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[berg80]

New data shows, for the first time at this level of detail, how much students’ standardized test scores rise with their parents’ incomes — and how disparities start years before students sit for tests.

One-third of the children of the very richest families scored a 1300 or higher on the SAT, while less than 5 percent of middle-class students did, according to the data, from economists at Opportunity Insights, based at Harvard. Relatively few children in the poorest families scored that high; just one in five took the test at all.

The researchers matched all students’ SAT and ACT scores for 2011, 2013 and 2015 with their parents’ federal income tax records for the prior six years. Their analysis, which also included admissions and attendance records, found that children from very rich families are overrepresented at elite colleges for many reasons, including that admissions offices give them preference. But the test score data highlights a more fundamental reason: When it comes to the types of achievement colleges assess, the children of the rich are simply better prepared.

The disparity highlights the inequality at the heart of American education: Starting very early, children from rich and poor families receive vastly different educations, in and out of school, driven by differences in the amount of money and time their parents are able to invest. And in the last five decades, as the country has become more unequal by income, the gap in children’s academic achievement, as measured by test scores throughout schooling, has widened.
New SAT Data Highlights the Deep Inequality at the Heart of American Education

Is this as it should be? Does higher income correlate to higher intelligence passed on to the offspring of the rich? Should we try to do something about the disparity? Can we? Or is an unenforced caste system a function of a natural order?

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

New data shows, for the first time at this level of detail, how much students’ standardized test scores rise with their parents’ incomes — and how disparities start years before students sit for tests.

One-third of the children of the very richest families scored a 1300 or higher on the SAT, while less than 5 percent of middle-class students did, according to the data, from economists at Opportunity Insights, based at Harvard. Relatively few children in the poorest families scored that high; just one in five took the test at all.

The researchers matched all students’ SAT and ACT scores for 2011, 2013 and 2015 with their parents’ federal income tax records for the prior six years. Their analysis, which also included admissions and attendance records, found that children from very rich families are overrepresented at elite colleges for many reasons, including that admissions offices give them preference. But the test score data highlights a more fundamental reason: When it comes to the types of achievement colleges assess, the children of the rich are simply better prepared.

The disparity highlights the inequality at the heart of American education: Starting very early, children from rich and poor families receive vastly different educations, in and out of school, driven by differences in the amount of money and time their parents are able to invest. And in the last five decades, as the country has become more unequal by income, the gap in children’s academic achievement, as measured by test scores throughout schooling, has widened.
New SAT Data Highlights the Deep Inequality at the Heart of American Education

Is this as it should be? Does higher income correlate to higher intelligence passed on to the offspring of the rich? Should we try to do something about the disparity? Can we? Or is an unenforced caste system a function of a natural order?

every 3rd grader needs to pass a proficiency test to move on..3rd grade is key in determining future academic success...................see how easy a solution this is instead of throwing another trillion to waste

but the left wants these kids to stay stupid and possibly date

no trumpie in your post....call the press

 

[TNHarley]

Yes, better schooling opportunities. The parents probably push them harder. Many things could be at hand here.

 

[berg80]

every 3rd grader needs to pass a proficiency test to move on..3rd grade is key in determining future academic success...................see how easy a solution this is instead of throwing another trillion to waste

but the left wants these kids to stay stupid and possibly date

no trumpie in your post....call the press

Is there a point in response to the thread's topic anywhere in that word salad? I can't find one.

 

[TNHarley]

Im sure the leftist "solution" to this "problem" would be to get rid of better schooling opportunities. You know, equity and all that

 

[berg80]

Class Differences in Child-Rearing Are on the Rise​

The lives of children from rich and poor American families look more different than they have in decades.

Well-off families are ruled by calendars, with children enrolled in ballet, soccer and after-school programs, according to a new Pew Research Center survey. There are usually two parents, who spend a lot of time reading to children and worrying about their anxiety levels and hectic schedules.

In poor families, however, children tend to spend their time at home or with extended family, the survey found. They are more likely to grow up in neighborhoods that their parents say aren’t great for raising children, and their parents worry about them getting shot, beaten up or in trouble with the law.

The class differences in child rearing are growing, researchers say — a symptom of widening inequality with far-reaching consequences. Different upbringings set children on different paths and can deepen socioeconomic divisions, especially because education is strongly linked to earnings. Children grow up learning the skills to succeed in their socioeconomic stratum, but not necessarily others.

Class Differences in Child-Rearing Are on the Rise (Published 2015)

Children grow up learning the skills to succeed in their socioeconomic stratum, but not necessarily others, which can deepen class divisions.

www.nytimes.com

 

[DGS49]

My God, how is it possible to miss the obvious so thoroughly?

It's all about IQ.

People with a high IQ tend to be successful; successful people tend to have high IQ's. People with high IQ's tend to marry each other, and their offspring tend to have high IQ's. This phenomenon has increased in recent generations...in the 50's and 60's, successful male college students (e.g., graduate engineers) would come back home and marry their HS sweethearts, who were unlikely to have comparable IQ's, so their offspring tended to be a little above average but not dramatically so. In recent years, high-achieving college grads wait longer to get married, and now they marry other high-achieving college "co-eds."

Back to the article mentioned above. Children of people with "high incomes" tend to do a lot better on standardized tests than children of people with modest incomes.

Duh!

What the fuck would you expect?????

 

[TNHarley]

Class Differences in Child-Rearing Are on the Rise​

The lives of children from rich and poor American families look more different than they have in decades.

