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[Winston]

https://ia801508.us.archive.org/26/... the creation of the Fourteenth Amendment.pdf

I have found the above absolutely fascinating. Mostly focusing on the senate debates, there is just so much there. I mean it was 1866. Sure, the above focuses on the debates concerning the 14th amendment, but they discussed so much more. They laughed together, they laughed at each other, and yet, sometimes, they almost came to blows.

I mean imagine, five hundred years from now. I think the Congressional Record’s days are numbered. I have no doubt that Trump, and his minions, will eliminate it and scrub all remnants of it from the etherworld. Honestly, who can blame them. Because when historians look back, well they can’t help but laugh. Our current Senate doesn’t hold a candle to those members back in 1866.

My oldest child, a daughter, 40 now. But when she was in high school she totally bombed the verbal part of the SAT the first time she took it. She asked for help and I walked her into my library. Yes, I have a library, I always have had one. Even growing up, my bedroom was a library with a desk and a bed, bookshelves surrounding me.

I go straight to the Webster/Haynes debates from 1830. Like the above pdf file, it was a bound edition straight from the Congressional Record. I told her, read it, every word, and when you come across a word you don’t know, look it up, learn it, know it. Second time taking the SAT, she nailed the verbal part. Not to mention she got a damn good idea about state rights and national unity.

But this morning, hours before the sun came up, I ran up on this. But first, let me set the stage. Trumball and Doolittle. Pictures to follow.

Doolittle

Trumball

Look, I don’t think I would want to tangle with Doolittle. Here is the exchange, from the Congressional Record.

Mr. DOOLITTLE. I never stated that.
Mr. TRUMBULL. The Senator spoke of their being responsible to the President.
Mr. DOOLITTLE. So I did, and that is a fact.
Mr. TRUMBULL. How so?
Mr. DOOLITTLE. They are responsible to the President.
Mr. TRUMBULL. They are responsible to the law of the land and not to the President.
Mr. DOOLITTLE rose.
Mr. TRUMBULL. Let the Senator keep cool. I undertake to say that a person holding office, who does not acknowledge his responsibility to the law and his oath of office, but to a President, is not fit to be an officer. No officer is responsible to the President, but his responsibility is to the law under which he acts. The President is not omnipotent in this country. He does not create offices; he cannot appoint an individual to the humblest office in the land except in pursuance of the Constitution and the law. He himself is responsible to the Constitution and the law, and so is the most inferior postmaster in the land. This idea that the offices of this country belong to the President, that men eat his bread and butter, is very erroneous. Why, sir, the President feeds nobody. It is derogatory to the position of any man who holds an office to talk of his eating the bread and butter of the President and being responsible to the President and not to his oath of office, to the law and the Constitution.

Can it be more clear? Is it not easy to see, how far we have declined. Enough already. Yes, it is past time to wake up, clean up, and stand up.

 

[shockedcanadian]

https://ia801508.us.archive.org/26/items/DebatesThatLedToTheCreationOfTheFourteenthAmendment/Debates that led to the creation of the Fourteenth Amendment.pdf

I have found the above absolutely fascinating. Mostly focusing on the senate debates, there is just so much there. I mean it was 1866. Sure, the above focuses on the debates concerning the 14th amendment, but they discussed so much more. They laughed together, they laughed at each other, and yet, sometimes, they almost came to blows.

I mean imagine, five hundred years from now. I think the Congressional Record’s days are numbered. I have no doubt that Trump, and his minions, will eliminate it and scrub all remnants of it from the etherworld. Honestly, who can blame them. Because when historians look back, well they can’t help but laugh. Our current Senate doesn’t hold a candle to those members back in 1866.

My oldest child, a daughter, 40 now. But when she was in high school she totally bombed the verbal part of the SAT the first time she took it. She asked for help and I walked her into my library. Yes, I have a library, I always have had one. Even growing up, my bedroom was a library with a desk and a bed, bookshelves surrounding me.

I go straight to the Webster/Haynes debates from 1830. Like the above pdf file, it was a bound edition straight from the Congressional Record. I told her, read it, every word, and when you come across a word you don’t know, look it up, learn it, know it. Second time taking the SAT, she nailed the verbal part. Not to mention she got a damn good idea about state rights and national unity.

But this morning, hours before the sun came up, I ran up on this. But first, let me set the stage. Trumball and Doolittle. Pictures to follow.

Doolittle

Trumball

Look, I don’t think I would want to tangle with Doolittle. Here is the exchange, from the Congressional Record.

Mr. DOOLITTLE. I never stated that.
Mr. TRUMBULL. The Senator spoke of their being responsible to the President.
Mr. DOOLITTLE. So I did, and that is a fact.
Mr. TRUMBULL. How so?
Mr. DOOLITTLE. They are responsible to the President.
Mr. TRUMBULL. They are responsible to the law of the land and not to the President.
Mr. DOOLITTLE rose.
Mr. TRUMBULL. Let the Senator keep cool. I undertake to say that a person holding office, who does not acknowledge his responsibility to the law and his oath of office, but to a President, is not fit to be an officer. No officer is responsible to the President, but his responsibility is to the law under which he acts. The President is not omnipotent in this country. He does not create offices; he cannot appoint an individual to the humblest office in the land except in pursuance of the Constitution and the law. He himself is responsible to the Constitution and the law, and so is the most inferior postmaster in the land. This idea that the offices of this country belong to the President, that men eat his bread and butter, is very erroneous. Why, sir, the President feeds nobody. It is derogatory to the position of any man who holds an office to talk of his eating the bread and butter of the President and being responsible to the President and not to his oath of office, to the law and the Constitution.

Can it be more clear? Is it not easy to see, how far we have declined. Enough already. Yes, it is past time to wake up, clean up, and stand up.

Term limits. These Senators are responsible to their donors and benefactors first and foremost. This is a major reason why America has an uphill battle to remain by the People and for the People. If you want to know why citizens are going to elect a Communist in NY, they are desperate to elect as far away.from the Establishment as possible (Im sure he has some big bucks behind him). These are the same reasons ironically that Trump won even though they are on vastly different ends of the ideological continuum. People feel helpless to overcome big, deep pocket interests at levels well aboit their cities.

 

[Winston]

Term limits. These Senators are responsible to their donors and benefactors first and foremost. This is a major reason why America has an uphill battle to remain by the People and for the People. If you want to know why citizens are going to elect a Communist in NY, they are desperate to elect as far away.from the Establishment as possible (Im sure he has some big bucks behind him). These are the same reasons ironically that Trump won even though they are on vastly different ends of the ideological continuum. People feel helpless to overcome big, deep pocket interests at levels well aboit their cities.

George Mason, he refused to sign the Constitution precisely because there were no term limits. Hell, he walked out of the convention in disgust. He was so right. His position was simple, no senator, no Congressional representative, should ever be re-elected. You got one term, then you are done. Oh sure, you could run again, but not until you sit out a term. We don't need term limits, we need to accept Mason's proposal, one and done. Works for Duke's basketball team.