We now know why trump and Epstein fell out

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“He hired help. And I said ‘Don’t ever do that again.’ He stole people that worked for me. I said, ‘Don’t never do that again.’ He did it again. And I threw him out of the place, persona non grata. I threw him out, and that was it,” Trump said.

The White House had previously claimed, in a statement, that “The fact is that the president kicked him out of his club for being a creep.”

"What year is this?!" she asked. "What are we talking about? Trump is talking in that sound you just listened to about a victim named Virginia Giuffre. She's one of Jeffrey Epstein's better-known victims. We know a lot about her as a victim. She died by suicide this April. In the midst of all this, Trump is trying to refocus attention on Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice and long-time girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, whose attorney has made clear that she would like a pardon or commutation. For what? It's not clear."

That's right. trump is upset because Jeffery stole some of his employees, one of which he sexually abused and who committed suicide a few months ago. I fully expect Donald to pardon Maxwell. He will probably wait until his final days in office. But I do expect it to happen. The outrage will be monumental, but he won't care. He will be gone on his big beautiful jet.



As Wallace stated, today Maxwell's lawyer said she would only testify to Congress under immunity.

Meanwhile, conservative media is working to make Maxwell appear as a victim of Epstein, despite allegations that Maxwell recruited the girls for Epstein and, in some cases, sexually abused them before Epstein.
 

“He hired help. And I said ‘Don’t ever do that again.’ He stole people that worked for me. I said, ‘Don’t never do that again.’ He did it again. And I threw him out of the place, persona non grata. I threw him out, and that was it,” Trump said.

The White House had previously claimed, in a statement, that “The fact is that the president kicked him out of his club for being a creep.”

"What year is this?!" she asked. "What are we talking about? Trump is talking in that sound you just listened to about a victim named Virginia Giuffre. She's one of Jeffrey Epstein's better-known victims. We know a lot about her as a victim. She died by suicide this April. In the midst of all this, Trump is trying to refocus attention on Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice and long-time girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, whose attorney has made clear that she would like a pardon or commutation. For what? It's not clear."

That's right. trump is upset because Jeffery stole some of his employees, one of which he sexually abused and who committed suicide a few months ago. I fully expect Donald to pardon Maxwell. He will probably wait until his final days in office. But I do expect it to happen. The outrage will be monumental, but he won't care. He will be gone on his big beautiful jet.



As Wallace stated, today Maxwell's lawyer said she would only testify to Congress under immunity.

Meanwhile, conservative media is working to make Maxwell appear as a victim of Epstein, despite allegations that Maxwell recruited the girls for Epstein and, in some cases, sexually abused them before Epstein.
Actually, I saw a video where the "reporter" was speaking on the telephone with Epstein's brother who claimed that Epstein stopped hanging out with Trump when we "found out he is a crook".
"....multiple sources confirm that Mark Epstein—Jeffrey’s brother—has described his brother saying he “stopped hanging out with Donald Trump when he realized Trump was a crook” YouTube+12TheWrap+12YouTube+12."
This was the same news clip in which Epstein's brother said that Jeffrey asked Trump in his presence why he sleeps with so many married women, to which his reply was "because it's so wrong". I can't locate that video though

What Mark Epstein​

  • In a CNN interview with Erin Burnett, Mark Epstein shared that during a 1999 flight the three of them—Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, and Mark himself—were on Epstein’s plane when Trump made a crude joke about sleeping with many married women People.com+7TIME+7The Guardian+7Hindustan Times+2The Daily Beast+2India Today+2.
  • In that same CNN segment, Mark recounted Jeffrey telling him directly: “Jeffrey told me he asked Donald, ‘How come you sleep with so many married women?’” and that Trump’s reply was, “Because it’s so wrong.” India Today+1OK! Magazine+1.
These accounts strongly align with your description of the reported exchange.
 

“He hired help. And I said ‘Don’t ever do that again.’ He stole people that worked for me. I said, ‘Don’t never do that again.’ He did it again. And I threw him out of the place, persona non grata. I threw him out, and that was it,” Trump said.

The White House had previously claimed, in a statement, that “The fact is that the president kicked him out of his club for being a creep.”

"What year is this?!" she asked. "What are we talking about? Trump is talking in that sound you just listened to about a victim named Virginia Giuffre. She's one of Jeffrey Epstein's better-known victims. We know a lot about her as a victim. She died by suicide this April. In the midst of all this, Trump is trying to refocus attention on Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice and long-time girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, whose attorney has made clear that she would like a pardon or commutation. For what? It's not clear."

That's right. trump is upset because Jeffery stole some of his employees, one of which he sexually abused and who committed suicide a few months ago. I fully expect Donald to pardon Maxwell. He will probably wait until his final days in office. But I do expect it to happen. The outrage will be monumental, but he won't care. He will be gone on his big beautiful jet.



As Wallace stated, today Maxwell's lawyer said she would only testify to Congress under immunity.

Meanwhile, conservative media is working to make Maxwell appear as a victim of Epstein, despite allegations that Maxwell recruited the girls for Epstein and, in some cases, sexually abused them before Epstein.
What’s weird is she never claimed Trump abused her

Once again we have sick twisted Dems using a real victim, and lying about her

Sad
 
Was she a victim or a gold digger? I say gold digger; the MET in London checked out her claims re randy Andy and found nothing there.

Greg
Yes she was a victim
 
they are not unsubstantiated

they are claimed they happened
The MET in the UK checked out the claims. Vacuous.

