USA vs USSR vs Russia (цифры)

[Selivan]

Let's pray to God and talk ...
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For understanding, I ask you to accept the following rules:
I will compare the US, the USSR and Russia using the following:

POINT 0
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1. I mean only "Material values". Please do not talk about Philosophy, Politics ...

Only Finance ...
Material values are our income and expenses that we make to live.

I will designate the expenditures of a person according to the "degree of significance":
- Medicine (a sick person will not eat food)
- Food, clothing and hygiene (a healthy person should eat and keep hygiene so as not to get sick)
- Housing (a well-fed and healthy person must live somewhere)
- Education (a person should know how to get money)
- Equipment, furniture ... (a person should live comfortably)
- The car ... (a man is a lazy creature, besides the vast expanses of America and Russia - very large)
- Relaxation (a person should rest)
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Preamble:
1.1 We consider our income
1.2 We consider our expenses, which I indicated above.
1.3 Then we subtract and get "SAVINGS"
1.4 Then we compare these savings to the USA, the USSR and Russia ...

I think this is the right approach ...
If you do not agree with me, then please do not read and do not waste your and my time ... Ok?

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2. For comparison, I'll take:
- USA - 2016
- USSR - 70s of the 20th century (this is the most indicative period)
- Russia - 2016 year
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For comparison, I will only use official statistics:
- USA - IRS data
- The USSR and Russia - Rosstat
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For comparison, I will use the term "medial person", I do not know how to correctly say in English "medium / medial level" ...
When I write: American, Soviet man or Russian, then I mean it ... "average / medial level" ...

Therefore, I ask you not to object to me with these words:
"... I have other expenses ... one of my friends is a millionaire ... or another"
It's clear?

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3. In America, it is customary to consider income and expenses:
- or annually
- or every hour
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In Russia, it is considered monthly, so I will give figures monthly ...
Sorry, it's more convenient for me ...

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POINT 1
USA

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0. American has an annual income of 54 thousand dollars ...

Or 4500 monthly.
An American pays with this amount:
- Federal tax
- State tax
- Social Security Tax
- Medicare
The American system of paying taxes on income and social deductions is very complicated ... There are many nuances ... I will simply say that an American will pay 5 to 50 percent of his income ... Most likely this figure will be 20 percent.
But ... I'll regret you (I'm kind) and show only 10 percent in calculation ...

SAVINGS (cash in hand) = 4500 - 450 = 4050
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1. Expenses for Medicine.
Insurance in America costs at least $ 150 ...
- This insurance allows the American to lie in the hospital 7-14 days 1 time a year, if he is sick "not very much" ...
- Then he will be thrown out into the street
- Serious illnesses American insurance does not cover ... Americans will sell all their property to stay alive ... The American system allows you to sell all the property of the debtor and does not give him any housing ... This is horrible ...
- In America there is no such thing as "free emergency medical help" - this is when you die and call a car for delivery to the hospital. In America there are 911 - this service costs more than 3000 dollars for a call
"You can not hurt in America!"

SAVINGS = 4050 - 150 = 3900
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2. Food, clothing and hygiene ...
In America - this is called a "standard of living" or "minimum wage", with which income taxes are not taken. An American businessman has no right to pay an employee less than this amount, otherwise - crime and "munlayt"
This figure is 1400 dollars ...
- This figure includes GMOs - products and fast food from monopolies. American food is terrible ... Natural products cost 2-3 times more ...
- Alcohol and cigarettes are not included ...
(Russian tourist in America eats, drinks and smokes 100 dollars a day, or 3000 dollars a month ...)
- Clothing - production of China or second-hand.

SAVINGS = 3900 - 1400 = 2500
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3. Housing ...
This is a very big and interesting topic
therefore, I will try to squeeze it:

3.1 An American has the opportunity to purchase housing through a loan from a bank
For example...
- Apartment-house for 4 families,
- For each family: 100 m2, living room, 2 bedrooms, bathroom, heating (or air conditioning), hot and cold water, sewerage, plot 2000 m2, swimming pool, parking ...
- The house is a primitive carcass (Americans do not know how to build!)
- This house will cost about 300 - 500 thousand dollars. The American buys him in debt for 30 years and pays a monthly 1300-1500 dollars ...
An American can not lose his job! Otherwise, he will lose his home ..

