Way past the time to put a stop to this

[eagle7-31]

Trump Administration Advances Crackdown on China-Tied Land Purchases | National Review

Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins described American farming as ‘under threat from criminals, from political adversaries, and from hostile regimes.’

www.nationalreview.com

the CCP land grab here in the US. This should have NEVER been allowed in the first place. Hopefully Trump and company follow thru.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Trump Administration Advances Crackdown on China-Tied Land Purchases | National Review

Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins described American farming as ‘under threat from criminals, from political adversaries, and from hostile regimes.’

www.nationalreview.com

the CCP land grab here in the US. This should have NEVER been allowed in the first place. Hopefully Trump and company follow thru.

A simple solution to any CCP infiltration, have America demand reciprocal or none at all.

Americans should be allowed to buy condos and land in China if the Chinese can do the same in America. Ditto for ANY country. If not, then Chinese citizens have to forfeit any land they own and be barred from purchasing any.

Ditto for stock exchange access, internet/social media companies etc.

Stop capitulating and start demanding. THAT is the America that forced capitalism and freedom on the world. We need that today more than ever.

 

[drudge X]

A simple solution to any CCP infiltration, have America demand reciprocal or none at all.

Americans should be allowed to buy condos and land in China if the Chinese can do the same in America. Ditto for ANY country. If not, then Chinese citizens have to forfeit any land they own and be barred from purchasing any.

Ditto for stock exchange access, internet/social media companies etc.

Stop capitulating and start demanding. THAT is the America that forced capitalism and freedom on the world. We need that today more than ever.

Not gonna happen. This country sold its soul to China long ago. We can pass all kinds of laws banning Chinese from buying land but as soon as China presents a suitcase full of cash, politicians will find loopholes or the laws are already full of loopholes.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Not gonna happen. This country sold its soul to China long ago. We can pass all kinds of laws banning Chinese from buying land but as soon as China presents a suitcase full of cash, politicians will find loopholes or the laws are already full of loopholes.

Force Congress to pass it into law and have the DOJ add it to their tasks with severe penalties for violations.

The West keeps opening themselves up to Trojan Horses.

 

[Edgetho]

Trump Administration Advances Crackdown on China-Tied Land Purchases | National Review

Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins described American farming as ‘under threat from criminals, from political adversaries, and from hostile regimes.’

www.nationalreview.com

the CCP land grab here in the US. This should have NEVER been allowed in the first place. Hopefully Trump and company follow thru.

I've never understood this.

I remember back when the Japanese bought the Sears Tower and everybody got all uptight and nervous about it, "We're Losing Our Identity!!"

And I'm like, "How you figure that?"

What are they gonna do, ship it back to Japan and steal it from us? All they can do is rent it out, proabably to the same, exact people it was being rented to when they bought it.

If the Chinese buy Billions of Dollars(?) worth of Farm Land in the US.......... So What? They gonna put it in bags and send it by to Wun Hung Lo? They gonna sell it to Iran?

I mean, what are they gonna do that's harmful?

Nothing. If they break the Law, we prosecute them. How tough is that?

Meanwhile, if they spend a Billion Dollars here in this Country, that's a billion dollars infused into our economy.

In the famous words of the Great American, Bugs Bunny, "What's all the hub-bub, Bub?"

 

[j-mac]

I've never understood this.

I remember back when the Japanese bought the Sears Tower and everybody got all uptight and nervous about it, "We're Losing Our Identity!!"

And I'm like, "How you figure that?"

What are they gonna do, ship it back to Japan and steal it from us? All they can do is rent it out, proabably to the same, exact people it was being rented to when they bought it.

If the Chinese buy Billions of Dollars(?) worth of Farm Land in the US.......... So What? They gonna put it in bags and send it by to Wun Hung Lo? They gonna sell it to Iran?

I mean, what are they gonna do that's harmful?

Nothing. If they break the Law, we prosecute them. How tough is that?

Meanwhile, if they spend a Billion Dollars here in this Country, that's a billion dollars infused into our economy.

In the famous words of the Great American, Bugs Bunny, "What's all the hub-bub, Bub?"

I wonder if China lets us buy their land?

 

[Edgetho]

I wonder if China lets us buy their land?

Why would you want to?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

My mother received an unsolicited offer to buy her land. It came from a corporation and a diligent search revealed it was a foreign entity

She politely told them to pound sand

 

[Edgetho]

I've never understood this.

I remember back when the Japanese bought the Sears Tower and everybody got all uptight and nervous about it, "We're Losing Our Identity!!"

And I'm like, "How you figure that?"

What are they gonna do, ship it back to Japan and steal it from us? All they can do is rent it out, proabably to the same, exact people it was being rented to when they bought it.

If the Chinese buy Billions of Dollars(?) worth of Farm Land in the US.......... So What? They gonna put it in bags and send it by to Wun Hung Lo? They gonna sell it to Iran?

I mean, what are they gonna do that's harmful?

