What Kind of State in Israel?

[Hossfly]

MJ would likely call that the "Arab mentality" but freedom, justice, equality and tolerance might not be the lifestyle to which they aspire. It's their choice. Unfortunately many who leave the Arab World, ostensibly for a better life, often take those pathologies with them and try to erect their Sharia World in the West. Pity, really.

Religious/political fundamentalists of all stripes pose a serious threat to freedom, justice, equality, and tolerance everywhere including Israel. Israel began as a socialist state deeply committed to equality of at least all of its Jewish citizens, at least.

That has changed since the fall of the Soviet Union.
There are some kosher authoritarians rising in Israel that can rival any Arabs.
For example, I've just heard on the radio that 17% to 18% of Israeli families control the majority of wealth in that country, and Israel's security complex currently owns 51% of the Jewish state.

That would seem to pose some potent pathological problems for the Jews?

Pathetic rationalization. Israel will sort out the nature of its democracy once the Arab threat has been removed. The Arab states, as you noted, simply trade one authoritarian tyranny for the next.

I am wondering, Sayit, where Georgie Boy gets radio programs that have told him what he just posted. Would our own radio stations, even the ones reporting on the news of the world, talk about the percentage of people owning the wealth in Israel. Maybe Georgie Boy should contact Carlos Slim in Mexico, reportedly the world's richest man, and ask him what percentage of Mexicans own the wealth in Mexico. Meanwhile, Georgie Boy doesn't seem to realize that most of the land in the U.S. is owned by the government and is administered by the Bureau of Land Management just as the majority of the land in Israel is administered by the Jewish National Fund. Georgie Boy actually sounds like some disgrunted, bitter Palestinian man who settled in the U.S. (perhaps for the benefits he would get).

 

[P F Tinmore]

Religious/political fundamentalists of all stripes pose a serious threat to freedom, justice, equality, and tolerance everywhere including Israel. Israel began as a socialist state deeply committed to equality of at least all of its Jewish citizens, at least.

That has changed since the fall of the Soviet Union.
There are some kosher authoritarians rising in Israel that can rival any Arabs.
For example, I've just heard on the radio that 17% to 18% of Israeli families control the majority of wealth in that country, and Israel's security complex currently owns 51% of the Jewish state.

That would seem to pose some potent pathological problems for the Jews?

Pathetic rationalization. Israel will sort out the nature of its democracy once the Arab threat has been removed. The Arab states, as you noted, simply trade one authoritarian tyranny for the next.

I am wondering, Sayit, where Georgie Boy gets radio programs that have told him what he just posted. Would our own radio stations, even the ones reporting on the news of the world, talk about the percentage of people owning the wealth in Israel. Maybe Georgie Boy should contact Carlos Slim in Mexico, reportedly the world's richest man, and ask him what percentage of Mexicans own the wealth in Mexico. Meanwhile, Georgie Boy doesn't seem to realize that most of the land in the U.S. is owned by the government and is administered by the Bureau of Land Management just as the majority of the land in Israel is administered by the Jewish National Fund. Georgie Boy actually sounds like some disgrunted, bitter Palestinian man who settled in the U.S. (perhaps for the benefits he would get).

the majority of the land in Israel is administered by the Jewish National Fund.

Interesting. Who owns the Jewish National Fund?

 

[Hossfly]

Pathetic rationalization. Israel will sort out the nature of its democracy once the Arab threat has been removed. The Arab states, as you noted, simply trade one authoritarian tyranny for the next.

I am wondering, Sayit, where Georgie Boy gets radio programs that have told him what he just posted. Would our own radio stations, even the ones reporting on the news of the world, talk about the percentage of people owning the wealth in Israel. Maybe Georgie Boy should contact Carlos Slim in Mexico, reportedly the world's richest man, and ask him what percentage of Mexicans own the wealth in Mexico. Meanwhile, Georgie Boy doesn't seem to realize that most of the land in the U.S. is owned by the government and is administered by the Bureau of Land Management just as the majority of the land in Israel is administered by the Jewish National Fund. Georgie Boy actually sounds like some disgrunted, bitter Palestinian man who settled in the U.S. (perhaps for the benefits he would get).

the majority of the land in Israel is administered by the Jewish National Fund.

Interesting. Who owns the Jewish National Fund?

