Zone1 What is race realism?

[Lisa558]

I find it ironic that our schools adhere to a meritocracy when it comes to their sports programs, but not their academic. Considering that academics provide the very basis for their existence and sports do not, this seems especially arch.

It’s not just the schools - it’s in the professional arena as well. Corporations are under pressure to meet black quotas, and thus we have multiple instances where a less-qualified black gets a job or promotion over a better-qualified white because…..drum roll….DIVERSITY!….yet they still go with the best qualified for professional sports teams, and if the best are disproportionately black, that’s fine.

 

[Riff Raff]

Those petitioning the Supreme Court about affirmative action have demonstrated that blacks are admitted to Harvard whose qualifications are inferior to Orientals who are rejected.

Hell, a great example of how blacks are given privileges and those who are not black are discriminated against is how this forum is moderated.

It is obvious. Very biased.

 

[Riff Raff]

Same here. But they do seem to be more on the quiet and serious side, which Harvard apparently doesn’t like. In fact, that was one of the traits they saw as a negative on the personality test: that Asians were too serious.

Can you BELIEVE this nonsense? I wish I could get a seat when they argue the SCOTUS case.

Across the country, there's a trend that colleges are stipulating that accepted students are activists for or at least support 'social justice' (Left-wing 'woke' politics) and 'antiracism' (anti-white racism). It's also written preference for those who are deemed qualified for numerous student and teaching positions within the school.

 

[Lisa558]

Across the country, there's a trend that colleges are stipulating that accepted students are activists for or at least support 'social justice' (Left-wing 'woke' politics) and 'antiracism' (anti-white racism). It's also written preference for those who are deemed qualified for numerous student and teaching positions within the school.

Yes, these colleges are increasingly becoming indoctrination centers for the Marxist left.

 

[Friends]

I find it ironic that our schools adhere to a meritocracy when it comes to their sports programs, but not their academic. Considering that academics provide the very basis for their existence and sports do not, this seems especially arch.

Football and basketball are big money makers. Winning seasons generate more donations from alumnae. Many people who never went to college are passionately loyal to college teams of nearby universities. Many collegiate football and basketball players read and do math at eighth grade levels or below. Sports fans do not seem to care.

 

[Friends]

Across the country, there's a trend that colleges are stipulating that accepted students are activists for or at least support 'social justice' (Left-wing 'woke' politics) and 'antiracism' (anti-white racism). It's also written preference for those who are deemed qualified for numerous student and teaching positions within the school.

This is a growing scandal. They want diversity of race, but not of opinion.

 

[Friends]

Yes, these colleges are increasingly becoming indoctrination centers for the Marxist left.

Let's just say "the left." Unless one calls himself a Marxist he is not one.

 

[Friends]

It’s not just the schools - it’s in the professional arena as well. Corporations are under pressure to meet black quotas, and thus we have multiple instances where a less-qualified black gets a job or promotion over a better-qualified white because…..drum roll….DIVERSITY!….yet they still go with the best qualified for professional sports teams, and if the best are disproportionately black, that’s fine.

I doubt many corporations really want to hire unqualified blacks. Doing so arouses resentment among employees who deserve their jobs. If, as I certainly hope, the Supreme Court rules against affirmative action, I expect a lot of that dead wood will be fired. I want that to happen.

 

[Riff Raff]

Let's just say "the left." Unless one calls himself a Marxist he is not one.

A reasonable assertion although Leftusts are characteristically anti-capitalism and often advocate for Marxism, with some self-describing themselves as Marxists, socialists or communists.

 

[Failzero]

What for? A starting cornerback isn't the cause of racial inequality.

I thought this thread was about “Racial Realism” or some such notion

 

[Friends]

A reasonable assertion although Leftusts are characteristically anti-capitalism and often advocate for Marxism, with some self-describing themselves as Marxists, socialists or communists.

I read a political thinker for insight, rather than doctrine. I believe that Karl Marx had two valid insights, and that he was mistaken about everything else he said. He never advocated the totalitarian methods used by Communist dictatorships during the twentieth century. He did inspire them, so he is not completely innocent. During the twentieth century millions of people were not killed in the the name of John Stuart Mill.

I read some of Marx in college. After college I participated in a fascinating seminar on Das Kapital given by the American Communist Party. Interestingly enough, I already owned most of the books on the reading list, including several that were printed in Moscow by Progress Publishers. I have read The Communist Manifesto many times. The Communist Manifesto can be read in one or two sittings. It tells you everything you need to know about Marxism. Everything else Marx wrote was an elaboration on it.

I also believe that Edmund Burke had valuable insights, while being mistaken about some of his other assertions.

 

[Blues Man]

Race realism is the belief that race is an important biological classification of humans and that the races differ in average characteristics necessary for the creation and maintenance of successful societies and civilizations. These are intelligence, obedience to the law, and monogamy. That the average Oriental, the average white person, and the average Negro differ in these characteristics is apparent, and easy to document.

Keep in mind that I am writing in terms of averages and tendencies, rather than absolute characteristics. Intelligent, monogamous, and law abiding people can be found in each race, along with stupid, promiscuous criminals.

