US and Russia, will there be a difference in the future

[Old Rocks]

Rather than just celebrating the removal of a dictator, the Trump admin is sounding intentions of invading and seizing other nations, Colombia, Mexico, Greenland, and others unnamed. Is this the US that we want? How is this any different from the Russians invasion of Ukraine? There is justification for the removal of Maduro, provided we simply do not use that for the seizure of Venezuelan oil. How do you justify seizure of a territory of a long time ally? And the destruction of NATO in so doing. I think we have to realize that Trump is no longer in a mental condition to govern this nation or any other, for that matter.

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[Darkwind]

Rather than just celebrating the removal of a dictator, the Trump admin is sounding intentions of invading and seizing other nations, Colombia, Mexico, Greenland, and others unnamed. Is this the US that we want? How is this any different from the Russians invasion of Ukraine? There is justification for the removal of Maduro, provided we simply do not use that for the seizure of Venezuelan oil. How do you justify seizure of a territory of a long time ally? And the destruction of NATO in so doing. I think we have to realize that Trump is no longer in a mental condition to govern this nation or any other, for that matter.

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I'm beginning to think that about 98% of those here on the left are mentally unfit to post here.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Russia had a valid reason to invade as it had become existentional situation for them.

Trump has ZERO reasons to topple leaders at whim, Maduro maybe but he was replaced by a similar type of leader thus little change can be expected.

 

[marvin martian]

I'm beginning to think that about 98% of those here on the left are mentally unfit to post here.

I learned that beyond a doubt last week when I posted a thread and found out EVERY leftist on this board believes both the Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump shootings were faked. EVERY one of them.

Thread 'How widespread on the left is the belief that Charlie Kirk's murder and Donald Trump's attempted assassination were faked?'

Jan 2, 2026

We've all been seeing increasing mental illness from the left. It's no more evident than the common belief among them that both the Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump shootings were faked.

There are some here on the board who are blatantly out about it, and others who have also claimed the Trump assassination attempt was fake.

I estimate probably about 50% of the left overall believe this, and close to 100% on this board:

Kirk was not assassinated, and you guys can drop the MAGAT victimhood. How many MAGATS are now threatening to kill MTG?

Like the Charlie Kirk assassination...

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[Oddball]

Rather than just celebrating the removal of a dictator, the Trump admin is sounding intentions of invading and seizing other nations, Colombia, Mexico, Greenland, and others unnamed. Is this the US that we want? How is this any different from the Russians invasion of Ukraine? There is justification for the removal of Maduro, provided we simply do not use that for the seizure of Venezuelan oil. How do you justify seizure of a territory of a long time ally? And the destruction of NATO in so doing. I think we have to realize that Trump is no longer in a mental condition to govern this nation or any other, for that matter.

MSN

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False Equivalence Theater presents....

 

[kyzr]

Russia had a valid reason to invade as it had become existential situation for them.

Bullshit. Ukraine was no more of a threat to Russia than Finland is.

Trump has ZERO reasons to topple leaders at whim, Maduro maybe but he was replaced by a similar type of leader thus little change can be expected.

Not "at a whim". Trump is toppling narco-states that killed 100,000 Americans every year, plus in VZ's case thy have a shitload of oil.

 

[Samofvt]

Russia had a valid reason to invade as it had become existentional situation for them.

Is that why Russia took over the Crimea by force in 2014? What was the threat then?

Is that why Russia invaded the eastern Donbas and took the territory by force later that year? What was the threat then?

Is that why Russia slowly took over the country of Georgia and now uses is as a puppet state? What was the threat then?

What was the "existentional" [sic] threat when Putin declared his intentions to take Ukraine back to Bush Jr. in 2000?

No, there was no threat. And there is no rationality for obliterating every city they occupy while bombing civilian targets across Ukraine. They want land, control, mineral wealth, and power.

Trump has ZERO reasons to topple leaders at whim, Maduro maybe but he was replaced by a similar type of leader thus little change can be expected.

It's not Trump that has reasons, it's the American People who have reasons. You sit there in you opulent accomodations without realizing how hard times have gotten for the people in Venezuela. You sit there ignorant about the tons of deadly drugs that communist regiem is sending into the USA in order to kill and weaken our country. You sit there ignorant about the fact that the wealth from the oil in Venezuela was not going to the citizens, but was being stolen by the communist regime to fund corruption, including funding the Kremlin.

 

[Samofvt]

Rather than just celebrating the removal of a dictator,

[The celebrations are mostly from the Venezuelans who had to flee their country because of the horrible conditions there]

the Trump admin is sounding intentions of invading and seizing other nations, Colombia, Mexico, Greenland, and others unnamed.

Nope. I have not heard of any intentions to invade the other countries as long as they continue communicating and help work towards a better future for the western hemisphere.

Is this the US that we want?

Your narrative is incorrect. But yes, we do want to stabilize our region of the world and prevent the spread of the Russian/Chinese style communism where dictators abuse their people.

How is this any different from the Russians invasion of Ukraine?

Russia intends to keep the territory of Ukraine and grow it's empire. The US intends to turn the management of Venezuela back over to it's people as soon as the communist abusers withdraw. Big difference.

There is justification for the removal of Maduro, provided we simply do not use that for the seizure of Venezuelan oil.

"We" will not be seizing the oil. The extraction will be turned over to the companies who will do it as economically as possible and who will distribute the profits to the people of Venezuela (especially those who work at the plants). Don't you agree this would be much better than the theft of the oil that was going on under the communist regime for the past 25 years?

How do you justify seizure of a territory of a long time ally? And the destruction of NATO in so doing. I think we have to realize that Trump is no longer in a mental condition to govern this nation or any other, for that matter.

The seizure of the Venezuelan territory was done years ago by the communists. This is a liberation of the territory to hand it back to it's own people.

 

[Stann]

Rather than just celebrating the removal of a dictator, the Trump admin is sounding intentions of invading and seizing other nations, Colombia, Mexico, Greenland, and others unnamed. Is this the US that we want? How is this any different from the Russians invasion of Ukraine? There is justification for the removal of Maduro, provided we simply do not use that for the seizure of Venezuelan oil. How do you justify seizure of a territory of a long time ally? And the destruction of NATO in so doing. I think we have to realize that Trump is no longer in a mental condition to govern this nation or any other, for that matter.

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As long as there are people like trump around there will be no difference.