why ANOTHER Mars rover?

[harmonica]

sure , it's part of an exploration package--for what?
advancing space flight/space technology= ok-----but trying to find life = waste
if they want to advance space technology, why keep going to Mars?

The mission takes the next step by not only seeking signs of habitable conditions on Mars in the ancient past, but also searching for signs of past microbial life itself.

Overview - Mars 2020 Rover

Colonizing on Mars would be the base operations to go exploring with other space probes on other planets outside of our own system.

It is literally in our DNA to explore, expand and to propagate the species further and further or become stagnant then eventually extinct. Humans wouldn't stay on one continent and sure as hell won't stay on one world.

We are the first species on this world with the ability to insure our long-term survival. We better damn well use that ability.

The Earth has finite lifespan, we as a species can choose not to.

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

ever read about the JWEbb telescope and it's problems/cost/huge cost overruns/etc??
and that's just sending a stationary telescope

originally conceived in 1996 as a $1 billion

than nine times that much, around $9.66 billion, with a launch more than a decade later than planned.

But numerous humans errors at Northrop Grumman over the last few months have stalled the telescope’s development: an incorrect solvent was used to clean a fuel valve, while someone applied the wrong voltage during a test. In a recent hearing, members of Congress came down hard on Northrop Grumman, arguing that the contractor should possibly front the cash for its mistakes. “This is about the biggest screw job I’ve ever seen, and the taxpayers are getting screwed here,

IF it works
Why NASA is struggling to get its most powerful space telescope off the ground

 

[petro]

sure , it's part of an exploration package--for what?
advancing space flight/space technology= ok-----but trying to find life = waste
if they want to advance space technology, why keep going to Mars?
Overview - Mars 2020 Rover

Colonizing on Mars would be the base operations to go exploring with other space probes on other planets outside of our own system.

It is literally in our DNA to explore, expand and to propagate the species further and further or become stagnant then eventually extinct. Humans wouldn't stay on one continent and sure as hell won't stay on one world.

We are the first species on this world with the ability to insure our long-term survival. We better damn well use that ability.

The Earth has finite lifespan, we as a species can choose not to.

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

Why Mars?

Why not settle the bottom of the ocean?
It is closer

Then all our eggs are still in one basket.
Why Mars?
It has the basics needed...
Google is your friend...
Why Mars, and not another planet? - A Mission to Mars - Mars One

How Terraforming Mars Will Work

Why Mars Is the Best Planet - The Atlantic

 

[rightwinger]

Colonizing on Mars would be the base operations to go exploring with other space probes on other planets outside of our own system.

It is literally in our DNA to explore, expand and to propagate the species further and further or become stagnant then eventually extinct. Humans wouldn't stay on one continent and sure as hell won't stay on one world.

We are the first species on this world with the ability to insure our long-term survival. We better damn well use that ability.

The Earth has finite lifespan, we as a species can choose not to.

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

Why Mars?

Why not settle the bottom of the ocean?
It is closer

Then all our eggs are still in one basket.
Why Mars?
It has the basics needed...
Google is your friend...
Why Mars, and not another planet? - A Mission to Mars - Mars One

How Terraforming Mars Will Work

Why Mars Is the Best Planet - The Atlantic

It doesn't
It has a weak atmosphere, extreme temperature shifts, you cant go out without a spacesuit, no evidence of sufficient water, takes months to get there

If the surface of the earth became uninhabitable, the ocean floor is a better option. It is closer and less expensive to build a living enclosure

 

[petro]

sure , it's part of an exploration package--for what?
advancing space flight/space technology= ok-----but trying to find life = waste
if they want to advance space technology, why keep going to Mars?
Overview - Mars 2020 Rover

Colonizing on Mars would be the base operations to go exploring with other space probes on other planets outside of our own system.

It is literally in our DNA to explore, expand and to propagate the species further and further or become stagnant then eventually extinct. Humans wouldn't stay on one continent and sure as hell won't stay on one world.

We are the first species on this world with the ability to insure our long-term survival. We better damn well use that ability.

The Earth has finite lifespan, we as a species can choose not to.

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

ever read about the JWEbb telescope and it's problems/cost/huge cost overruns/etc??
and that's just sending a stationary telescope

originally conceived in 1996 as a $1 billion

than nine times that much, around $9.66 billion, with a launch more than a decade later than p

Good thing those coming across the ocean to the new world didn't give up because of past failures or technical errors.

Humans take chances...
It is what got us this far.

