What's Defined As A Hate Crime?

[ChristisKing]

As it only seems to happen to you if you're black or mentally ill. So I'm confused. Still I'm glad that justice was served, but would it have been if the roles had been reversed and a black person was antagonizing a white person?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

As it only seems to happen to you if you're black or mentally ill. So I'm confused. Still I'm glad that justice was served, but would it have been if the roles had been reversed and a black person was antagonizing a white person?


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This old news. This happened in 2015! For those of you counting, that was over 10 years ago.

Why are you dredging this up now?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It isn't the IDEA of a hate crime that bothers me, only the interpretation thereof.

A hate crime involves the targeting of people due to their race, ethnicity, sexuality or some other fixed factor. It is distinguishable from a crime of passion by the fact the victim is not known to the perp.

These acts are intended to intimidate an entire community rather than just a specific person, so carry some extra weight because of that.

The real problem involving hate crimes is that some people are scrutinized to the nth degree for any sign of a hate crime while others have what amounts to a free pass. That's why the system is so fucked up, because the same standards are not applied to all people equally.

 

[ChristisKing]

This old news. This happened in 2015! For those of you counting, that was over 10 years ago.

Why are you dredging this up now?

It popped up on YouTube. My question isn't related to this event only/specifically though.

A hate crime involves the targeting of people due to their race, ethnicity, sexuality or some other fixed factor. It is distinguishable from a crime of passion by the fact the victim is not known to the perp.

Right, so what if you're a straight white Christian?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Right, so what if you're a straight white Christian?

If you are a straight, white Christian, you will be judged by an entirely different standard than many others, both in terms of perp as well as victim.

 

[Meathead]

If you are a straight, white Christian, you will be judged by an entirely different standard than many others, both in terms of perp as well as victim.

A hate crime, by definition, should be a violent crime resulting of the hate of another individual. We are stuck in the PC world's definition.

 

[toobfreak]

What's Defined As A Hate Crime?​

There is no such thing. The 'Hate Crime' thing was just invented by people looking for a legal vehicle by which to tag extra penalties on to certain crimes. Except for three problems:

1. The Hate Crime label has not worked as hoped at discouraging more hate crimes.
2. Technically, all crimes are a crime of passion, so, the hate crime label remains rather nebulous.
3. As Dogmaphobe pointed out, the law merely uses the label to target (or protect) certain groups, but not all equally.

As it only seems to happen to you if you're black or mentally ill. So I'm confused.

I have no idea what possessed that couple to ride down the street carrying on old US flag yelling stuff, but seriously, 20 years in jail for it? That is ridiculous. Now we know why our failed criminal system is both going broke and running out of room to house serious criminals.

 

[toobfreak]

What's Defined As A Hate Crime?​

According to Joe Biden: Anyone voting against the democrat party.

 

[Natural Citizen]

All victims of a crime..any crime.. deserve equality in Legal justice regardless of motivation for committing said crime.

So-called ''hate'' doesn't make a victim of a crime any more or less a victim of a crime.

It's a frivolous question...

 

[DGS49]

"Hate Crime" laws were created for one reason and one reason only: To get around the Fifth Amendment's prohibition of "double jeopardy."

Here's how it works. Someone kills another human and it appears the slaying was the result of Animus related to the demographic group of the victim. The State court fails to convict, or convicts and comes up with a punishment that the Feds think is insufficiently severe. So the Feds bring their own case for a "hate crime" violation.

So not only has a STATE crime been reclassified as a FEDERAL crime - which is bullshit - but the Feds get to second-guess what the State has done if it is not sufficiently woke. And best of all, it is not the same "crime" so double jeopardy doesn't apply.

A crime is a crime. There is no "hate crime" that is not already a crime under State law. The whole concept is bullshit.

 

[Darkwind]

Well, according the brain dead left. it is ONLY a hate crime if it is perpetrated against a historically oppressed mintorit.

Meaning blacks, gays, trans, retards, Professors <-- redundant with retard, I know, and Puerto Ricans.

It can never be equalized because the brain-dead left says it has to exist until all things are equal, except they are brain-dead and a historically oppressed people, EVEN IF THEY ARE THE MAJORITY, will still be historically oppressed.

Because that is how history works.

In other words, they will forever be victims, and if you go 'boo mutherfkr' to loudly, it is a hate crime.

 

[Lockback]

A hate crime is defined as " ... anything that triggers a Democrat."

 

[toobfreak]

So-called ''hate'' doesn't make a victim of a crime any more or less a victim of a crime.

EXACTLY. The violator's frame of mind has no bearing on the matter. Assuming you could even accurately read a person's mind to know his actual state of emotion, in effect, what you are doing here is trying to criminalize "wrong" thinking.

What a person thinks or feels is not the problem here, it is what they DID, the actions or deeds they actually perpetrated.

Two people can think and feel exactly the same things yet each carry out two very different sets of actions from out of it.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

A man can run over 60 people with his SUV, and its not called a hate crime.

Waukesha Christmas parade attack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Islamic terrorists can mass murder 3000 people and its not called a hate crime.

September 11 attacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It has to the correct race to be called a hate crime.

 

[Lockback]

A man can run over 60 people with his SUV, and its not called a hate crime.

Waukesha Christmas parade attack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Islamic terrorists can mass murder 3000 people and its not called a hate crime.

September 11 attacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It has to the correct race to be called a hate crime.

It has to fit the Democrat Party definition: i.e., "white", "male", "heterosexual".

 

[toobfreak]

A man can run over 60 people with his SUV, and its not called a hate crime.
Islamic terrorists can mass murder 3000 people and its not called a hate crime.

Technically, 9/11 was a hate crime.

The 2020 pseudo-election of Joe Biden was subtly a hate crime as well.
--that everyone lived to regret.

 

[Slyhunter]

It isn't the IDEA of a hate crime that bothers me, only the interpretation thereof.

A hate crime involves the targeting of people due to their race, ethnicity, sexuality or some other fixed factor. It is distinguishable from a crime of passion by the fact the victim is not known to the perp.

These acts are intended to intimidate an entire community rather than just a specific person, so carry some extra weight because of that.

The real problem involving hate crimes is that some people are scrutinized to the nth degree for any sign of a hate crime while others have what amounts to a free pass. That's why the system is so fucked up, because the same standards are not applied to all people equally.

hate vs Republicans a hate crime?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

hate vs Republicans a hate crime?

No.

 

[egp320i]

As it only seems to happen to you if you're black or mentally ill. So I'm confused. Still I'm glad that justice was served, but would it have been if the roles had been reversed and a black person was antagonizing a white person?


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total overkill, 20 years? not even somebody that murders a person gets that

no harm was done, emotional harm.......,maybe but not physical harm

what a total farce of the justice system, why do THEY get such protection, because they are a minority?

sadly apparently so........

hope they lawyer up and fight this bullshit.........should be just disturbing the peace, wrist slap not hard time

let's guess the judge was likely a black women to punish white people who has some grudge

 

[JOSweetHeart]

One thing that can keep occurrences from being labeled a hate crime is when the perpetrator is under the influence of drugs or alcohol. People who run into groups of people with their vehicles for example are most likely under the influence of something and it most definitely may not be a feeling of hatred.

God bless you always!!!

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