Updated Presidents ranking

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Now I like Jimmy Carter, but he wasn't a very good President. How could he get a higher rating the than George W. Oops I missed it. George H.W. Bush did come out higher. Jimmy rated better than Son-Of-A-Bush, because the SOB got us into the war in the middle east on false pretenses. Even Geral Ford did a better job, by the historians, even though he pardoned Nixon. The rest of the list pretty good, I guess. I don't remember enough history to know why Pierce and Buchanon came in below Trump.

I always feel bad for Carter. He gets a bad rap. It's true he was not the greatest president, but he was and still is a good-hearted man. He founded Habitat for Humanity and still volunteers and he's in his late 90s.

 

[Rye Catcher]

They are in an annex of the survey
Republicans don’t trust Historians anyway

Just like they don’t trust Scientists, Healthcare Professionals, Elections, Polls, Weathermen, Educators or anyone else who presents information that doesn’t meet their agenda

Correct.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No it's not "just a matter of opinion". That's what simple Simon's believe.

rye its matter of opinion....these guys sit there and sift through all this shit about these guys and make a list and then they all compare notes and make their final list....some of them may not agree on who is the best but they have to agree on who is....matter of opinion.....

 

[rightwinger]

I always feel bad for Carter. He gets a bad rap. It's true he was not the greatest president, but he was and still is a good-hearted man. He founded Habitat for Humanity and still volunteers and he's in his late 90s.

Carter actually worked
Didn’t just put on a hard hat, drive a few nails and leave when the cameras were gone

 

[rightwinger]

rye its matter of opinion....these guys sit there and sift through all this shit about these guys and make a list and then they all compare notes and make their final list....some of them may not agree on who is the best but they have to agree on who is....matter of opinion.....

You are just making shit up
They have set criteria and apply objective measures

 

[DigitalDrifter]

One Dimocrat in the top 5, and that one interned all Japanese Americans. LOL!

 

[Rye Catcher]

FDR is so overrated.

And if you look at these lists you can always see the bias, not necessarily political, but the fact that these historians are alive now and you'll notice the top of the list is almost always comprised of either Founding Fathers (who are glorified) or contemporary presidents that these people actually lived through or were born shortly thereafter and are more aware of their legacy than say the president in 1880.

And if you look at these lists you can always see your bias.

Methodology | C-SPAN Survey on Presidents 2021 | C-SPAN.org

www.c-span.org

Please readers read this link ^^^, and it will answer most of the questions on the legitimacy of the survey.

 

[Rye Catcher]

rye its matter of opinion....these guys sit there and sift through all this shit about these guys and make a list and then they all compare notes and make their final list....some of them may not agree on who is the best but they have to agree on who is....matter of opinion.....

totally wrong:

Methodology | C-SPAN Survey on Presidents 2021 | C-SPAN.org

www.c-span.org

Read the link!

 

[FA_Q2]

No it's not "just a matter of opinion". That's what simple Simon's believe.

Yes it is. There is no objective measures here to point out what is better or worse. Those are VALUE judgments. By definition, those are subjective and a matter of opinion.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Three of the top 5 are Republicans.

 

[FA_Q2]

FDR is so overrated.

And if you look at these lists you can always see the bias, not necessarily political, but the fact that these historians are alive now and you'll notice the top of the list is almost always comprised of either Founding Fathers (who are glorified) or contemporary presidents that these people actually lived through or were born shortly thereafter and are more aware of their legacy than say the president in 1880.

That is a primary problem with 'best president' lists. Historians cannot rate recent presidents, they are outside their expertise there and it is almost impossible to see the forest when you are in the trees. We have no idea how these people will impact future generations.

It does surprise me that anyone places Obama so high, there is almost nothing you can point to as a good reason for it. He is only placed there because he made history by being the first black president.

 

[blackhawk]

 

[iamwhatiseem]

These "historian" lists always crack me up

They are ridiculous.
Obama.... runs on lowering healthcare insurance and prescription costs... passes massive unAffordable Healthcare act that dramatically increases cost for literally 80% of the population and completely left out big pharma.
Bailed out investment banks while 2.2 million Americans lost their homes... middle class suffered deeply for 6 years while Wall Street and the investor class had record profit years. Wages remained almost completely stagnant his entire Presidency, yet the richer got wealthier during the same years faster and wealthier than any other time in history.... and they put him in the top 10. Imbeciles.