 

[petro]

It is literally in our DNA to explore, expand and to propagate the species further and further or become stagnant then eventually extinct. Humans wouldn't stay on one continent and sure as hell won't stay on one world.

We are the first species on this world with the ability to insure our long-term survival. We better damn well use that ability.

The Earth has finite lifespan, we as a species can choose not to.

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

Why Mars?

Why not settle the bottom of the ocean?
It is closer

Then all our eggs are still in one basket.
Why Mars?
It has the basics needed...
Google is your friend...
Why Mars, and not another planet? - A Mission to Mars - Mars One

How Terraforming Mars Will Work

Why Mars Is the Best Planet - The Atlantic

It doesn't
It has a weak atmosphere, extreme temperature shifts, you cant go out without a spacesuit, no evidence of sufficient water, takes months to get there

If the surface of the earth became uninhabitable, the ocean floor is a better option. It is closer and less expensive to build a living enclosure

Well, stay home and put on a sweater.
Braver souls than both of us will go there.
Shits in the works despite your lack of imagination and negativity.

 

[rightwinger]

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

Why Mars?

Why not settle the bottom of the ocean?
It is closer

Then all our eggs are still in one basket.
Why Mars?
It has the basics needed...
Google is your friend...
Why Mars, and not another planet? - A Mission to Mars - Mars One

How Terraforming Mars Will Work

Why Mars Is the Best Planet - The Atlantic

It doesn't
It has a weak atmosphere, extreme temperature shifts, you cant go out without a spacesuit, no evidence of sufficient water, takes months to get there

If the surface of the earth became uninhabitable, the ocean floor is a better option. It is closer and less expensive to build a living enclosure

Well, stay home and put on a sweater.
Braver souls than both of us will go there.
Shits in the works despite your lack of imagination and negativity.

Beam me up Scotty

 

[petro]

Your fighting an inevitable.

Why Mars?

Why not settle the bottom of the ocean?
It is closer

Then all our eggs are still in one basket.
Why Mars?
It has the basics needed...
Google is your friend...
Why Mars, and not another planet? - A Mission to Mars - Mars One

How Terraforming Mars Will Work

Why Mars Is the Best Planet - The Atlantic

It doesn't
It has a weak atmosphere, extreme temperature shifts, you cant go out without a spacesuit, no evidence of sufficient water, takes months to get there

If the surface of the earth became uninhabitable, the ocean floor is a better option. It is closer and less expensive to build a living enclosure

Well, stay home and put on a sweater.
Braver souls than both of us will go there.
Shits in the works despite your lack of imagination and negativity.

Beam me up Scotty

 

[anotherlife]

Cheaper than sending robots, we should send the Latino asylum seekers to Mars. That way we don't even need to build a wall.

 

[harmonica]

Colonizing on Mars would be the base operations to go exploring with other space probes on other planets outside of our own system.

It is literally in our DNA to explore, expand and to propagate the species further and further or become stagnant then eventually extinct. Humans wouldn't stay on one continent and sure as hell won't stay on one world.

We are the first species on this world with the ability to insure our long-term survival. We better damn well use that ability.

The Earth has finite lifespan, we as a species can choose not to.

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

ever read about the JWEbb telescope and it's problems/cost/huge cost overruns/etc??
and that's just sending a stationary telescope

originally conceived in 1996 as a $1 billion

than nine times that much, around $9.66 billion, with a launch more than a decade later than p

Good thing those coming across the ocean to the new world didn't give up because of past failures or technical errors.

Humans take chances...
It is what got us this far.

they were not in HUGE debt/economies different
no fuel needed to get across the ocean

 

[harmonica]

Colonizing on Mars would be the base operations to go exploring with other space probes on other planets outside of our own system.

It is literally in our DNA to explore, expand and to propagate the species further and further or become stagnant then eventually extinct. Humans wouldn't stay on one continent and sure as hell won't stay on one world.

We are the first species on this world with the ability to insure our long-term survival. We better damn well use that ability.

The Earth has finite lifespan, we as a species can choose not to.

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

ever read about the JWEbb telescope and it's problems/cost/huge cost overruns/etc??
and that's just sending a stationary telescope

originally conceived in 1996 as a $1 billion

than nine times that much, around $9.66 billion, with a launch more than a decade later than p

Good thing those coming across the ocean to the new world didn't give up because of past failures or technical errors.

Humans take chances...
It is what got us this far.

you are not being realistic
you must be a Trekkie

 

[petro]

It is literally in our DNA to explore, expand and to propagate the species further and further or become stagnant then eventually extinct. Humans wouldn't stay on one continent and sure as hell won't stay on one world.