Race realism explains racial differences in average ability and behavior in terms of different population pressures lasting for thousands of years.

Cold climates select for intelligence and monogamy. One must have the intelligence to build warm clothing and housing, and to store food for the winter months. Women need the help of a man to raise their children. He is unlikely to do so unless they are his children too.

Civilizations select for intelligence, obedience to the law, and to a somewhat lesser extent, for monogamy. Intelligent men tend to be more prosperous than unintelligent men. Until very recently, they had more children who lived to adulthood.

During most of history criminals in civilized countries were killed at the scene of the crime, they died in custody, or they were executed. There was no effort at rehabilitation. It is rarely effective. The few children some criminals had rarely lived to adulthood.

Civilization selects somewhat less strongly for monogamy, because in a civilization some men become rich enough to support several wives. Nevertheless, single mothers have until recently been unable to raise children.

I define a civilization as a city based culture, where the government has the effective monopoly on the legitimate use of violence.

In my brief essay I have explained Professor J. Philipp’s larger essay, “Race Evolution, and Behavior,” using my own words.

Race, Evolution, and Behavior:

However, Professr Rushton ignored the role civilization has had in selecting genetically for civilized behavior and performance. This is explained by The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Accelerated Human Evolution, by Professors Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending.

Race realism explains the persistence of black social pathology. Early supporters for the civil rights movement predicted that when Negroes were given equal rights most of them would begin to behave and perform as well as most whites. Instead black rates of crime and illegitimacy rose, while average black academic performance has improved little, despite increases of money spent to improve black education.

The reality of race is that it has absolutely no basis in biology

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The reality of race is that it has absolutely no basis in biology

I think we all be gar better off if we simply didn't see it, myself.

 

[Riff Raff]

The reality of race is that it has absolutely no basis in biology

Well, that is not true. There are a number of biological characteristics categorized races are based on, but while some are valid, some are not as clearly defined when closely examined.

However Democrats insist on defining literally everything by race. They are dependent on manufactured racial animosity to gain political power.

 

[Blues Man]

Well, that is not true. There are a number of biological characteristics categorized races are based on, but they are not as clearly defined when closely examined and some are little more than generalizations.

However Democrats insist on defining literally everything by race. They are dependent on manufactured racial animosity to gain political power.

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[Riff Raff]

National Geographic

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The opinion of one Left-leaning writer formerly for the New York Times and now the New Yorker is not determinant.

 

[Friends]

The reality of race is that it has absolutely no basis in biology

"The Inequality Taboo," by Charles Murray, Commentary, September 2005

The Harvard geneticist Richard Lewontin originated the idea of race as a social construct in 1972, arguing that the genetic differences across races were so trivial that no scientist working exclusively with genetic data would sort people into blacks, whites, or Asians. In his words, "racial classification is now seen to be of virtually no genetic or taxonomic significance."

Lewontin's position, which quickly became a tenet of political correctness, carried with it a potential means of being falsified. If he was correct, then a statistical analysis of genetic markers would not produce clusters corresponding to common racial labels. In the last few years, that test has become feasible, and now we know that Lewontin was wrong.

Several analyses have confirmed the genetic reality of group identities going under the label of race or ethnicity. In the most recent, published this year, all but five of the 3,636 subjects fell into the cluster of genetic markers corresponding to their self identified ethnic group. When a statistical procedure, blind to physical characteristics and working exclusively with genetic information, classifies 99.9 percent of the individuals in a large sample in the same way they classify themselves, it is hard to argue that race is imaginary.

http://www.iapsych.com/wj3ewok/LinkedDocuments/Murray2005.pdf

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The nice thing about this experiment is that it can be replicated. All one needs to do is to get a large number of Orientals, whites, and Negroes, identify their races by photographs, and then do DNA analysis on tissue samples by those who have not seen the photos.

Putting this in my own words, I will say that a person's race or race mixture can usually be determined by appearance, and always by DNA analysis.

Once we agree that there is an objective, and easy to understand way to determine race, it makes sense to see how the races differ in average intelligence, and rates of crime and illegitimacy. That is what race realism is all about.

 

[Friends]

Well, that is not true. There are a number of biological characteristics categorized races are based on, but while some are valid, some are not as clearly defined when closely examined.

However Democrats insist on defining literally everything by race. They are dependent on manufactured racial animosity to gain political power.

If race does not exist, how can we determine which race needs lower standards in order to achieve diversity, inclusion, equity, and belonging? All we need to do is to rely exclusively on objective criteria of excellence, and ignore appearance.

This of course is not what the race hustlers advocate.

 

[Coyote]

It's no secret that some admissions are received because of legacy, donor, and athletic considerations. But I've never seen information providing actual numbers.

And I've never heard about Indians, Hispanics, etc., given special treatment in admissions.

Can you provide some links to support your claim that "Yet far more admissions slots" are set aside for those people.
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Information can easily be found which shows the extreme preferences given to blacks. Some were covered earlier in this thread.

Here is something to start with: post 157

 

[Coyote]

Absolutely. The legacy admits are all about money. The lower standards for blacks is just pure racism.

Legacy has lower standards as well. So?