. The point is that the wall is a stupid, ineffective idea.

What illegals are is the point, not what I think of them. Furthermore, the word of a dingbat who was reveling because a Democrat won a Democratic primary just yesterday is an incredibly hard sell.

 

[Crixus]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

No worries, Trump Gave up on it last night.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

Why can't America control its border crossings just like the other 200 countries on the planet?
The Democrats need more poor uneducated voters who hate America.

The Democrats are racist assholes.
Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; “Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die … Through love of having children, we are going to take over."

 

[bripat9643]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

No, you are absolutely soft on illegal immigration. You can’t win in the long term without importing new voters to support your Marxist agenda

Are you really dumb enough to believe that?

Do you really think he's dumb enough to believe you?

 

[Darkwind]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

1 It requires a bit of native intelligence to understand that Mexico isn't going to reach into their back pocket, pull out a wallet, and give us cash up front. I know you clowns want to say that the promise Trump made is that they would send us checks to pay for it, but there are two things with this. A campaign promise is often not followed through on, and those that are are often carried out with some modification.

2. The wall will make the effort to scale it nearly impossible. Nothing has to be perfect. The wall, coupled with other programs and solid diligence by our border patrol, will effectively reduce the crossing to zero. After all, when immates escape a prison, they almost NEVER go across the wall.

3. It isn't the public land that will be the issue, it is the private land. Try to think a little bit harder on this one.

4. Then we won't have to put a wall there, will we?0

5. Has nothing to do with the wall. If you want to talk about the wall, stick to that topic.

6. The cost of protecting our borders is a Constitutionally authorized cost and a very necessary one. Suck it up.

7 Correct. No one is migrating from Mexico, but there sure are hundreds of thousands of border jumpers trying to cross the border each and every year. Learn your words.

8 Obama's administration changed the metric on what constitutes a deportation so the claim isn't a valid one. Stopping someone at the border is NOT a deportation. However, if you want to use that metric, then Trump's 65% reduction of crossing count as deportations too!

Have a nice day.

 

[Correll]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it....M.

I stopped reading here.


You lie. YOu want illegal immigration so that you can win elections.


You are against the wall because you know it will work.



BUILD THE WALL. DEPORT THE ILLEGAL.

 

[Asclepias]

Liberals fight far more strenuously on the behalf of foreigners than they do for their fellow Americans.

Liberals brag about Obama deporting more illegals than any other president (if you believe their dubious system for counting deportees) while simultaneously trashing Trump for deporting illegals.

We only trash Drumpf for being a fucking idiot. Illegals should be deported. When are all the white people going to volunteer for deportation?

Black people aren't from here either, moron.

Some Black people are from here you idiot.

 

[Billy000]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

1 It requires a bit of native intelligence to understand that Mexico isn't going to reach into their back pocket, pull out a wallet, and give us cash up front. I know you clowns want to say that the promise Trump made is that they would send us checks to pay for it, but there are two things with this. A campaign promise is often not followed through on, and those that are are often carried out with some modification.

2. The wall will make the effort to scale it nearly impossible. Nothing has to be perfect. The wall, coupled with other programs and solid diligence by our border patrol, will effectively reduce the crossing to zero. After all, when immates escape a prison, they almost NEVER go across the wall.

3. It isn't the public land that will be the issue, it is the private land. Try to think a little bit harder on this one.

4. Then we won't have to put a wall there, will we?0

5. Has nothing to do with the wall. If you want to talk about the wall, stick to that topic.

6. The cost of protecting our borders is a Constitutionally authorized cost and a very necessary one. Suck it up.

7 Correct. No one is migrating from Mexico, but there sure are hundreds of thousands of border jumpers trying to cross the border each and every year. Learn your words.

8 Obama's administration changed the metric on what constitutes a deportation so the claim isn't a valid one. Stopping someone at the border is NOT a deportation. However, if you want to use that metric, then Trump's 65% reduction of crossing count as deportations too!

Have a nice day.

1) There won’t be any “Modification” you dumb shit. Mexico will have nothing to do with the project that will never get built in the first place.

2) Oh really? Near impossible? Based on what? We don’t even know anything about the proposed design because Trump is too much of a moron to go into that kind of detail.