For Sneezy, Dopey, Doc and Tinnie:

Jewish National Fund - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[proudveteran06]

So iro, if the Jews knew what was going to happen in Palestine if they went back there, why did they go there? Didn't have enough shit with Hitler and just wanted to take some more pounding?

This comes from the Pro- Palestinian who tells us that Abbas is " compromising and negotiating" yet when you ask for the link there is nobody home. Consider the source

You're a ******* retard, I've NEVER mentioned Abbas, so go **** yourself, you little zionut.

You're a ******* RETARD. You never mentioned Abbas by name yet you did say that the Palestinians are doing their part and it's Israel's fault. Where's the link? You can't produce it because you're ******* PRO- PALESTINIAN LIAR

 

[SAYIT]

I am wondering, Sayit, where Georgie Boy gets radio programs that have told him what he just posted. Would our own radio stations, even the ones reporting on the news of the world, talk about the percentage of people owning the wealth in Israel. Maybe Georgie Boy should contact Carlos Slim in Mexico, reportedly the world's richest man, and ask him what percentage of Mexicans own the wealth in Mexico. Meanwhile, Georgie Boy doesn't seem to realize that most of the land in the U.S. is owned by the government and is administered by the Bureau of Land Management just as the majority of the land in Israel is administered by the Jewish National Fund. Georgie Boy actually sounds like some disgrunted, bitter Palestinian man who settled in the U.S. (perhaps for the benefits he would get).

the majority of the land in Israel is administered by the Jewish National Fund.

Interesting. Who owns the Jewish National Fund?

For Sneezy, Dopey, Doc and Tinnie:

Jewish National Fund - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Very funny, Hoss. No better way than humor to say "I love you."

 

[Hossfly]

Interesting. Who owns the Jewish National Fund?

For Sneezy, Dopey, Doc and Tinnie:

Jewish National Fund - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Very funny, Hoss. No better way than humor to say "I love you."

I love ol' Tinnie. Really I do. Like a hog loves slop.

 

[georgephillip]

Religious/political fundamentalists of all stripes pose a serious threat to freedom, justice, equality, and tolerance everywhere including Israel. Israel began as a socialist state deeply committed to equality of at least all of its Jewish citizens, at least.

That has changed since the fall of the Soviet Union.
There are some kosher authoritarians rising in Israel that can rival any Arabs.
For example, I've just heard on the radio that 17% to 18% of Israeli families control the majority of wealth in that country, and Israel's security complex currently owns 51% of the Jewish state.

That would seem to pose some potent pathological problems for the Jews?

Pathetic rationalization. Israel will sort out the nature of its democracy once the Arab threat has been removed. The Arab states, as you noted, simply trade one authoritarian tyranny for the next.

I am wondering, Sayit, where Georgie Boy gets radio programs that have told him what he just posted. Would our own radio stations, even the ones reporting on the news of the world, talk about the percentage of people owning the wealth in Israel. Maybe Georgie Boy should contact Carlos Slim in Mexico, reportedly the world's richest man, and ask him what percentage of Mexicans own the wealth in Mexico. Meanwhile, Georgie Boy doesn't seem to realize that most of the land in the U.S. is owned by the government and is administered by the Bureau of Land Management just as the majority of the land in Israel is administered by the Jewish National Fund. Georgie Boy actually sounds like some disgrunted, bitter Palestinian man who settled in the U.S. (perhaps for the benefits he would get).

"Pacifica Radio is a network of five independently operated, non-commercial, listener-supported radio stations known for its progressive/liberal[1][2] political orientation. Launched in 1949 with service in Berkeley, California, it claims to be the world's oldest listener-funded radio network.[3]

"It is also a program service supplying over 100 affiliated stations with various programs, primarily news and public affairs.[citation needed] The first public radio network in the United States, it is operated by the Pacifica Foundation, a non-profit corporation with national headquarters adjoining station KPFA in Berkeley. Programs such as Democracy Now! and Free Speech Radio News are some of its most popular productions.[citation needed]

"The Pacifica Radio Archives, housed at station KPFK in Los Angeles, is the nation's oldest public radio archive,[citation needed] documenting more than five decades of grassroots political, cultural, and performing arts history. The archive includes original recordings of interviews with John Coltrane, James Baldwin, Lorraine Hansberry, and Langston Hughes, among many others."

Pacifica Radio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The content you mentioned came from KPFK's Sunday morning show called "Middle East in Focus."

