Who believes that this inmate is innocent? Hear his story

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He is scheduled to die on Thursday March 13 in TX.
He tells his story. After listening to his story as he tells it, do you believe he is not guilty?

Bear in mind, a Jury heard his story and claims he is guilty.

 
He is scheduled to die on Thursday March 13 in TX.
He tells his story. After listening to his story as he tells it, do you believe he is not guilty?

Bear in mind, a Jury heard his story and claims he is guilty.

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USAtoday's paywall makes me ambivalent about the issue.


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He is scheduled to die on Thursday March 13 in TX.
He tells his story. After listening to his story as he tells it, do you believe he is not guilty?

Bear in mind, a Jury heard his story and claims he is guilty.

No disrespect at all, but I don’t need to hear the story to give my answer. Because my answer is based on principal not case by case.

Juries can find a person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but they can never be absolutely positive. that’s a person is guilty. They have no way to know what evidence might turn up and in the future. That is one of several reasons that I am opposed to death penalty, even though I believe it is fully justified when one human being kills another or even severely injures or rapes another.
 
No disrespect at all, but I don’t need to hear the story to give my answer. Because my answer is based on principal not case by case.

Juries can find a person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but they can never be absolutely positive. that’s a person is guilty. They have no way to know what evidence might turn up and in the future. That is one of several reasons that I am opposed to death penalty, even though I believe it is fully justified when one human being kills another or even severely injures or rapes another.
I see a day when it is legal for cops to kill murders on sight to stop these decades long delays. If the cop witnesses the killer in the act of murder, let the cop be the final word.
 
I see a day when it is legal for cops to kill murders on sight to stop these decades long delays. If the cop witnesses the killer in the act of murder, let the cop be the final word.
Interesting, but with a possible downside,

Suppose a policeman executes a person he witnesses kill a shopowner. But his partner is sure that he saw the executed man’s crony fire the shot. So he does his duty and executes his partner. But a responding officer arriving at that moment sees one officer kill another and executes the officer who shot his partner. At that moment, the Sergeant is pulling into the lot and sees that execution. So . . .
 
Interesting, but with a possible downside,

Suppose a policeman executes a person he witnesses kill a shopowner. But his partner is sure that he saw the executed man’s crony fire the shot. So he does his duty and executes his partner. But a responding officer arriving at that moment sees one officer kill another and executes the officer who shot his partner. At that moment, the Sergeant is pulling into the lot and sees that execution. So . . .
That is a hell of a theory. And I was happy you posted that. :clap:
 
I don't pay USA today. Not clear why i got to read the article but when put here it turned into a paywall.
Now that I'm off work, I watched most of that video.

I would say that he is the most likely person to have committed these crimes. But that is not enough to warrant a conviction and especially the death penalty.

But that video brings up a corollary to my theorem that we should not have the death penalty because guilt can never be certain. The corollary is that an "innocent" person is not truly innocent if he or she has committed crimes in the past that make him or her a likely suspect in a capital crime.

To put it more bluntly, if he is executed for the desert rape-murders and he did not actually do it, the injustice is mitigated by the fact that he previously molested a twelve year old and raped a thirteen and nineteen year old.

I have other reasons besides innocence to oppose the death penalty. As a libertarian, I don't trust the government to make decisions like that.
 
Now that I'm off work, I watched most of that video.

I would say that he is the most likely person to have committed these crimes. But that is not enough to warrant a conviction and especially the death penalty.

But that video brings up a corollary to my theorem that we should not have the death penalty because guilt can never be certain. The corollary is that an "innocent" person is not truly innocent if he or she has committed crimes in the past that make him or her a likely suspect in a capital crime.

To put it more bluntly, if he is executed for the desert rape-murders and he did not actually do it, the injustice is mitigated by the fact that he previously molested a twelve year old and raped a thirteen and nineteen year old.

I have other reasons besides innocence to oppose the death penalty. As a libertarian, I don't trust the government to make decisions like that.
That is a great analysis. Thank you for checking it out. It is tough to be on the side of a rapist. And he was in prison other times. But so far he has not persuaded any high court to save him. The raped girls no doubt will enjoy his death.
 
I can't say without knowing more. I would limit the death penalty to those that kill for pleasure. They can't be helped or rehabilitated. Just put them dowm.
 

Stay granted for Texas death row inmate two days before scheduled execution​

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