Who Are The Palestinains?

[Roudy]

FGM is not compulsory in Islam. Some sects practice it. Most don't

The Hijab, hiqab and burka: none of them are compulsory by Islam. Modesty is, unless in private or with the same sex.

The 72 virgins is a myth put about by recruiting sergeants, esp. for young impressionable suicide bombers. Suicide is forbidden in Islam.
They also don't get 72 virgins after death because ... well, they are dead.

In all this "Picture" approach to discussion is pretty awful. And contains more bigotry than commentary.
Are those contributors still weaning from picture books to those with writing?

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[MJB12741]

As Sweet_Caroline has presented here, this is taken directly from the Hadith, the Prophet Mohammed's own words. Is there anyone among us who can claim this is just some anti-Islam biased source or just some Zionist propaganda? Like it or not, believe it folks, 72 virgins according to Mohammed.

Hadith and the Prophet Muhammad



QUOTE=Sweet_Caroline;9070182]Authenticity of 72 Virgins Hadith - WikiIslam[/QUOTE]

 

[Beelzebub]

I have read that, and of course - it is written -

But it was still something that conflicts with instructions that Suicide are forbidden.

But the real clincher. The ultimate knock-down for getting 72 virgins after death is, as I said.
They are dead.

Q.E.D.

PS: Anyone want to argue that one?

 

[montelatici]

"This teaching is nowhere to be found in The Quran. It is a tradition associated with the reported sayings of prophet Muhammad, as recorded by others."

Misconception: Martyrs will receive 72 virgins in paradise

 

[Beelzebub]

I still find the "being dead" more convincing.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

I still find the "being dead" more convincing.

There is eternal life in heaven for those who commit jihad and can meet their virgins.

 

[Beelzebub]

Do you actually believe that Caroline?

I ask seriously, not rhetorically. That Muslims go to heaven, and it is as described in their books?

 

[Lipush]

Do you actually believe that Caroline?

I ask seriously, not rhetorically. That Muslims go to heaven, and it is as described in their books?

Dude. You really cannot identify sarcasm even if it bites you in your....

Never mind.

 

[aris2chat]

FGM is not compulsory in Islam. Some sects practice it. Most don't

The Hijab, hiqab and burka: none of them are compulsory by Islam. Modesty is, unless in private or with the same sex.

The 72 virgins is a myth put about by recruiting sergeants, esp. for young impressionable suicide bombers. Suicide is forbidden in Islam.
They also don't get 72 virgins after death because ... well, they are dead.

In all this "Picture" approach to discussion is pretty awful. And contains more bigotry than commentary.
Are those contributors still weaning from picture books to those with writing?

Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' "
Sunan Ibn Majah, Zuhd (Book of Abstinence) 39
It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard the Prophet Muhammad PBUH saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a.
Al-Tirmidhi, Vol. 4, Ch. 21, No. 2687
Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.
Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur'an, p. 351
Anas said, Allah be well-pleased with him: The Messenger of Allah said, upon him blessings and peace: “The servant in Paradise shall be married with seventy wives.” Someone said, “Messenger of Allah, can he bear it?” He said: “He will be given strength for a hundred.” From Zayd ibn Arqam, Allah be well-pleased with him, when an incredulous Jew or Christian asked the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, “Are you claiming that a man will eat and drink in Paradise??” He replied: “Yes, by the One in Whose hand is my soul, and each of them will be given the strength of a hundred men in his eating, drinking, coitus, and pleasure.”
Sifat al-Janna, al-`Uqayli in the Du`afa’, and Musnad of Abu Bakr al-Bazzar
This [Qur'an 78:33] means round breasts. They meant by this that the breasts of these girls will be fully rounded and not sagging, because they will be virgins, equal in age.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Abridged, Volume 10 Surat At-Tagabun to the end of the Qur'an, 333-334

Quran verse 56:36, 56:22, 78:33
Sahih Bukhari 1:5:268

 

[Roudy]

FGM is not compulsory in Islam. Some sects practice it. Most don't

The Hijab, hiqab and burka: none of them are compulsory by Islam. Modesty is, unless in private or with the same sex.

The 72 virgins is a myth put about by recruiting sergeants, esp. for young impressionable suicide bombers. Suicide is forbidden in Islam.
They also don't get 72 virgins after death because ... well, they are dead.

In all this "Picture" approach to discussion is pretty awful. And contains more bigotry than commentary.
Are those contributors still weaning from picture books to those with writing?

Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' "
Sunan Ibn Majah, Zuhd (Book of Abstinence) 39
It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard the Prophet Muhammad PBUH saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a.
Al-Tirmidhi, Vol. 4, Ch. 21, No. 2687
Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.
Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur'an, p. 351
Anas said, Allah be well-pleased with him: The Messenger of Allah said, upon him blessings and peace: “The servant in Paradise shall be married with seventy wives.” Someone said, “Messenger of Allah, can he bear it?” He said: “He will be given strength for a hundred.” From Zayd ibn Arqam, Allah be well-pleased with him, when an incredulous Jew or Christian asked the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, “Are you claiming that a man will eat and drink in Paradise??” He replied: “Yes, by the One in Whose hand is my soul, and each of them will be given the strength of a hundred men in his eating, drinking, coitus, and pleasure.”
Sifat al-Janna, al-`Uqayli in the Du`afa’, and Musnad of Abu Bakr al-Bazzar
This [Qur'an 78:33] means round breasts. They meant by this that the breasts of these girls will be fully rounded and not sagging, because they will be virgins, equal in age.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Abridged, Volume 10 Surat At-Tagabun to the end of the Qur'an, 333-334

Quran verse 56:36, 56:22, 78:33
Sahih Bukhari 1:5:268

Can we get an Allah Akbar to that?

 

[Beelzebub]

Do you actually believe that Caroline?

I ask seriously, not rhetorically. That Muslims go to heaven, and it is as described in their books?

Dude. You really cannot identify sarcasm even if it bites you in your....

Never mind.

I am still interested in your answer to my question.
I propose that they, being dead, get no 72 virgins.

Do you agree with that, or do you think they have an afterlife and a realistic hope of anything that is written in their holy book.

Being that they have the same god as Christianity and Judaism, and that all the books have their own self contradictory and occasionally whacko passages, do you think they get their virgins? Or anything?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Do you actually believe that Caroline?

I ask seriously, not rhetorically. That Muslims go to heaven, and it is as described in their books?

I don't but they do, which is why they aspire to be martyrs. Little do they know they don't go upstairs, but downstairs.

 

[Beelzebub]

Well I don't see why. If they have followed all the tenants of their faith.

Are you suggesting that God has an ethnic leaning too?

 

[Lipush]

Do you actually believe that Caroline?

I ask seriously, not rhetorically. That Muslims go to heaven, and it is as described in their books?

Dude. You really cannot identify sarcasm even if it bites you in your....

Never mind.

I am still interested in your answer to my question.
I propose that they, being dead, get no 72 virgins.

Do you agree with that, or do you think they have an afterlife and a realistic hope of anything that is written in their holy book.

Being that they have the same god as Christianity and Judaism, and that all the books have their own self contradictory and occasionally whacko passages, do you think they get their virgins? Or anything?

That question wasn't adressed to me, but to Caroline.

Sorry to disappoint you, but we're still not the same person, though I don't have a problem with the comparison.

So do you want an honest answer from me or from Caroline?

 

[Lipush]

Do you actually believe that Caroline?

I ask seriously, not rhetorically. That Muslims go to heaven, and it is as described in their books?

I don't but they do, which is why they aspire to be martyrs. Little do they know they don't go upstairs, but downstairs.

People should stand corrected, it's not 72 virgins, but a virgin at the age of 72

 

[Vigilante]

 

[Vigilante]

 

[Hossfly]

Do you actually believe that Caroline?

I ask seriously, not rhetorically. That Muslims go to heaven, and it is as described in their books?

I don't but they do, which is why they aspire to be martyrs. Little do they know they don't go upstairs, but downstairs.

People should stand corrected, it's not 72 virgins, but a virgin at the age of 72

Lipush, there's another possibility A misunderstanding. Here's an example




When Obama died, George Washington met him at the Pearly Gates. He slapped him across the face and yelled, "How dare you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive?"

Patrick Henry approached, punched him in the nose and shouted, "You wanted to end our liberties but you failed."

James Madison followed, kicked him in the groin and said, "This is why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!"

Thomas Jefferson was next, beat Obama with a long cane and snarled, "It was evil men like you who inspired me to write the Declaration of Independence."

The beatings and thrashings continued as George Mason, James Monroe and 66 other early Americans unleashed their anger on the radical, socialist, leader.

As Obama lay bleeding and in pain, an Angel appeared. Obama wept and said, "This is not what you promised me."

The Angel replied, "I told you there would be 72 VIRGINIANS waiting for you in Heaven. What did you think I said"....."You really need to listen when someone is trying to tell you something!"

 

[Beelzebub]

Dude. You really cannot identify sarcasm even if it bites you in your....

Never mind.

I am still interested in your answer to my question.
I propose that they, being dead, get no 72 virgins.

Do you agree with that, or do you think they have an afterlife and a realistic hope of anything that is written in their holy book.

Being that they have the same god as Christianity and Judaism, and that all the books have their own self contradictory and occasionally whacko passages, do you think they get their virgins? Or anything?

That question wasn't adressed to me, but to Caroline.

Sorry to disappoint you, but we're still not the same person, though I don't have a problem with the comparison.

So do you want an honest answer from me or from Caroline?

Oops.

All you Zionists look alike to me.

From you please Lipush, since you ask so nicely.
And Caroline too if you are willing.

 

[Vigilante]