All shows stream live (sometimes) maybe you should listen in next Sunday?
Invite Rush for a debate??

 

[georgephillip]

What's your point

Five million Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River have a G-d given right to rule six million Arabs?

Member's post seems to say those Jews have the right to live peacefully and productively within secure borders which they have every right to defend.

Jews first have to declare borders before claiming any right to defend them.
What's that Eastern border again?
Damascus??
Baghdad???
Tehran!

 

[Hossfly]

What's your point

Five million Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River have a G-d given right to rule six million Arabs?

Member's post seems to say those Jews have the right to live peacefully and productively within secure borders which they have every right to defend.

Jews first have to declare borders before claiming any right to defend them.
What's that Eastern border again?
Damascus??
Baghdad???
Tehran!

Boca Raton, Sillywilly.

 

[Hossfly]

Pathetic rationalization. Israel will sort out the nature of its democracy once the Arab threat has been removed. The Arab states, as you noted, simply trade one authoritarian tyranny for the next.

I am wondering, Sayit, where Georgie Boy gets radio programs that have told him what he just posted. Would our own radio stations, even the ones reporting on the news of the world, talk about the percentage of people owning the wealth in Israel. Maybe Georgie Boy should contact Carlos Slim in Mexico, reportedly the world's richest man, and ask him what percentage of Mexicans own the wealth in Mexico. Meanwhile, Georgie Boy doesn't seem to realize that most of the land in the U.S. is owned by the government and is administered by the Bureau of Land Management just as the majority of the land in Israel is administered by the Jewish National Fund. Georgie Boy actually sounds like some disgrunted, bitter Palestinian man who settled in the U.S. (perhaps for the benefits he would get).

"Pacifica Radio is a network of five independently operated, non-commercial, listener-supported radio stations known for its progressive/liberal[1][2] political orientation. Launched in 1949 with service in Berkeley, California, it claims to be the world's oldest listener-funded radio network.[3]

"It is also a program service supplying over 100 affiliated stations with various programs, primarily news and public affairs.[citation needed] The first public radio network in the United States, it is operated by the Pacifica Foundation, a non-profit corporation with national headquarters adjoining station KPFA in Berkeley. Programs such as Democracy Now! and Free Speech Radio News are some of its most popular productions.[citation needed]

"The Pacifica Radio Archives, housed at station KPFK in Los Angeles, is the nation's oldest public radio archive,[citation needed] documenting more than five decades of grassroots political, cultural, and performing arts history. The archive includes original recordings of interviews with John Coltrane, James Baldwin, Lorraine Hansberry, and Langston Hughes, among many others."

Pacifica Radio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The content you mentioned came from KPFK's Sunday morning show called "Middle East in Focus."

All shows stream live (sometimes) maybe you should listen in next Sunday?
Invite Rush for a debate??

Leave it to Georgie Boy to find a radio station started in Berkeley, CA. It looks like Georgie Boy just loves those Leftists whose views coincide with his own.

 

[georgephillip]

"Pacifica was founded in 1946 by pacifists E. John Lewis and Lewis Hill. During World War II, Hill, as well as Lewis, filed for conscientious objector status. After the war, Lewis, Hill and a small group of former conscientious objectors created the Pacifica Foundation. KPFA in Berkeley commenced broadcast activities in 1949."

Pacifists who opposed war for corporate gain formed Pacifica independently of all corporate advertising.
No commercials, Hossie?
How long would that rich draft dodger Rush last if he had to depend on listener contributions?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifica_Radio#Early_history

 

[Hossfly]

"Pacifica was founded in 1946 by pacifists E. John Lewis and Lewis Hill. During World War II, Hill, as well as Lewis, filed for conscientious objector status. After the war, Lewis, Hill and a small group of former conscientious objectors created the Pacifica Foundation. KPFA in Berkeley commenced broadcast activities in 1949."

Pacifists who opposed war for corporate gain formed Pacifica independently of all corporate advertising.
No commercials, Hossie?
How long would that rich draft dodger Rush last if he had to depend on listener contributions?

Pacifica Radio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Georgie, it seems as thouh you spend your life rooting for losers and deadbeats. Pitiful.

 

[georgephillip]

Hossie...why do conservatives waste their lives by serving the rich?
Are you afraid of equality?