Nothing. If they break the Law, we prosecute them. How tough is that?

Meanwhile, if they spend a Billion Dollars here in this Country, that's a billion dollars infused into our economy.

In the famous words of the Great American, Bugs Bunny, "What's all the hub-bub, Bub?"

Turns out, Japan buying the Sears Tower never happened. But there was a lot of talk about it and a lot of opinions of dubious value.

But the Chrysler Building was sold to a group from Abu Dhabi and the world did NOT come to an end.

I don't know who is paying whom to get people excited over this bullshit about the Chinese buying property but it's bullshit. If they're stupid enough to buy land right next to a sensitive Military Installation so they can spy on us, let them. I encourage it.

OBTW Sears? Remember them? At one time the biggest employer in the Free World and the 4th biggest Company on the Planet.

Just another arrogant Chicago Based Corporation. Gone. Forever. They INVENTED the Mail Order business but let Amazon put them out of business. They were one of the very last companies to seriously use the internet for its customers.

Stupid management. Very stupid management. VERY stupid. And yes, I know all about the Hedge Fund Manager and KMart. Still..... Stupid beyond belief management. Very "Inbred". Very "Get Along, Go Along". So inbred that everybody in Company Management thought exactly the same -- Stupidly.

 

[Edgetho]

My mother received an unsolicited offer to buy her land. It came from a corporation and a diligent search revealed it was a foreign entity

She politely told them to pound sand

A lot of Companies are incorporated overseas because our Corporate Tax Policies are beyond stupid. They might be American owned and operated but choose to incorporate overseas.

Especially in Ireland.

I just grabbed the first link I saw --

Six reasons why companies incorporate in Ireland

Why incorporating a company in Ireland is good for businesses seeking a favourable environment for growth and expansion.

www.ocorian.com

 

[SassyIrishLass]

A lot of Companies are incorporated overseas because our Corporate Tax Policies are beyond stupid. They might be American owned and operated but choose to incorporate overseas.

Especially in Ireland.

I just grabbed the first link I saw --

Six reasons why companies incorporate in Ireland

Why incorporating a company in Ireland is good for businesses seeking a favourable environment for growth and expansion.

www.ocorian.com

It was Chinese.

The other thing going on is trying to land grab for solar farms but they've hit a wall around here. People want no part of it

 

[task0778]

I've never understood this.

I remember back when the Japanese bought the Sears Tower and everybody got all uptight and nervous about it, "We're Losing Our Identity!!"

And I'm like, "How you figure that?"

What are they gonna do, ship it back to Japan and steal it from us? All they can do is rent it out, proabably to the same, exact people it was being rented to when they bought it.

If the Chinese buy Billions of Dollars(?) worth of Farm Land in the US.......... So What? They gonna put it in bags and send it by to Wun Hung Lo? They gonna sell it to Iran?

I mean, what are they gonna do that's harmful?

Nothing. If they break the Law, we prosecute them. How tough is that?

Meanwhile, if they spend a Billion Dollars here in this Country, that's a billion dollars infused into our economy.

In the famous words of the Great American, Bugs Bunny, "What's all the hub-bub, Bub?"

Yeah, but here's the thing: when foreign entities buy land and corporations in this country that allows them to accumulate political power and influence in every level of gov't. Some people believe that eventually we will lose control of our own country, not anytime soon but maybe 20-30 years down the road?

 

[drudge X]

Why would you want to?

There are Americans who want to but must go through Mt. Everest load of paperwork. Why? To make money just as China buying properties in the US.

 

[drudge X]

I've never understood this.

I remember back when the Japanese bought the Sears Tower and everybody got all uptight and nervous about it, "We're Losing Our Identity!!"

And I'm like, "How you figure that?"

What are they gonna do, ship it back to Japan and steal it from us? All they can do is rent it out, proabably to the same, exact people it was being rented to when they bought it.

If the Chinese buy Billions of Dollars(?) worth of Farm Land in the US.......... So What? They gonna put it in bags and send it by to Wun Hung Lo? They gonna sell it to Iran?

I mean, what are they gonna do that's harmful?

Nothing. If they break the Law, we prosecute them. How tough is that?

Meanwhile, if they spend a Billion Dollars here in this Country, that's a billion dollars infused into our economy.

In the famous words of the Great American, Bugs Bunny, "What's all the hub-bub, Bub?"

Japan is a close ally of the US. China is an enemy. That's the difference. Besides, Japanese can probably better manage the US companies they purchased than US owners.

 

[Edgetho]

Yeah, but here's the thing: when foreign entities buy land and corporations in this country that allows them to accumulate political power and influence in every level of gov't. Some people believe that eventually we will lose control of our own country, not anytime soon but maybe 20-30 years down the road?

Horse Hockey.

