American beaten to death by Israeli settlers in the West Bank

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So..lost in all the Gaza noise---Illegal Israeli settlers continue to assault and murder with impunity on the West Bank..
This is not new--but the incidents are increasing.
I guess, when God gives you the land...you don't let a little thing like international law stand in your way~


A 20-year-old American from Florida was beaten to death by Israeli settlers on Friday while visiting relatives in the occupied West Bank, according to his family and the Palestinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Sayfollah Musallet, known as Saif, was “brutally beaten to death” in the town of al-Mazra’a ash-Sharqiya, north of Ramallah, the family said in a statement on social media and confirmed to NBC News. According to the family, a group of settlers blocked an ambulance from reaching Musallet for about three hours.
After the settlers cleared, Musallet’s brother was able to reach him and carry him to the ambulance, according to the statement. However, “Saif died before reaching the hospital.”

A second man, Mohammed al-Shalabi, 23, was also killed in the same incident, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Hundreds of thousands of Israeli settlers live in developments built in Palestinian territories that are widely considered illegal by the international community. Since October 2023, when Hamas attacked southern Israel, sparking the war in Gaza, violence perpetrated by settlers in the West Bank has surged, often aided or abetted by Israeli security forces.

Settler attacks include raids on villages, arson targeting homes and farmland, and physical assaults on residents that have regularly turned deadly.

The town is known for its olive trees and rolling hills, where many modern Palestinian homes are built, including some of the West Bank’s more opulent houses. Families gathered to barbecue and relax, many of them traveling from the U.S. for vacation, but Milbes said growing settler violence has transformed the area.

“There’s nothing left over here for people to enjoy, the settlers have taken everything,” he told NBC News. “People can’t even go there anymore. The settlers have burned the vacation homes, they’ve encroached and put their stuff there.”

In March, a United Nations report warned that settler violence had “increased in a climate of continuing impunity.”

Yesh Din, an Israeli human rights group, said settlers rarely face legal consequences for violence perpetrated against Palestinians. Between 2005 and 2023, more than 93% of all investigations were closed without an indictment and only 3% of investigations led to a conviction, according to a report by the organization.

“The low conviction rate sends the message that the law enforcement system, in its entirety, does not consider settler violence to be a serious issue, contributing to the perpetrators’ sense of immunity,” the report said.

Since October 2023, 961 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank, according to a database maintained by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, a sharp rise from previous years.
 
..... In March, a United Nations report warned that settler violence had “increased in a climate of continuing impunity” .....
Gosh! Golly! We never would have guessed! I just don't understand the definition of "warned" in this context. Who is the warning meant for? Has the UN begun collecting evidence in order to bring Israel to justice? They don't have enough proof yet? :auiqs.jpg:
 
After reading several articles about this incident, it was clearly part of a much larger conflict involving Palestinians, Israelis and the Israeli police. Two were killed, ten others were injured.

What is important to understand is that this, like many other similar stories, is painted as nice young American man who owns an ice cream truck visits family and gets set upon by the evil Jews. This is not the truth of it. The truth is that two groups with deeply held opposing ideologies, living in close proximity to one another, sometimes come into conflict with each other, due to the actions and violence of people on both sides.
 
After reading several articles about this incident, it was clearly part of a much larger conflict involving Palestinians, Israelis and the Israeli police. Two were killed, ten others were injured.

What is important to understand is that this, like many other similar stories, is painted as nice young American man who owns an ice cream truck visits family and gets set upon by the evil Jews. This is not the truth of it. The truth is that two groups with deeply held opposing ideologies, living in close proximity to one another, sometimes come into conflict with each other, due to the actions and violence of people on both sides.

True enough.
It is also true the Israel's Supreme Court has ruled that the Israeli West Bank settlements are illegal...and yet...there they are.
I actually get the internal politics involved...the Right-leaning religious hardliners behind most of it.

Still, the 3% conviction rate tells the real story, I think.

Gaza was the permission-giver many saw..to rid the West Bank of Palestinians who had grown too rich..and too comfortable.

As most of us know..this settlement conflict has been ongoing for decades now.

One must not forget that most of the Israelis truly believe that God gave them that land.

When God gave it to them, it is instructive to note that God commanded the genocide of several tribes of natives..saving only one..for slaves ya know.

I'm fairly sure that there are a large number of people in Israel who feel just this way--and that God has sanctioned it.

“However, you must not let any living thing survive among the cities of these people the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance. You must completely destroy them – the Hethite, Amorite, Canaanite, Perizzite, Hivite, and Jebusite ….” (Deut. 20:16-18)

“Now go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Do not spare them. Kill men and women, infants and nursing babies, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.” (1 Sam 15:3)
 
It is also true the Israel's Supreme Court has ruled that the Israeli West Bank settlements are illegal...and yet...there they are.
Source? Link? I believe this to be incorrect (assuming you mean every Israeli living in Area C) but would like to offer the opportunity to back up this claim. (You might mean a very specific case settled in 2020?)
Still, the 3% conviction rate tells the real story, I think.
What is the rate of the PA convicting Palestinian citizens of violence against Israelis? Just curious.
One must not forget that most of the Israelis truly believe that God gave them that land.
I tend not to get involved in discussions of religious beliefs as a basis for Jewish or Arab self-determination, largely because it is unnecessary given the legal and ethical arguments. Also, because people tend to have a shallow or hostile understanding of religions to which they do not adhere.
 