 

[Hossfly]

"Pacifica was founded in 1946 by pacifists E. John Lewis and Lewis Hill. During World War II, Hill, as well as Lewis, filed for conscientious objector status. After the war, Lewis, Hill and a small group of former conscientious objectors created the Pacifica Foundation. KPFA in Berkeley commenced broadcast activities in 1949."

Pacifists who opposed war for corporate gain formed Pacifica independently of all corporate advertising.
No commercials, Hossie?
How long would that rich draft dodger Rush last if he had to depend on listener contributions?

Pacifica Radio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why, Georgie Boy, we know what goes on in Berkeley and elsewhere in the Bay area, pictures and all to show how they hate the Jews. So it is not surprising that you would avidly listen to a station which started in Berkeley. I am wondering, though, since in your article about this station, several people who are Blacks are mentioned. Perhaps I was wrong about you being a bitter, disgruntled Palestinian man but are actually a Black man who blames all his disappointments in life on the Jews. A Thomas Sowell Georgie Boy could never be.
Now even though it is obvious that Georgie Boy wouldn't have joined up to fight the Nazis if he was old enough in World War II, perhaps he can make a New Year's resolution that he will become a more patriotic American by emulating what this man in his own area is doing. Surely you can spend one day a week away from your computer, Georgie Boy, and drive or take the bus down to the Los Angeles Airport.
Everyday Heroes: USO provides volunteer with a way to serve military, their families - LA Daily News

 

[georgephillip]

"Pacifica was founded in 1946 by pacifists E. John Lewis and Lewis Hill. During World War II, Hill, as well as Lewis, filed for conscientious objector status. After the war, Lewis, Hill and a small group of former conscientious objectors created the Pacifica Foundation. KPFA in Berkeley commenced broadcast activities in 1949."

Pacifists who opposed war for corporate gain formed Pacifica independently of all corporate advertising.
No commercials, Hossie?
How long would that rich draft dodger Rush last if he had to depend on listener contributions?

Pacifica Radio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why, Georgie Boy, we know what goes on in Berkeley and elsewhere in the Bay area, pictures and all to show how they hate the Jews. So it is not surprising that you would avidly listen to a station which started in Berkeley. I am wondering, though, since in your article about this station, several people who are Blacks are mentioned. Perhaps I was wrong about you being a bitter, disgruntled Palestinian man but are actually a Black man who blames all his disappointments in life on the Jews. A Thomas Sowell Georgie Boy could never be.
Now even though it is obvious that Georgie Boy wouldn't have joined up to fight the Nazis if he was old enough in World War II, perhaps he can make a New Year's resolution that he will become a more patriotic American by emulating what this man in his own area is doing. Surely you can spend one day a week away from your computer, Georgie Boy, and drive or take the bus down to the Los Angeles Airport.
Everyday Heroes: USO provides volunteer with a way to serve military, their families - LA Daily News

"Kunze, who works as a manufacturing analyst for Northrop Grumman Corp. in El Segundo, volunteers at the USO at LAX from 2:30-6:30 p.m. every Tuesday.

"His involvement with the USO started through a Northrop partnership with the group.

"'(Northrop) gave four people a chance to see how the operations are like for one Tuesday and I volunteered to do it because you've seen the Bob Hope (USO) specials and, being a patriotic American, I wanted to learn more,' Kunze said."

One can only wonder how many Marines have died for Northrup's market share?

FYI...I spend 6-9 hours every week volunteering at a local ADHC (Adult Day Health Care) center.
You?

Everyday Heroes: USO provides volunteer with a way to serve military, their families - LA Daily News

 

[Hossfly]

"Pacifica was founded in 1946 by pacifists E. John Lewis and Lewis Hill. During World War II, Hill, as well as Lewis, filed for conscientious objector status. After the war, Lewis, Hill and a small group of former conscientious objectors created the Pacifica Foundation. KPFA in Berkeley commenced broadcast activities in 1949."

Pacifists who opposed war for corporate gain formed Pacifica independently of all corporate advertising.
No commercials, Hossie?
How long would that rich draft dodger Rush last if he had to depend on listener contributions?