I'll sell you my Truck for $90k (which is considerably more than it's worth) but you can only keep it at my house in my garage. And you can't have the keys and the Title stays in my name. You have to provide Insurance with me named as an Additional Insured to protect me. You can't drive it, only I can. But I'll let you wash it and pay for the maintenance (It's a Cummins so an oil change is $300...... Then there's the fuel filters, they're a treat) But I'll let you sit in it and even take a picture of you behind the wheel and give it to you.

And when I'm in the mood, I will ban you from my property.

That's about what is happening to the Chinese buying property/land in the USA. And I know what you're thinking about my offer to sell you my Truck. Don't blame you, either.

The Chinese can buy our land but they can't take it with them. They can till and plant it if they want to. They have to pay taxes on it, obey our laws, State, Federal and Local and if they piss us off, we'll drop kick them into next week.

I don't who's behind telling us we should be outraged but they are the ones you should probably worry about.

I've got a boat for sale, too

 

[Edgetho]

It was Chinese.

The other thing going on is trying to land grab for solar farms but they've hit a wall around here. People want no part of it

Many, many years ago.

My buddy married his childhood sweetheart who was the daughter of a man that owned a small, very small, manufacturing facility.

A Japanese Company made him an offer on it that was fair. They wanted a couple of Patents he had. They didn't really want the business, just the patents.

He farted around; tried to bargain and brought in a Lawyer and the Japanese walked. The Japanese don't play. For one thing, they HATE Lawyers (as all sentient beings should) and they don't dicker (bring your OL by and we'll dicker). I tried to tell him this without getting in his business but he wouldn't listen.

The business folded just 18 Months later. He went back to being a Lineman and his Wife made good money so they were okay. His FIL and their family had enough money to live well on for quite a while but still.......

You got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.

In some cases, MANY cases, it's best to hold out. I've seen people sell way, way too soon. There are a myraid stories about people selling out too soon. But in this case, Chaz was too old to fight and my buddy, Ed, was too young to know what was really going on. Trouble witih Unions, an encroaching and STUPID City regulatory abomination, no real money for rexpansion and not much of a market for it.........

They should have sold.

The Japanese company ended up getting the patents for less than half their original offer.

It's not easy trying to time when to buy or sell. Timing is everything

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Many, many years ago.

My buddy married his childhood sweetheart who was the daughter of a man that owned a small, very small, manufacturing facility.

A Japanese Company made him an offer on it that was fair. They wanted a couple of Patents he had. They didn't really want the business, just the patents.

He farted around; tried to bargain and brought in a Lawyer and the Japanese walked. The Japanese don't play. For one thing, they HATE Lawyers (as all sentient beings should) and they don't dicker (bring your OL by and we'll dicker). I tried to tell him this without getting in his business but he wouldn't listen.

The business folded just 18 Months later. He went back to being a Lineman and his Wife made good money so they were okay. His FIL and their family had enough money to live well on for quite a while but still.......

You got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.

In some cases, MANY cases, it's best to hold out. I've seen people sell way, way too soon. There are a myraid stories about people selling out too soon. But in this case, Chaz was too old to fight and my buddy, Ed, was too young to know what was really going on. Trouble witih Unions, an encroaching and STUPID City regulatory abomination, no real money for rexpansion and not much of a market for it.........

They should have sold.

The Japanese company ended up getting the patents for less than half their original offer.

It's not easy trying to time when to buy or sell. Timing is everything

The family farm dates back around 150 years. It won't be sold anytime soon. My sister and I won't allow it after Mom passes

 

[westwall]

I wonder if China lets us buy their land?

They don't.

 

[Edgetho]

They don't.

Good answer.

A better one would be, "Who Cares?"

Why would anybody want to buy land in a communist country when the odds of them stealing it from you are near 100%.

Anybody else remember or recall reading about all those Oil Wells and Oil Facilities that were ''Nationalized" in Iran? Venezuela? Even Saudi Arabia....... How about all the businesses and real estate 'nationalized' by Fidel? In BFE? etc, etc, etc, etc ad nauseam?

Why would anybody want to buy property or any other 'real' property in a communist or dimocrap scum country? They're just gonna steal it from you.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I've never understood this.

I remember back when the Japanese bought the Sears Tower and everybody got all uptight and nervous about it, "We're Losing Our Identity!!"

And I'm like, "How you figure that?"

What are they gonna do, ship it back to Japan and steal it from us? All they can do is rent it out, proabably to the same, exact people it was being rented to when they bought it.

If the Chinese buy Billions of Dollars(?) worth of Farm Land in the US.......... So What? They gonna put it in bags and send it by to Wun Hung Lo? They gonna sell it to Iran?

I mean, what are they gonna do that's harmful?

Nothing. If they break the Law, we prosecute them. How tough is that?

Meanwhile, if they spend a Billion Dollars here in this Country, that's a billion dollars infused into our economy.

In the famous words of the Great American, Bugs Bunny, "What's all the hub-bub, Bub?"

The Sears Tower may be in Illinois but you can’t produce massive amounts of salable corn there.