Source? Link? I believe this to be incorrect (assuming you mean every Israeli living in Area C) but would like to offer the opportunity to back up this claim. (You might mean a very specific case settled in 2020?)
adhere.
Yup...i imagine that's the one. Not every Israeli..just those settled on private property...most of whom are still there.



Hayut ruled that section 3 of the law, which enables recognition of rights of use and possession of land for settlements built “in good faith or with the ‘consent of the state’” violated the property rights of Palestinian residents in the West Bank, as well as their rights to dignity and equality. The violation was based on the provision of clear priority given to Israeli residents over Palestinian residents, both in the enforcement of procedures and administrative orders regarding settlement construction, and in the allocation of land and retroactive legitimation of the illegal construction there. The priority allotted under the law to the Israeli residents over the Palestinians, Hayut held, was “without any individual examination and without giving sufficient weight to the special status of the Palestinian inhabitants of the area as ‘protected residents’” (para. 110), a status previously recognized by the Israeli Supreme Court with regard to the latter inhabitants (para. 33).


Violation of rights under Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty may be upheld if based on “a law befitting the values of the State of Israel, enacted for a proper purpose, and to an extent no greater than is required.” (Basic Law § 8 (the “limitation clause”).) Hayut determined that the law’s express objective of “regulating settlement in Judea and Samaria and enabling its grounding and development” (Law on Regulation and Settlement § 1) constituted “a retroactive legalization of unlawful construction on ‘non-governmental land’” (Hayut opinion, para. 61). Eminent domain may in principle be justified if it is based on public need. According to Hayut, however,


[e]ven the most expansive interpretation of the term “public need” does not allow a de facto expropriation of real estate intended to benefit a particular and known population group – Israeli settlers in the area – by way of the government forcibly taking from another population group – the Palestinian residents – without the expectation that this group might also enjoy the consequences of such taking in the future. This is especially true given the fact that the taking is from the areas’ Palestinians, who are, as mentioned, “protected residents.” (Para. 79.)
 
After reading several articles about this incident, it was clearly part of a much larger conflict involving Palestinians, Israelis and the Israeli police. Two were killed, ten others were injured.

painted as nice young American man who owns an ice cream truck visits family and gets set upon by the evil Jews. This is not the truth of it.
I-Scream Truck

The Judeophobe media are saying that "American" Paleonasty was a Good Huma man?
 
Yup...i imagine that's the one. Not every Israeli..just those settled on private property...most of whom are still there.
Yes, agreed.

Property and land-use laws in Area C are a really complex tangle of Ottoman land laws, Jordanian law, current Israeli law, military considerations, and the Oslo Accords, combined with a lack of written documentation. And, quite frankly, everyone (Israelis and Palestinians as individuals and both governments) is trying to exploit this complexity to their benefit.
 
Yep. Sure enough. What his family actually said: a group of settlers assaulted Musallet while he was defending his land

"while defending his land"
Translation: while committing an act of terrorism.


Source


You have expressed an opposition to making unsupportable assumptions yet immediately assume that Musallet must be guilty of terrorism only because he was visiting Palestinian relatives.

Israel's rabid right wing Zionist "Settlers" are infamous for unprovoked murder, arson and harassment of other Jews, Christians and Muslims yet it's always the native Palestinian who are at fault when there's a conflict.

Upon what do you base your assumption that Musallet, an American citizen, must be guilty of terrorism.

Thanks,
 
I'm fairly sure that there are a large number of people in Israel who feel just this way--and that God has sanctioned it.

Where is the prophet would communicate such a sanction?

Sounds like Isrealis are just like other humans....when the constraints come off or are relaxed...they will push to the limit.

However, I am not sure just what this guy was doing that got him beaten so badly.
 
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A Palestinian /American Citizen was beaten to death in the West bank by crazed Zionist Colonialists another shot, those Colonialist thugs are out of control, i saw a report yesterday they are now occupying Palestinian homes while the Palestinians are still living inside, they also killed these Palestinians in three days in Gaza trying to get food.

 
You have expressed an opposition to making unsupportable assumptions yet immediately assume that Musallet must be guilty of terrorism only because he was visiting Palestinian relatives.
I based my claim on the statement made by the family that Musallet was killed while "defending his land". This is to be understood as a mutual conflict, with both sides committing violence.

It has nothing to do with him visiting relatives, him living in Florida, or him owning an ice cream truck. These are irrelevant details which, imo, are meant to draw sympathy for him.

The OP neglects to mention the aspect of mutual conflict, which is why I corrected it.
 
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