The Metropolitan Police Service (MET) concluded its review of allegations against Prince Andrew related to Virginia Giuffre and decided to take no further action. This decision followed a review of documents released in a US civil action, including one related to the lawsuit Giuffre filed against Prince Andrew. The MET stated that the review concluded and that no further action would be taken.

Prince Andrew had been accused of sexual assault by Giuffre, who alleged that the abuse occurred when she was underage. Giuffre's lawsuit also included allegations of abuse at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion in Manhattan and on his private island in the US Virgin Islands. Prince Andrew has consistently denied all allegations.

While the MET has dropped its investigation, US authorities may still pursue the case, and Prince Andrew could still face extradition if he is charged with a crime in the US.

AI

Greg
 

“He hired help. And I said ‘Don’t ever do that again.’ He stole people that worked for me. I said, ‘Don’t never do that again.’ He did it again. And I threw him out of the place, persona non grata. I threw him out, and that was it,” Trump said.

The White House had previously claimed, in a statement, that “The fact is that the president kicked him out of his club for being a creep.”

"What year is this?!" she asked. "What are we talking about? Trump is talking in that sound you just listened to about a victim named Virginia Giuffre. She's one of Jeffrey Epstein's better-known victims. We know a lot about her as a victim. She died by suicide this April. In the midst of all this, Trump is trying to refocus attention on Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice and long-time girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, whose attorney has made clear that she would like a pardon or commutation. For what? It's not clear."

That's right. trump is upset because Jeffery stole some of his employees, one of which he sexually abused and who committed suicide a few months ago. I fully expect Donald to pardon Maxwell. He will probably wait until his final days in office. But I do expect it to happen. The outrage will be monumental, but he won't care. He will be gone on his big beautiful jet.



As Wallace stated, today Maxwell's lawyer said she would only testify to Congress under immunity.

Meanwhile, conservative media is working to make Maxwell appear as a victim of Epstein, despite allegations that Maxwell recruited the girls for Epstein and, in some cases, sexually abused them before Epstein.
When Trump refers to Epstein stealing people that worked for him...he's obviously talking about young girls that he discovered Epstein was recruiting out of Mar A Lago for his sex business. When he did discover that, Trump threw Epstein out of Mar A Lago. Why you think the above means something is beyond me.
I don't see conservative media doing anything to defend Maxwell, nor do I think Trump will pardon her. He obviously was fond of her and feels badly about where her choices have led her to but I don't think he sees the sentence she was given as something that's unfair and deserving of a pardon.
 
Yes she was a victim
I'm not convinced quite frankly. Eps sent her to Thailand to learn to be a REAL Masseuse; why if she's already fulfilling the role they wanted? She even accused her husband of foul stuff and the Court granted HIM custody of the kids. She sounds like a liar to me.

Greg
 
The MET in the UK checked out the claims. Vacuous.

The Metropolitan Police Service (MET) concluded its review of allegations against Prince Andrew related to Virginia Giuffre and decided to take no further action. This decision followed a review of documents released in a US civil action, including one related to the lawsuit Giuffre filed against Prince Andrew. The MET stated that the review concluded and that no further action would be taken.

Prince Andrew had been accused of sexual assault by Giuffre, who alleged that the abuse occurred when she was underage. Giuffre's lawsuit also included allegations of abuse at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion in Manhattan and on his private island in the US Virgin Islands. Prince Andrew has consistently denied all allegations.

While the MET has dropped its investigation, US authorities may still pursue the case, and Prince Andrew could still face extradition if he is charged with a crime in the US.

AI

Greg
I believe Prince Andrew settled out of court with Giuffre. Not very consistent with denying all allegations...the amount paid was reported to be between 16 and 20 million dollars!
 
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Hmmmm, why hasn’t he released the files yet?
 
You know what she sounds like to me? Someone who was sexually trafficked while they were still a teenager and had serious mental health issues with that for the rest of her life. You know who's sounds like a liar (and not a very good one!)? That would be Prince Andrew.
I'm not convinced quite frankly. Eps sent her to Thailand to learn to be a REAL Masseuse; why if she's already fulfilling the role they wanted? She even accused her husband of foul stuff and the Court granted HIM custody of the kids. She sounds like a liar to me.

Greg
 
When Trump refers to Epstein stealing people that worked for him...he's obviously talking about young girls that he discovered Epstein was recruiting out of Mar A Lago for his sex business. When he did discover that, Trump threw Epstein out of Mar A Lago. Why you think the above means something is beyond me.
I don't see conservative media doing anything to defend Maxwell, nor do I think Trump will pardon her. He obviously was fond of her and feels badly about where her choices have led her to but I don't think he sees the sentence she was given as something that's unfair and deserving of a pardon.
I just saw Trump on the news attempting to answer the reporter's question & explain "the situation" which is what is known in the industry as "poaching".

They can't be "stolen", they weren't slaves and slavery is currently illegal in this country.
 
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That's right. trump is upset because Jeffery stole some of his employees, one of which he sexually abused and who committed suicide a few months ago.
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Obvious projection.

Jeffrey Epstein (D) was a Democrat and several Democrats in government were implicated by Virginia Roberts-Giuffre. She did not implicate Trump. She thanked Trump because he helped her sue Epstein.

Zero Republican officials were implicated by the victims. Several Democrat officials in very powerful positions were implicated by the victims, including...

  • Bill Richardson (D-NM): Former Secretary of Energy and Governor of New Mexico.
  • Larry Summers (D): Former Secretary of the Treasury, former director of the National Economic Council and former President of Harvard University.
  • George Mitchell (D-ME): Former Senate Majority Leader.
Notice that none of them are Republicans.

 
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