3) I misspoke. I meant private. I blame the weed. I’m glad you’re catching on with how unrealistic this is.

4) Yeah no shit. Hence why this is a stupid idea.

5) If does actually. It shows a wall is a stupid idea.

6) Lol suck it up? You people only care about government waste when it fits your agenda. Just how much do you think this will add to the deficit?

7) Migration is still the word you idiot. It doesn’t matter if it is legal or not.

8) It’s the same damn metric Bush used.

You failed.

 

[Darkwind]

Liberals don’t hate this idea because we are softer on illegal immigration - we hate it because it’s stupid and unfeasible.

1) Mexico obviously isn’t going to pay for it

2) Nothing is going to stop illegals from scaling the wall or tunneling under it.

3) In many areas, the border goes through American public land. Can you imagine the legal battles in court over this?

4) In many areas, the terrain makes it impossible to even build a wall.

5) 25% of illegal Mexicans who live here came here legally initially but overstayed their visas.

6) THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE WALL WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF TIME WOULD BE TO THE END OF AMERICA BEING A NATION WITH A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

7) TOTAL NET MIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS AT ZERO SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HIT.

8) OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN ANY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM.

1 It requires a bit of native intelligence to understand that Mexico isn't going to reach into their back pocket, pull out a wallet, and give us cash up front. I know you clowns want to say that the promise Trump made is that they would send us checks to pay for it, but there are two things with this. A campaign promise is often not followed through on, and those that are are often carried out with some modification.

2. The wall will make the effort to scale it nearly impossible. Nothing has to be perfect. The wall, coupled with other programs and solid diligence by our border patrol, will effectively reduce the crossing to zero. After all, when immates escape a prison, they almost NEVER go across the wall.

3. It isn't the public land that will be the issue, it is the private land. Try to think a little bit harder on this one.

4. Then we won't have to put a wall there, will we?0

5. Has nothing to do with the wall. If you want to talk about the wall, stick to that topic.

6. The cost of protecting our borders is a Constitutionally authorized cost and a very necessary one. Suck it up.

7 Correct. No one is migrating from Mexico, but there sure are hundreds of thousands of border jumpers trying to cross the border each and every year. Learn your words.

8 Obama's administration changed the metric on what constitutes a deportation so the claim isn't a valid one. Stopping someone at the border is NOT a deportation. However, if you want to use that metric, then Trump's 65% reduction of crossing count as deportations too!

Have a nice day.

1) There won’t be any “Modification” you dumb shit. Mexico will have nothing to do with the project that will never get built in the first place.

2) Oh really? Near impossible? Based on what? We don’t even know anything about the proposed design because Trump is too much of a moron to go into that kind of detail.

3) I misspoke. I meant private. I blame the weed. I’m glad you’re catching on with how unrealistic this is.

4) Yeah no shit. Hence why this is a stupid idea.

5) If does actually. It shows a wall is a stupid idea.

6) Lol suck it up? You people only care about government waste when it fits your agenda. Just how much do you think this will add to the deficit?

7) Migration is still the word you idiot. It doesn’t matter if it is legal or not.

8) It’s the same damn metric Bush used.

You failed.

1. As stupid as you are, you shouldn't' go around denigrating others. Gives the place a bad name. Mexico doesn't have to have anything to do with it to have it paid for by them through various methods. Dumb fuck.

2. In case you missed it, the designs have been tested.
Trump's border wall prototypes pass tests by military special forces
Tactical units spent weeks trying to breach and climb Trump's border wall prototypes — and they're nearly impossible to scale

3. Yeah....

4. Making statements about arguments not being made by anyone doesn't look good for your mental health.

5. It actually doesn't. It is a separate component of an overall security plan.

6. Suck it up. Autorized spending by our government on actual government responsibilities has never been questioned or opposed by conservatives. You'd know that if you weren't busy trying to spin things through your partisan kalidescope.

7. It does matter. Migration is the lawful movement of people from one country to another. Border jumping has never been defined as migration.

8. Frankly, I don't think you know what the word means, but no, it isn't.

Have a nice day.