Which political party is more likely to spawn WW3? (Poll)

[g5000]

It is literally impossible for Diaper Don to criticize his man crush KGB Putin. Trump has attacked just about everyone in America and Europe at one point or another, and yet cannot bring himself to attack a mass murderer.

Trump is also China's biggest friend.

"Too many jobs in China lost".​

Ivanka’s Trademark Requests Were Fast-Tracked In China After Trump Was Elected​

The Chinese government granted a total of 41 trademarks to companies linked to Ivanka Trump by April of 2019—and the trademarks she applied for after her father became president got approved about 40% faster than those she requested before Donald Trump’s victory in the 2016 election


On March 29, 2017, Ivanka Trump, the eldest daughter of President Trump, became an official government employee, joining her husband, Jared Kushner, as an adviser to her father.

The day before that appointment, Ivanka applied for 17 new trademarks with the Chinese government.

In early May of 2018, ZTE, a Chinese electronics maker, said that it had halted “major operating activities” after being penalized by the United States Department of Commerce for breaking sanctions and selling electronics to Iran and North Korea.

Yet, in mid-May, President Trump surprisingly reversed course when he indicated a willingness to rethink the punishment and vowed to work with Chinese President Xi Jinping to prevent the collapse of the ZTE, which employs 75,000 people, with Trump tweeting, “Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!”

That same month, May of 2018, amid tense trade negotiations between China and the United States, China approved seven Ivanka trademarks, according to Alexander’s book, White House, Inc.

 

[SweetTea]

Wow. Your propagandists really keep you hacks in the dark, don't they.

Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology​

US, Japan, South Korea Launch Forum to Cut Off Chips to China​

In the Tech War with China, the U.S. Is Finding Friends​

On October 7, 2022, the Biden Administration unilaterally imposed a set of export controls that restrict sales to China of advanced computer chips designed for running Artificial Intelligence applications and military supercomputers as well as the manufacturing equipment for making those chips. Since U.S. companies design more than 95% of the AI chips that are used in China, and also produce manufacturing equipment that is used in every single Chinese chip factory, these export controls pose an extraordinary obstacle to China’s ambitions to lead the world in AI technology and to achieve self-sufficiency in semiconductors.

However, the export controls were also a major diplomatic gamble. If the U.S. forced U.S. industry to stop selling advanced chips and chip-making equipment to China, only for other countries to step in and replace the United States, the policy would have dealt a major blow to U.S. industry. The U.S. would suffer a huge loss of market share and revenue in China and gain in return only a fleeting national security benefit, perhaps setting China back only a matter of months. The policy’s success depended entirely upon persuading U.S. allies—particularly Taiwan, the Netherlands, and Japan—to follow the U.S. lead and adopt similar export control regulations.

[snip]


In late January, the Biden Administration secured a remarkable diplomatic victory: a deal with the Netherlands and Japan to establish multilateral semiconductor technology export controls on China.




Boy! That sure is different from Trump refusing to sanction ZTE so the CCP could contribute $500 million to a Trump resort in Indonesia, doesn't it!

That sure looks different from Trump refusing to sanction ZTE so his daughter could get some trademarks in China, doesn't it!


And how did ZTE pay Trump back?

By building a Chinese spy base in Cuba.

And yet Chinese nationals are crossing our Southern border in record numbers. Hunter received a lot of money from China. Biden won't even mention the origins of COVID for fear of pissing them off. You are being played like a fiddle, but a usual, Democrats don't get it.

 

[SweetTea]

a great plan. since the first part seems to be stalled, expect to see some yuuuuuge offensives in the pro trump propaganda.

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The GOP is Putin's party.

 

[rightwinger]

Ukraine is not going to win regardless of how much aid we give them. We are throwing money and military supplies down the drain, which is exactly what Russia and China want us to continue doing. Zelensky may even be in on the scam, not sure on that yet. It isn't as if the Ukraine isn't known for corruption or anything. Russia and China rely on the pure ignorance and elementary myopic views of the Democratic voter in the US.

We are more economically capable of sustaining military support to Ukraine than Putin is economically capable of sustaining an invasion with a military force he cannot support.

Putin’s only option for long term success is for Trump and Republicans to pull support of his adversary

 

[g5000]

Hunter received a lot of money from China.

Nowhere near as much as Diaper Don has!

"Too many jobs in China lost."

 

[rampart]

Ukraine is not going to win regardless of how much aid we give them. We are throwing money and military supplies down the drain, which is exactly what Russia and China want us to continue doing. Zelensky may even be in on the scam, not sure on that yet. It isn't as if the Ukraine isn't known for corruption or anything. Russia and China rely on the pure ignorance and elementary myopic views of the Democratic voter in the US.

militarily the ukranians are the 300 spartans. they will eventually lose, but the TIME we are buying on the steppes is allowing nato to strengthen and prepare.

not a great plan, but i can't think of a better one (and neither can trump.) this allows time for that as well.

"time is money" j p morgan

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump has received far more money from China than any other American politician.

 

[g5000]

Trump has received far more money from China than any other American politician.

Even worse, he had the CCP's bank renting space in his tower while he was president!

They left after he left the White House.

Comer squashed the investigation into that.

 

[SweetTea]

Trump has received far more money from China than any other American politician.

What goods and services were provided by Trump vs Hunter?