Pacifica Radio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why, Georgie Boy, we know what goes on in Berkeley and elsewhere in the Bay area, pictures and all to show how they hate the Jews. So it is not surprising that you would avidly listen to a station which started in Berkeley. I am wondering, though, since in your article about this station, several people who are Blacks are mentioned. Perhaps I was wrong about you being a bitter, disgruntled Palestinian man but are actually a Black man who blames all his disappointments in life on the Jews. A Thomas Sowell Georgie Boy could never be.
Now even though it is obvious that Georgie Boy wouldn't have joined up to fight the Nazis if he was old enough in World War II, perhaps he can make a New Year's resolution that he will become a more patriotic American by emulating what this man in his own area is doing. Surely you can spend one day a week away from your computer, Georgie Boy, and drive or take the bus down to the Los Angeles Airport.
Everyday Heroes: USO provides volunteer with a way to serve military, their families - LA Daily News

"Kunze, who works as a manufacturing analyst for Northrop Grumman Corp. in El Segundo, volunteers at the USO at LAX from 2:30-6:30 p.m. every Tuesday.

"His involvement with the USO started through a Northrop partnership with the group.

"'(Northrop) gave four people a chance to see how the operations are like for one Tuesday and I volunteered to do it because you've seen the Bob Hope (USO) specials and, being a patriotic American, I wanted to learn more,' Kunze said."

One can only wonder how many Marines have died for Northrup's market share?

FYI...I spend 6-9 hours every week volunteering at a local ADHC (Adult Day Health Care) center.
You?

Everyday Heroes: USO provides volunteer with a way to serve military, their families - LA Daily News

You're free to check my biography on my information page , George.

 

[georgephillip]

"Kunze traces his respect for American troops at least in part to his father's service as an Army helicopter gunner in Vietnam and Korea.

"'Vietnam wasn't a very popular war, and I'd hate to think they were not welcomed back as heroes to this country, which they are," he said.'"

They weren't.

Those human beings Kunze's father gunned down in Vietnam were less threat to his country than the Taliban or Saddam was. Physical courage becomes a negative when it's used for Evil purpo$e$.

Everyday Heroes: USO provides volunteer with a way to serve military, their families - LA Daily News

 

[member]

GEORGEPHILLIP:

“Have a nice day... without the blood.”

– is this another 3’s-company “misunderstanding”​

I’m sorry, I went overboard. That ‘disturbing’ “have a nice day sign” – that wasn’t directed at you or anyone (well indirectly, it was meant as a symbol of how I feel I guess). I was comparing places -- like a tourist (Israel/west bank). You asked: “what kind of state is israel?” Should I want to book a vacation there in the west bank/Gaza strip/ramallah refugee camp -- that was my [sick] interpretation of what (I THINK) is the inviting, ‘feel’ of the WB/GS, etc.

As far as I’m concerned, now matter how small or big “the land is” where “the women” (most) are forced to walk around looking like this:

. . . .It’s a collective insane-asylum. Millions of patients

walking around and in ‘charge’ of ‘stuff (the patients are the gov’t, they oversee the nuclear weapons factory, they’re the ‘armies’ – ETC)….

The whole joints’ jumpin’ with ‘patients’ - (in the west bank, the ramallah refugee camp, the Gaza strip, michigan)…

 

[georgephillip]

Muslim fundamentalists and the rich Muslim elites they support are among the most racist, misogynistic human beings on the planet. My problem lies with rich US elites who prop up Arab dictators almost as loyally as rich Jews and their fundamentalist storm trooper in Judea and Samaria.

 

[P F Tinmore]

GEORGEPHILLIP:

“Have a nice day... without the blood.”

– is this another 3’s-company “misunderstanding”​

I’m sorry, I went overboard. That ‘disturbing’ “have a nice day sign” – that wasn’t directed at you or anyone (well indirectly, it was meant as a symbol of how I feel I guess). I was comparing places -- like a tourist (Israel/west bank). You asked: “what kind of state is israel?” Should I want to book a vacation there in the west bank/Gaza strip/ramallah refugee camp -- that was my [sick] interpretation of what (I THINK) is the inviting, ‘feel’ of the WB/GS, etc.

As far as I’m concerned, now matter how small or big “the land is” where “the women” (most) are forced to walk around looking like this:

. . . .It’s a collective insane-asylum. Millions of patients

walking around and in ‘charge’ of ‘stuff (the patients are the gov’t, they oversee the nuclear weapons factory, they’re the ‘armies’ – ETC)….

The whole joints’ jumpin’ with ‘patients’ - (in the west bank, the ramallah refugee camp, the Gaza strip, michigan)…

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZgKLZE8hk]12 Sleepless Gaza Jerusalem.mpg - YouTube[/ame]