We are the first species on this world with the ability to insure our long-term survival. We better damn well use that ability.

The Earth has finite lifespan, we as a species can choose not to.

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

ever read about the JWEbb telescope and it's problems/cost/huge cost overruns/etc??
and that's just sending a stationary telescope

originally conceived in 1996 as a $1 billion

[QUworldhan nine times that much, around $9.66 billion, with a launch more than a decade later than p

Good thing those coming across the ocean to the new world didn't give up because of past failures or technical errors.

Humans take chances...
It is what got us this far.

you are not being realistic
you must be a Trekkie[/QUOTE]
Star Trek actually sucks.
You are unrealistic if you think humans will be confined to one world with a finite life span.

 

[harmonica]

We would be better off taking care of our own planet

Your fighting an inevitable.

ever read about the JWEbb telescope and it's problems/cost/huge cost overruns/etc??
and that's just sending a stationary telescope

originally conceived in 1996 as a $1 billion

[QUworldhan nine times that much, around $9.66 billion, with a launch more than a decade later than p

Good thing those coming across the ocean to the new world didn't give up because of past failures or technical errors.

Humans take chances...
It is what got us this far.

you are not being realistic
you must be a Trekkie

Star Trek actually sucks.
You are unrealistic if you think humans will be confined to one world with a finite life span.[/QUOTE]
you must not have read or understand my post on the JW telescope
it's very difficult just to pay for and send an unmanned telescope close to earth
....so the problems and cost of going to Mars will be proportionate to the developed technology and economy

 

[petro]

Your fighting an inevitable.

ever read about the JWEbb telescope and it's problems/cost/huge cost overruns/etc??
and that's just sending a stationary telescope

originally conceived in 1996 as a $1 billion

[QUworldhan nine times that much, around $9.66 billion, with a launch more than a decade later than p

Good thing those coming across the ocean to the new world didn't give up because of past failures or technical errors.

Humans take chances...
It is what got us this far.

you are not being realistic
you must be a Trekkie

Star Trek actually sucks.
You are unrealistic if you think humans will be confined to one world with a finite life span.

you must not have read or understand my post on the JW telescope
it's very difficult just to pay for and send an unmanned telescope close to earth
....so the problems and cost of going to Mars will be proportionate to the developed technology and economy[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Shit is hard to do and expensive.
That never stops us.
Plans are already being developed.
Funding is being appropriated.
NASA chief says 2018 budget ensures Mars mission still on track for 2033
Better call your representative if you believe its all a waste instead of arguing with me.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm OK with unmanned missions exploring Mars.

But the idea of colonizing Mars would take thousands of trips over many decades. Men on mars would depend on a lifeline from earth for their very existence. And it is not much of an existence confined to a small cramped enclosure and needing a full space suit to venture outside for a few hours

 

[percysunshine]

There is more water and life in the middle if the sahara desert. Why do people not want to live there?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Here's a good shot of the mars night sky taken by Curiosity.

Click on this link. Then click the full screen icon in the window. Then pan around like you do on google maps. Or just use your arrow keys. Mouse wheel zooms in and out.

Mars Panorama - Curiosity rover: Martian night

It's pretty.

 

[petro]

There is more water and life in the middle if the sahara desert. Why do people not want to live there?

These folks do...
Tuareg people - Wikipedia

You know. Folks live in the frozen areas of the arctic also.

Where there is water, life is sustainable. It is verified there is water available on Mars. Water gives us oxygen for life support and hydrogen for fuel.

The profit motive of space is becoming within reach as better delivery systems become available. It is happening whether you like it or not, because many believe "thars gold on dem asteroids ".
A 'diamond planet,' mining the moon and other ways billionaires plan to make a fortune in space

 

[rightwinger]

There is more water and life in the middle if the sahara desert. Why do people not want to live there?

These folks do...
Tuareg people - Wikipedia
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You know. Folks live in the frozen areas of the arctic also.

Where there is water, life is sustainable. It is verified there is water available on Mars. Water gives us oxygen for life support and hydrogen for fuel.

The profit motive of space is becoming within reach as better delivery systems become available. It is happening whether you like it or not, because many believe "thars gold on dem asteroids ".
A 'diamond planet,' mining the moon and other ways billionaires plan to make a fortune in space

It will take more than diamonds to make trips to the moon profitable

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

but trying to find life = waste

Why? That would be the greatest discovery in the history of mankind.

 

[rightwinger]

but trying to find life = waste

Why? That would be the greatest discovery in the history of mankind.

If we find life it would probably be a single cell creature or some type of slime