Well-off families are ruled by calendars, with children enrolled in ballet, soccer and after-school programs, according to a new Pew Research Center survey. There are usually two parents, who spend a lot of time reading to children and worrying about their anxiety levels and hectic schedules.

In poor families, however, children tend to spend their time at home or with extended family, the survey found. They are more likely to grow up in neighborhoods that their parents say aren’t great for raising children, and their parents worry about them getting shot, beaten up or in trouble with the law.

The class differences in child rearing are growing, researchers say — a symptom of widening inequality with far-reaching consequences. Different upbringings set children on different paths and can deepen socioeconomic divisions, especially because education is strongly linked to earnings. Children grow up learning the skills to succeed in their socioeconomic stratum, but not necessarily others.

Class Differences in Child-Rearing Are on the Rise (Published 2015)

Children grow up learning the skills to succeed in their socioeconomic stratum, but not necessarily others, which can deepen class divisions.

www.nytimes.com

Lets destroy nice neighborhoods and dedicated parents!

 

[berg80]

Im sure the leftist "solution" to this "problem" would be to get rid of better schooling opportunities. You know, equity and all that

Why do you feel the reflexive need to come up with a fictional reason to bash "leftists?" Can't we avoid the finger pointing for just one thread?

 

[berg80]

Lets destroy nice neighborhoods and dedicated parents!

It's sad that you have a need to respond in this way. Nothing to say about the subject?

 

[Burgermeister]

No shit. Water is wet, too. This is why many parents sacrifice to live in better school districts.

The government can't make their plantation cities attractive to good teachers, it can't make parents good parents, and it can't make kids value education and respect authority.

 

[berg80]

My God, how is it possible to miss the obvious so thoroughly?

It's all about IQ.

People with a high IQ tend to be successful; successful people tend to have high IQ's. People with high IQ's tend to marry each other, and their offspring tend to have high IQ's. This phenomenon has increased in recent generations...in the 50's and 60's, successful male college students (e.g., graduate engineers) would come back home and marry their HS sweethearts, who were unlikely to have comparable IQ's, so their offspring tended to be a little above average but not dramatically so. In recent years, high-achieving college grads wait longer to get married, and now they marry other high-achieving college "co-eds."

Back to the article mentioned above. Children of people with "high incomes" tend to do a lot better on standardized tests than children of people with modest incomes.

Duh!

What the fuck would you expect?????

No one missed the obvious conclusion. The thread was written to ask whether anything should/could be done or if the disparity is even seen as a problem. Relax.

 

[Votto]

It's sad that you have a need to respond in this way. Nothing to say about the subject?

We need higher taxes, more government control over education, and less school choice so that all children are educated the same so that they are think the same and all have the same opportunities, whether those opportunities are good or bad or just average. Only then will we achieve utopia.

Happy? Make you feel good does it?

 

[berg80]

We need higher taxes, more government control over education, and less school choice so that all children are educated the same so that they are think the same and all have the same opportunities, whether those opportunities are good or bad or just average. Only then will we achieve utopia.

Happy? Make you feel good does it?

I'll add your reply to the list of folks just making hate filled shit up instead of addressing the subject in a serious way.

 

[berg80]

But the larger inequality is between the children of the merely rich and those below them. As class differences have grown more extreme, and a college degree has become more crucial to achieving a middle-class lifestyle or better, it has bred competition among parents anxious about their children’s futures.

“People are kind of jockeying to get into the school district that they think is going to be most beneficial for their kid,” said Ann Owens, a professor of sociology at the University of Southern California, who studies inequality in education. “A lot of this is driven by rising income inequality. When people have more money to spend on stuff, they’re spending it on moving to an affluent neighborhood, or buying their kids test prep and tutors and all these things they think will help them.”

Should society be doing more about income inequality?

 

[Votto]

But the larger inequality is between the children of the merely rich and those below them. As class differences have grown more extreme, and a college degree has become more crucial to achieving a middle-class lifestyle or better, it has bred competition among parents anxious about their children’s futures.

“People are kind of jockeying to get into the school district that they think is going to be most beneficial for their kid,” said Ann Owens, a professor of sociology at the University of Southern California, who studies inequality in education. “A lot of this is driven by rising income inequality. When people have more money to spend on stuff, they’re spending it on moving to an affluent neighborhood, or buying their kids test prep and tutors and all these things they think will help them.”

Should society be doing more about income inequality?

Should the average citizen be able to attend the schools that the Obama girls attend?

You say yes, the Swamp says no.

Now, back to your partisan hackery of putting hypocrites like Obama back into power.

 

[TNHarley]

It's sad that you have a need to respond in this way. Nothing to say about the subject?

What are you supposed to say? This is going to happen.
What is the point of the thread?

 

[berg80]

Should the average citizen be able to attend the schools that the Obama girls attend?

You say yes,

Where did I say yes?

 

[berg80]

What is the point of the thread?

The same point of all the threads. Encourage discussion of the subject. Unfortunately, you folks can't get off the drumbeat of "who cares what the topic is, the left sucks."

 

[TNHarley]

The same point of all the threads. Encourage discussion of the subject. Unfortunately, you folks can't get off the drumbeat of "who cares what the topic is, the left sucks."

Discussion of what? That smart people generally have a bigger sense of responsibility? Smart people tend to be more successful? WHAT?
You are talking about trying to do something about the "disparity" so how do you do that without the stupid equity BS?