Where education went wrong.

[Zincwarrior]

Never mind. Come back after reading Intellectuals and Society.

Your surrender is accepted.

 

[DGS49]

Most engineers I know are pretty intellectual. Most academics I know, even snooty irritating ones, have respect for tradesmen. The few I've met who don't have such respect have gotten the message to get the hell away from me upon pain of bodily damage.

Seriously, do you know ANY engineers or physicians who have ever read a novel? I have not. They are often brilliant, but do not come across as "intellectual." In fact, in the case of doctors, many of them presume that because they are brilliant, they know shit that they manifestly do not know. It is an irritation.

 

[Unkotare]

Seriously, do you know ANY engineers or physicians who have ever read a novel? ....

Of course. I know several physicians who have WRITTEN novels.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Seriously, do you know ANY engineers or physicians who have ever read a novel? I have not. They are often brilliant, but do not come across as "intellectual." In fact, in the case of doctors, many of them presume that because they are brilliant, they know shit that they manifestly do not know. It is an irritation.

You are an idiot. Dad read all the time.

 

[DGS49]

Of course. I know several physicians who have WRITTEN novels.

As I have observed before, you are an inveterate liar.

 

[DGS49]

You are an idiot. Dad read all the time.

So you draw general conclusions about a large class of people by your observations of ONE OF THEM?

Nice. Assuming your dad was an engineer, you apparently did not inherit his intelligence.

BTW, I worked for a dozen engineering companies during my spotted career, and met ONE who read fiction - an Englishman.

 

[Unkotare]

As I have observed before, you are an inveterate liar.

You think you are important enough to lie to? Get over yourself.

 

[Zincwarrior]

So you draw general conclusions about a large class of people by your observations of ONE OF THEM?

Nice. Assuming your dad was an engineer, you apparently did not inherit his intelligence.

BTW, I worked for a dozen engineering companies during my spotted career, and met ONE who read fiction - an Englishman.

You appear to be.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Seriously, do you know ANY engineers or physicians who have ever read a novel? I have not. They are often brilliant, but do not come across as "intellectual." In fact, in the case of doctors, many of them presume that because they are brilliant, they know shit that they manifestly do not know. It is an irritation.

As I have observed before, you are an inveterate liar.

Michael Crighton and Arthur Conan Doyle, off the top of my head, were physicians.

 

[Blues Man]

A doctor doesn't need to know how to build a bridge. An engineer doesn't need to know how to cure cancer.

The vast majority of Drs don't know how to cure cancer.

We put far too much faith in Drs ; all they really do is push pills for big pharma

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

As a retired steelworker I have little respect for college-educated intellectuals. These types accumulate letters after their names and though they occupy positions of influence, as time goes by they are no more able to make sense of the world than the plebian population. If an olympic runner can break records in youth that is good thing but later in life that runner canot break records because the talent has wained due to time and age. But academic intellectuals that suffer from the same reality are not held to the same standards as the rest of the population and so, do a lot of damage to society. As the age they get dumber and that is reality.

Here are two authors that influenced me in life:

Key insights from: The True Believer

Eric Hoffer (1902-1983) was a longshoreman for decades, loading and unloading cargo from ships. He was also a farmer, a railway man, and a lay scholar. After being temporarily blinded from ages 7 to 15, he read voraciously for fear that the blindness might return. Hoffer was also a prolific...

thinkr.org

http://www.capitolreader.com/bonus/Intellectuals%20and%20Society.pdf

Not to worry, big guy. They have little respect for you.

 

[Woodznutz]

Maybe the lamest thing I have ever seen on here. I have zero doubt that anyone who holds a similar position runs quickly to a person with letters after their name when they feel a lump somewhere that doesn't belong there.

A person that educates himself his entire working life with the newest medical advancements.

They run for their little blue pill that was created by a person with letters after their names.

The problem is that many with letters after their name are paid well beyond their worth. Those with medical degrees have done little to advance the health of the people. Instead, the take advantage of the people's ignorance about health.

 

[pknopp]

The problem is that many with letters after their name are paid well beyond their worth. Those with medical degrees have done little to advance the health of the people. Instead, the take advantage of the people's ignorance about health.

We need to turn more to those with worms in their brains I guess........

 

[Woodznutz]

We need to turn more to those with worms in their brains I guess........

I don't know where we should turn as every turn seems to be a dead end.

 

[pknopp]

I don't know where we should turn as every turn seems to be a dead end.

A dead end? We have made huge strides in things like cancer treatment. The list is long. A guy I know just had his pacemaker replaced at 90. For him anything but a dead end.

 

[Woodznutz]

A dead end? We have made huge strides in things like cancer treatment. The list is long. A guy I know just had his pacemaker replaced at 90. For him anything but a dead end.

There is a disconnect when it comes to the general health of the country.

Why is the US still in such poor health, despite its wealth?

A decade ago, a study showed that the US had the lowest life expectancy among high-income countries. Why are things still getting worse, asks Laudan Aron

www.newscientist.com

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The problem is that many with letters after their name are paid well beyond their worth. Those with medical degrees have done little to advance the health of the people. Instead, the take advantage of the people's ignorance about health.

Anti-intellectual and anti-knowledge suit you well.

 

[Woodznutz]

Anti-intellectual and anti-knowledge suit you well.

I do see life in simple terms. If I don't like something I can usually change it.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Double Entry Accounting is SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS old.

Education went wrong by not making it mandatory in high school since 1950.

It is totally absurd that economists have not been talking about planned obsolescence since Sputnik.

What is the NET Domestic Product?

What has happened to the depreciation of all of the Automobiles purchased by American consumers since 1950? John Maynard Keynes never saw a television commercial for an automobile. ChatGPT says 650+ million cars have been made in the US since 1950.

So here we are half-a-century after the Moon landing and PhD economists cannot even talk about hundreds of billions of dollars of Depreciation.

But look what happened to the price of the Ford Model-T from 1908 to 1925. How much could Americans have saved by not getting excited about useless variations?

 

[psikeyhackr]

As a retired steelworker I have little respect for college-educated intellectuals. These types accumulate letters after their names and though they occupy positions of influence, as time goes by they are no more able to make sense of the world than the plebian population.

I think we need to distinguish between intellectuals and pseudo-intellectuals. There are plenty of the latter talking bullshit.