3.2 An American pays a tax on real estate (land and house) ...
I would say that for this house this amount will be 150 dollars

3.3 The American pays utility bills
I would say that for this house this amount will be $ 300

3.4 The American pays the insurance ...
But, in America - real estate insurance - voluntary ...
You can not insure ...

SAVINGS = 2500 - 1300 - 150 - 300 = 750
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4. Education
Russians, when they say "Education", we mean only University education.
For the American, this education is not available ...

5. Equipment, furniture ...
Americans buy these goods if they have accumulated money ...
By the way, the equipment in America is very good.

6. The car ...
A car in America costs from 100 to 1,000,000 dollars.
I would say that Americans buy used cars worth 15-20 thousand dollars ...
Where they take money to buy - I do not understand ... Most likely - they are given by a mom or dad, since the American budget does not allow them to do it ...
Therefore, I will not consider the cost of buying a car ...

6.1. Car insurance, gasoline costs, repairs, fuel - 500 dollars

SAVINGS = 750 - 500 = 250
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7. Relaxation
Americans do not have the opportunity to rest, so the American youth works for every dollar ...
Old people have the opportunity to chat on forums

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So, we will draw conclusions:
1. Americans have monthly SAVINGS = 250 dollars ... This amount allows:
- 2 times a month to go to a good restaurant and eat natural food
- or save to buy, for example, a cabinet, after 1 year ....
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2. American:
- can not get an education
- eats very poorly and wears cheap clothes
- Equipment and Cars in America are very good ...

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Well...
How did you like it?
I ask you not to judge strictly, perhaps there are mistakes.
I will be grateful if you indicate

I will write an article about the USSR later ...
Americans, you will be really surprised

 

[Selivan]

Sorry, I forgot that the American pays sales tax ...
That's 5-10 percent from every purchase in the store.
Consequently...
It's still minus $ 150 a month

 

[Moonglow]

a million dollar car, I'd like to see that..

 

[Sunni Man]

a million dollar car, I'd like to see that..

See it.....heck I'd like to own it. ....

 

[Moonglow]

a million dollar car, I'd like to see that..

See it.....heck I'd like to own it. ....

Me too....and the babes that go with it..well you would probably rent or lease them....

 

[Moonglow]

In my area homes are 70-250 thousand..Cars 1,500hundred -70 thousand

 

[Inmar]

Me wanna back in the USSR

 

[Moonglow]

Me wanna back in the USSR

I think there is plenty of room to back up...

 

[Inmar]

Буду ждать статью про СССР

 

[Selivan]

POINT 3
the USSR

First of all, I will consider income and expenses in Soviet rubles ..
1 dollar = 0.6 Soviet ruble ... in the 70s

Next item:
Soviet people never paid taxes or insurance
None!
The government pays for everything ...
Why?
Because in the USSR, there was no "private property" ...

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0. The Soviet man has a monthly income of 120 rubles.
This is "cash in hand"
The tax on income, pension and insurance deductions is kept by the accounting department of the enterprise, so the Soviet people did not even know what "taxes" are ...

SAVINGS (cash on hand) = 120
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1. Expenses for Medicine.
All Medicine in the USSR was free of charge
No "insurance", the Government pays for everything!

- In addition, the Soviet man had the opportunity to relax once a year for 24 days and get treatment at the Sanatorium ...
- The quality of medicine is excellent, because the doctors "treated the whole person, but not only his illness." It was impossible to violate this rule by a doctor, since the Soviet laws were very strict.
- In the USSR, any person who feels bad, can call "free car ambulance." The arrival time of doctors is less than 15 minutes, otherwise they will be punished
- In the USSR there was a system of "district doctor". This doctor should visit the elderly once a week and check their health
- Inpatient treatment is also free, including treatment, medicine, food ... Nutrition in Soviet hospitals was under strict control

2. Food, clothing and hygiene ...
To assess the level of expenditure on food, you should take the so-called "командировочные"
This figure is equal to 2,6 rubles per day or 80 rubles per month
- Alcohol and cigarettes are not included ...
- Clothes - not included
All food in the USSR was natural, it was produced, according to the Government Standard (GOST). The manufacturer had no right to violate this standard. For violation - a long time in prison or shooting ...
By the way, in modern Russia, Russians prefer to buy products that comply with the Soviet GOST ...