 

[Meathead]

only one to lose popular vote twice,

You, as a historian, must realize that Adalai Stevenson lost the popular vote twice. I am sure you're just as accomplished as those polled.

 

[FA_Q2]

Notice how criminal trump is almost at the bottom of the list, while President Obama is at the top 10 in history...

And notice how Ragan is above Obama. He was better than Obama. Must have been as, after all, these hare historians that placed him there.

 

[B. Kidd]

A bunch of pointy headed academics, who sit around in the faculty lounge and rate the smell of one anthers' farts.

And have policy plotted the demise of America and sold it to today's Dimm Neo-Marxist Party.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Other than being the first black president, there was nothing "great" about Obama and his administration. These so-called historians probably felt they better place him high or else face the wrath of those that would start barking racism accusations had they ranked him lower.

 

[easyt65]

Notice how criminal trump is almost at the bottom of the list, while President Obama is at the top 10 in history...

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HISTORIANS SURVEY RESULTS CATEGORY​

TOTAL SCORES/OVERALL RANKINGS​

President	2021 Final Score	Overall Rankings
2021	2017	2009	2000
Abraham Lincoln	897	1	1	1	1
George Washington	851	2	2	2	3
Franklin D. Roosevelt	841	3	3	3	2
Theodore Roosevelt	785	4	4	4	4
Dwight D. Eisenhower	734	5	5	8	9
Harry S. Truman	713	6	6	5	5
Thomas Jefferson	704	7	7	7	7
John F. Kennedy	699	8	8	6	8
Ronald Reagan	681	9	9	10	11
Barack Obama	664	10	12	NA	NA
Lyndon B. Johnson	654	11	10	11	10
James Monroe	643	12	13	15	14
Woodrow Wilson	617	13	11	9	6
William McKinley	612	14	16	16	15
John Adams	609	15	19	17	16
James Madison	604	16	17	20	18
John Quincy Adams	603	17	21	19	19
James K. Polk	599	18	14	12	12
William J. Clinton	594	19	15	14	21
Ulysses S. Grant	590	20	22	23	33
George H. W. Bush	585	21	20	18	20
Andrew Jackson	568	22	18	13	13
William Howard Taft	543	23	24	24	24
Calvin Coolidge	535	24	26	26	27
Grover Cleveland	523	25	23	21	17
Jimmy Carter	506	26	27	25	22
James A. Garfield	506	27	29	28	29
Gerald R. Ford	498	28	25	22	23
George W. Bush	495	29	33	36	NA
Chester A. Arthur	472	30	35	32	32
Richard M. Nixon	464	31	28	27	26
Benjamin Harrison	462	32	30	30	31
Rutherford B. Hayes	456	33	31	33	25
Martin Van Buren	455	34	34	31	30
Zachary Taylor	449	35	32	29	28
Herbert Hoover	396	36	36	34	34
Warren G. Harding	388	37	40	38	38
Millard Fillmore	378	38	37	37	35
John Tyler	354	39	39	35	36
William Henry Harrison	354	40	38	39	37
Donald J. Trump	312	41	NA	NA	NA
Franklin Pierce	312	42	41	40	39
Andrew Johnson	230	43	42	41	40
James Buchanan	227	44	43	42	41

The rankings are BS.

Want to see real rankings? Go to a Trump rally then go to Biden event.

. lol

 

[B. Kidd]

Other than being the first black president, there was nothing "great" about Obama and his administration. These so-called historians probably felt they better place him high or else face the wrath of those that would start barking racism accusations had they ranked him lower.

Obama's greatest accomplishment was politicizing the IRS, our intelligence agencies, and lastly our military as he purged numerous good officers from it.
That left us with Gen. Milley and other ass sucking syncophants.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

A bunch of pointy headed academics, who sit around in the faculty lounge and rate the smell of one anthers' farts.

Mind-Raping Pedagogic Pedophiles