 

[rampart]

Wow. Your propagandists really keep you hacks in the dark, don't they.

Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology​

US, Japan, South Korea Launch Forum to Cut Off Chips to China​

In the Tech War with China, the U.S. Is Finding Friends​

On October 7, 2022, the Biden Administration unilaterally imposed a set of export controls that restrict sales to China of advanced computer chips designed for running Artificial Intelligence applications and military supercomputers as well as the manufacturing equipment for making those chips. Since U.S. companies design more than 95% of the AI chips that are used in China, and also produce manufacturing equipment that is used in every single Chinese chip factory, these export controls pose an extraordinary obstacle to China’s ambitions to lead the world in AI technology and to achieve self-sufficiency in semiconductors.

However, the export controls were also a major diplomatic gamble. If the U.S. forced U.S. industry to stop selling advanced chips and chip-making equipment to China, only for other countries to step in and replace the United States, the policy would have dealt a major blow to U.S. industry. The U.S. would suffer a huge loss of market share and revenue in China and gain in return only a fleeting national security benefit, perhaps setting China back only a matter of months. The policy’s success depended entirely upon persuading U.S. allies—particularly Taiwan, the Netherlands, and Japan—to follow the U.S. lead and adopt similar export control regulations.

[snip]


In late January, the Biden Administration secured a remarkable diplomatic victory: a deal with the Netherlands and Japan to establish multilateral semiconductor technology export controls on China.




Boy! That sure is different from Trump refusing to sanction ZTE so the CCP could contribute $500 million to a Trump resort in Indonesia, doesn't it!

That sure looks different from Trump refusing to sanction ZTE so his daughter could get some trademarks in China, doesn't it!


And how did ZTE pay Trump back?

By building a Chinese spy base in Cuba.

i agree that ukraine can never win as long as doing so WOULD initiate a first strike from russia. i don't think they know that.

 

[g5000]

China knows who their friend is. They put on a big show to stroke Diaper Don's ego.

 

[g5000]

 

[g5000]

"China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large a-brain."

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

What goods and services were provided by Trump vs Hunter?

Go research it and feel ashamed.

 

[konradv]

The Saudis completely reject a caliphate. What are you talking about?

So they say. Have they opened Mecca to tourism? I don’t accept culture as the reason for why Islam can’t act like we do in the West. Islam destroys culture and replaces it with a death cult.

 

[Resnic]

Right now it's a toss up.

Democrats because they fund wars to line pockets and to use them as excuses for doing what they want. They might take things too far and set one country off and a chain reaction could occur.

Republicans because they don't want to fund wars which might piss off people who want to launder that money for themselves, or might draw out one country into a war knowing the US isn't backing their enemy.

Honestly though if trump becomes president I don't think it would happen as likely because other countries know he means business and won't stand for nonsense. He seeks peace, he doesn't shovel money into other people's conflicts like we have done for Ukraine, he will shore up our military might, and he will help keep other nations in check

 

[candycorn]

I really have to question myself for even putting "moral" and "Democrats" in the same sentence.

Well you’re a pretty questionable person.

I’ll ask you what I ask everyone who talks about massive voter fraud.

How did the GOP gain seats in the House if the Democrats were committing voter fraud? The GOP gained a seat in Michigan--a swing state. Supposedly all of this fraud was taking place...can you explain why the fraudsters didn’t just check a box for whomever the Democrats were running or at least for the libertarians or other parties?

Remember, this is your accusation. I’m not putting words in your mouth. I’m just asking your to explain this.

 

[candycorn]

Hmmm I guess nobody can explain how the GOP picked up seats when the Democrats were supposedly cheating.

 

[Mac-7]

...a link from 2019:

World War III: Next U.S. Fight May Be in One of These Five Countries

President Donald Trump frequently reminds us that "all options are on the table" in enforcing U.S. policy, could that lead to war in Iran, North Korea, Syria, Ukraine or Venezuela?

www.newsweek.com

Moreover, China—largely a third party during the Cold War—has emerged as the U.S.'s foremost economic challenger, and has answered Russia's calls for closer ties, including in the military realm.

So in 2019 China didn't make the list of threats to start WW3. Has China's threats to take Taiwan moved the needle closer to WW3 now?
North Korea is now making aggressive threats against South Korea. NK should have been on the list.

This thread wants to discuss the probability of WW3 based on which party is in the Whitehouse.

1. If Joe Biden wins a 2nd term: (I don't see Michele Obama or Gavin Newsome replacing Biden so late in the cycle)
Biden's WH is less likely to take action to limit aggressive moves by aggressor nations, like Russia in Ukraine, China in Taiwan, NK against SK, or Iran in the ME. The formation of the BRIC nations has limited the US as far as imposing crippling sanctions on aggressor nations, leaving limited military action as the only punishing action available. The US is NOT the world's policeman. The feckless UN is no help either.

2. If Trump, Nikki Haley, or Ron Desantis win the Whitehouse in 2024:
Would Republican foreign policies be more aggressive toward aggressor nations?
Would the Republican led US make the world safer or would they move the world closer to WW3?

Which party, R or D, is more likely to trigger WW3 after winning the 2024 election?

Perceived weakness usually starts wars when a thug nation goes too far

The most likely thug right now is communist china, and the flashpoint is Taiwan

Biden looks weak and that invites china to make a move