SAVINGS (cash on hand) = 120 - 80 = 40

3. Housing ...
All housing in the USSR was free ..

3.1
The government had an obligation to provide the citizen with housing when he got a job and worked for 2 years.
Under the concept of "housing" in the USSR understood:
- Apartment
- Communal apartment
- Dormitory
If the Government did not have the opportunity to provide the Apartment, they gave a less convenient option, and the person occupied the queue for getting an apartment ...

3.2.
The government had an obligation to provide urban citizens with a suburban land plot that had a minimum area of 600 m2. This is called - DACHA ... There is nothing like this in America.

3.3.
The government allowed Soviet people to buy an apartment in private ownership ...
This apartment was worth 5-10 thousand rubles in Moscow (the car cost about the same)
The Soviet man had a salary of 120 rubles a month ...
Do you think that it is impossible to buy an apartment?
ha ha ha ...
But in real life, Soviet people had the opportunity to go to the Arctic regions and Siberia. Salary in those places - from 500 to 2000 rubles!
Thus, a Soviet man could buy an apartment in 2 years.

3.4.
Communal expenses were purely symbolic and fixed - about 2 rubles
This amount includes:
- payment for accommodation
- Central communications, including heating, gas, sewerage, hot and cold water .. There were no "flow meters" - you can open a tap with water and pour it all day or burn gas as much as you want ...
- But electricity - payment on the counter, about 1 ruble

SAVINGS = 40 - 2 - 1 = 37
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4. Education
Russians, when they say "Education", we mean only University education.
All education in the USSR is free ...
In addition, the Government paid students a small scholarship - 40 rubles .. Students spent this money on beer and girls, and then they were hungry ..

5-6
Car, equipment and furniture
This is a deficit
Soviet people did not have the opportunity to buy

7. Relaxation
The government guaranteed paid leave. Soviet people have never been afraid of losing their jobs.
There is a myth created by American propaganda that Soviet people did not have the opportunity to go abroad ... This is complete nonsense, do not look CNN

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So, we will draw conclusions:
1. Soviet people have monthly SAVINGS = 37 rubles ... This amount allows you to:
- 2 times a month to go to a good restaurant
- or save to buy, for example, a cabinet, 10 years later ....
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2. The Soviet Man
- does not have the opportunity to buy equipment, furniture, car
- eats very well and wears natural clothes
- Has the best education in the world
- Government pays for education, apartment, medicine

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, with all of that, strange that there was and is immigration from Russia to the US, but very little immigration from the US to Russia.

 

[Inmar]

Well, with all of that, strange that there was and is immigration from Russia to the US, but very little immigration from the US to Russia.

As far as I remember, in the 1970s, emigration from the USSR was banned. You are confusing the USSR and Russia

 

[Inmar]

I will add that in the Soviet Union the old people received a pension that allowed them not only to support themselves, but also to help children, so the young people married early and gave birth to children at once. The government paid for not only holidays, sanatoria, but also holiday homes in the South, as well as kindergartens, scout camps and much more.

 

[BlackSand]

a million dollar car, I'd like to see that..

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The Pagani Huayra $1.1 million ...





The ST1 50S Zenvo $1.8 Million ...




The Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Convertible $2 million ...




The Lamborghini Sesto Elemento $2.9 Million ...


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[Selivan]

The following paragraph:

Modern Russia ...

 

[Moonglow]

a million dollar car, I'd like to see that..

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The Pagani Huayra $1.1 million ...





The ST1 50S Zenvo $1.8 Million ...




The Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Convertible $2 million ...




The Lamborghini Sesto Elemento $2.9 Million ...


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Why there is one in every driveway in the USA....Ol' decadent USA...

 

[Inmar]

Как я понял, тут терки начались...

Поэтому, Moonglow... наденьте трусы и не пугайте своей голой жопой русских ежей...
Иначе.. русские оторвут вам эту жопу

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The Pagani Huayra $1.1 million ...





The ST1 50S Zenvo $1.8 Million ...




The Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Convertible $2 million ...




The Lamborghini Sesto Elemento $2.9 Million ...


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Why there is one in every driveway in the USA....Ol' decadent USA...[/QUOTE]

 

[Moonglow]

Try again..

 

[Inmar]

Наденьте трусики и помойтесь...
Я не люблю ебать грязного придурка

 

[Selivan]

Наденьте трусики и помойтесь...
Я не люблю ебать грязного придурка

+ Millard dollars and respect