What if a Jewish baker refused to create a Hitler cake?

[hadit]

Putting Hitler on the cake falls under free speech. Anyone can refuse. Now if a KKK member walks in and wants a regular cake, you cannot refuse. It's really that simple.

What if the local KKK chapter wants you to cater an event in a clearing in the woods, at night?

Well unless you're catering company normally caters events in clearings in the woods at night you shouldn't have a problem.

According to the law, can such a thing happen? I think so. If a Christian business owner is forced to do something to celebrate a lifestyle he/she opposes, why could not a Black Southern Baptist be forced to cater a KKK gathering?

 

[g5000]

It's a legitimate question. Do you think a Black Southern Baptist run caterer can be force to cater a KKK event?

Your original analogy had the black caterer going out into the woods in the middle of the night to a cross burning. In that scenario, the black has legitimate concern for his personal safety, and would be entirely within his rights to refuse.

However, if you are talking about a KKK inbred family reunion on a Saturday afternoon, then the black caterer must provide his services. But those services do not extend beyond what he offers everyone else. So there will be no creating a cake with a lynched negro on it. Just the usual fare.

 

[koshergrl]

 

[Swagger]

Gotta love watching kdrool using Jews as tools to further her agenda, no matter how stupid her agenda.

Why not? Jews use Christians as their tools to further their [Jews'] interests all the time.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Putting Hitler on the cake falls under free speech. Anyone can refuse. Now if a KKK member walks in and wants a regular cake, you cannot refuse. It's really that simple.

What if the local KKK chapter wants you to cater an event in a clearing in the woods, at night?

Well unless you're catering company normally caters events in clearings in the woods at night you shouldn't have a problem.

According to the law, can such a thing happen? I think so. If a Christian business owner is forced to do something to celebrate a lifestyle he/she opposes, why could not a Black Southern Baptist be forced to cater a KKK gathering?

Depends. Are bigots a protected class in that local jurisdiction?

 

[Ravi]

No surprise to anyone that you own that cake.

 

[hadit]

It's a legitimate question. Do you think a Black Southern Baptist run caterer can be force to cater a KKK event?

Your original analogy had the black caterer going out into the woods in the middle of the night to a cross burning. In that scenario, the black has legitimate concern for his personal safety, and would be entirely within his rights to refuse.

However, if you are talking about a KKK inbred family reunion on a Saturday afternoon, then the black caterer must provide his services. But those services do not extend beyond what he offers everyone else. So there will be no creating a cake with a lynched negro on it. Just the usual fare.

Not if you advertise that you will create a custom cake with whatever wording or images you want on it.

 

[koshergrl]

No surprise to anyone that you own that cake.

That's a snap chat that was sent to me by someone from a party at your house, ravler.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What if the Westboro Baptist Church wanted to march in the San Francisco Gay Pride Day Parade?

That would depend on whether the parade were considered "commerce," which is likely not the case.

Much of the problem seems you and most others on the right don't understand the issue or the law.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Putting Hitler on the cake falls under free speech. Anyone can refuse. Now if a KKK member walks in and wants a regular cake, you cannot refuse. It's really that simple.

What if the local KKK chapter wants you to cater an event in a clearing in the woods, at night?

Well unless you're catering company normally caters events in clearings in the woods at night you shouldn't have a problem.

According to the law, can such a thing happen? I think so. If a Christian business owner is forced to do something to celebrate a lifestyle he/she opposes, why could not a Black Southern Baptist be forced to cater a KKK gathering?

If a member of the KKK walks in to your store and says "I want a cake with a brown person hanging from a tree on it for my KKK party" you can say no. Because that falls under free speech. If he then says "okay then can I just get a regular cake for my party," then you have to bake him a cake.

 

[Clementine]

I can think of many hundreds of millions of people who wouldn't want to put Hitler's face on a cake, not just Jews, but if that's what you do for a living, make the cake. Problem solved.

So, Muslims should make cakes that mock their god? Gays should make cakes with anti-gay messages on them? Everyone gives up their beliefs and self-respect when they open a business.

 

[g5000]

You are off by 7 years.

 

[hadit]

Putting Hitler on the cake falls under free speech. Anyone can refuse. Now if a KKK member walks in and wants a regular cake, you cannot refuse. It's really that simple.

What if the local KKK chapter wants you to cater an event in a clearing in the woods, at night?

Well unless you're catering company normally caters events in clearings in the woods at night you shouldn't have a problem.

According to the law, can such a thing happen? I think so. If a Christian business owner is forced to do something to celebrate a lifestyle he/she opposes, why could not a Black Southern Baptist be forced to cater a KKK gathering?

If a member of the KKK walks in to your store and says "I want a cake with a brown person hanging from a tree on it for my KKK party" you can say no. Because that falls under free speech. If he then says "okay then can I just get a regular cake for my party," then you have to bake him a cake.

So a gay couple that requests a wedding cake that has two men on top of it can be denied service, but if they just request a cake off the shelf, they cannot? Somehow, I don't think that's going to fly.

 

[koshergrl]

It's a legitimate question. Do you think a Black Southern Baptist run caterer can be force to cater a KKK event?

Your original analogy had the black caterer going out into the woods in the middle of the night to a cross burning. In that scenario, the black has legitimate concern for his personal safety, and would be entirely within his rights to refuse.

However, if you are talking about a KKK inbred family reunion on a Saturday afternoon, then the black caterer must provide his services. But those services do not extend beyond what he offers everyone else. So there will be no creating a cake with a lynched negro on it. Just the usual fare.

Not if you advertise that you will create a custom cake with whatever wording or images you want on it.

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   What if a Jewish baker refused to create a Hitler cake?

Is he refusing to bake it for anyone - or just Nazis?

Just Nazis.

So he makes Nazi cakes for everybody else, eh?

Yup.

But here's the scenario that best parallels the one in question....

What if a Nazi demanded a Jewish baker cater a party celebrating the Holocaust?

 

[Siete]

From 08-09 .. their kid was named AHC

The [Campbell] family made headlines when a ShopRite supermarket in Greenwich, near the family’s home in Holland Township in west-central New Jersey, refused to decorate a birthday cake with their son’s name.

A Wal-Mart in Pennsylvania wound up decorating the cake….


old story redeaux by a RW'r

 

[koshergrl]

You are off by 7 years.

Focus.

 

[koshergrl]

From 08-09 .. their kid was named AHC

The [Campbell] family made headlines when a ShopRite supermarket in Greenwich, near the family’s home in Holland Township in west-central New Jersey, refused to decorate a birthday cake with their son’s name.

A Wal-Mart in Pennsylvania wound up decorating the cake….


old story redeaux by a RW'r

Exciting trivia! Completely irrelevant. Now focus!

 

[g5000]

So, Muslims should make cakes that mock their god? Gays should make cakes with anti-gay messages on them?

If a bakery does not offer derogatory cakes to the general public, then no, and no.

 

[koshergrl]

I can think of many hundreds of millions of people who wouldn't want to put Hitler's face on a cake, not just Jews, but if that's what you do for a living, make the cake. Problem solved.

So, Muslims should make cakes that mock their god? Gays should make cakes with anti-gay messages on them? Everyone gives up their beliefs and self-respect when they open a business.

Muslims must be forced to cater events where the theme is to ridicule Mohommed.

 

[g5000]

You are off by 7 years.

Focus.

IRONY!