U.S. intelligence chiefs directly contradict President Trump on Iran and North Korea in a new assess

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Great, so in ten years if NK has reneged on this deal you can come back and say "told you so"

Because everyone did "tell us so". But what I will not do is blame Trump when they do. Trump may be an ignorant, classless, unethical moron, but he's our moron. And I don't blame our leaders for the actions of our enemies.

 

[kyzr]

Is IRAN terrorism central in the ME? yes or no? WTF

Way to deflect.

This is what was stated about Iran:

On Iran, Mr. Coats cited Tehran’s continued support of terrorism in Europe and the Middle East, including sponsoring Houthis in Yemen and Shiite militants in Iraq. He also said that he believed that Iranian hard-liners would continue to challenge centrist rivals.

But on one of Mr. Trump’s key assertions — that Iran had cheated on the spirit of the 2015 nuclear agreement even if it was temporarily following its terms — Mr. Coats said Tehran continued to comply with the deal even after the president announced in May that the United States would withdraw from it.

“We do not believe Iran is currently undertaking activities we judge necessary to produce a nuclear device,” Mr. Coats said.

He added, however, that Iranian officials have “publicly threatened to push the boundaries” of the nuclear agreement if it did not see benefits that were promised, including a resumption of oil sales and an end to American sanctions against its financial transactions around the world.

I'm not sure how to classify this discussion. Is it about alternative facts or about CNN fake news regarding the intel chiefs' assessment of Iran? The CNN story I saw claimed that the intel chiefs contradicted Trump's view of Iran. They showed Mr. Coats saying that Iran was following the agreement, contradicting Trump.
Yet your quote above states "...that Iran had cheated on the spirit of the 2015 nuclear agreement even if it was temporarily following its terms"
So I don't see CNN's claim that the intel chiefs contradicted Trump??
I'll chalk it up to CNN's fake news regarding Trump. I don't see any contradiction.

 

[JimH52]

The quality of the Intel means nothing when you are dealing with an incompetent that appears to be a serious Russian Asset.

You are a buffoon, who is blinded by your hatred for one man....You coldn't care less if Murica gets embroiled in more idiotic foreign wars, and more young men get killed and limbs blown off, as long as you can screech ORANGE MAN BAAAAAD! on a daily basis.

Get some ******* help.

Did you read "5,000 troops to Columbia" on the tablet of the buffoon Bolton?

If trump is not a Russian Asset...he is putting up a great act. He dismisses our Intel while making Pro Putin moves.

Serious question here.

In the last 2 years can you tell me the top 3 things that Trump has actually done that make you think "Russian agent?"

Agreed with Putin over US Intelligence

Advocated pulling troops out of Syria giving it over to Putin

Had clandestine meetings with Putin...and withholding details

Bragged to Russian diplomats in the WH .that he fired Comey and the Russian thing is over....while denying US reporters access.

Continually denies that Russia hacked the election....even as his own US Intel says otherwise.

trump is a treasonous bastard....

 

[easyt65]

Obama bowed to other world leaders to show respect.

Sure looks like he's groveling /
attempting to give a BJ.

 

[easyt65]

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[Claudette]

Is IRAN terrorism central in the ME? yes or no? WTF

Yup. They funnel money to every terrorist organization out there.

They sure loved getting those billions that Barry and Kerry made sure they got. That will fund a lot of terrorists and keep them funded for the nuke quest.

What a great bunch of peace loving death cults members they all are.

 

[easyt65]

 

[L.K.Eder]

Is IRAN terrorism central in the ME? yes or no? WTF

Way to deflect.

This is what was stated about Iran:

On Iran, Mr. Coats cited Tehran’s continued support of terrorism in Europe and the Middle East, including sponsoring Houthis in Yemen and Shiite militants in Iraq. He also said that he believed that Iranian hard-liners would continue to challenge centrist rivals.

But on one of Mr. Trump’s key assertions — that Iran had cheated on the spirit of the 2015 nuclear agreement even if it was temporarily following its terms — Mr. Coats said Tehran continued to comply with the deal even after the president announced in May that the United States would withdraw from it.

“We do not believe Iran is currently undertaking activities we judge necessary to produce a nuclear device,” Mr. Coats said.

He added, however, that Iranian officials have “publicly threatened to push the boundaries” of the nuclear agreement if it did not see benefits that were promised, including a resumption of oil sales and an end to American sanctions against its financial transactions around the world.

I'm not sure how to classify this discussion. Is it about alternative facts or about CNN fake news regarding the intel chiefs' assessment of Iran? The CNN story I saw claimed that the intel chiefs contradicted Trump's view of Iran. They showed Mr. Coats saying that Iran was following the agreement, contradicting Trump.
Yet your quote above states "...that Iran had cheated on the spirit of the 2015 nuclear agreement even if it was temporarily following its terms"
So I don't see CNN's claim that the intel chiefs contradicted Trump??
I'll chalk it up to CNN's fake news regarding Trump. I don't see any contradiction.

Pathetic fail at reading comprehension.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Is IRAN terrorism central in the ME? yes or no? WTF

Yup. They funnel money to every terrorist organization out there.

They sure loved getting those billions that Barry and Kerry made sure they got. That will fund a lot of terrorists and keep them funded for the nuke quest.

What a great bunch of peace loving death cults members they all are.

Where do you get your info? From US intel chiefs? Lol.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump chastises intel chiefs after they contradict him on Iran and claims of foreign policy success - CNNPolitics

He would rather take the position of his keeper, Vladimir Putin. He is publicly and without a moment of hesitation promoting lies and false characterizations over the fact based findings of his OWN APPOINTED Intel Chiefs.

File that under ‘Iraq WMD’s’

 

[kyzr]

Is IRAN terrorism central in the ME? yes or no? WTF

Way to deflect.

This is what was stated about Iran:

On Iran, Mr. Coats cited Tehran’s continued support of terrorism in Europe and the Middle East, including sponsoring Houthis in Yemen and Shiite militants in Iraq. He also said that he believed that Iranian hard-liners would continue to challenge centrist rivals.

But on one of Mr. Trump’s key assertions — that Iran had cheated on the spirit of the 2015 nuclear agreement even if it was temporarily following its terms — Mr. Coats said Tehran continued to comply with the deal even after the president announced in May that the United States would withdraw from it.

“We do not believe Iran is currently undertaking activities we judge necessary to produce a nuclear device,” Mr. Coats said.

He added, however, that Iranian officials have “publicly threatened to push the boundaries” of the nuclear agreement if it did not see benefits that were promised, including a resumption of oil sales and an end to American sanctions against its financial transactions around the world.

I'm not sure how to classify this discussion. Is it about alternative facts or about CNN fake news regarding the intel chiefs' assessment of Iran? The CNN story I saw claimed that the intel chiefs contradicted Trump's view of Iran. They showed Mr. Coats saying that Iran was following the agreement, contradicting Trump.
Yet your quote above states "...that Iran had cheated on the spirit of the 2015 nuclear agreement even if it was temporarily following its terms"
So I don't see CNN's claim that the intel chiefs contradicted Trump??
I'll chalk it up to CNN's fake news regarding Trump. I don't see any contradiction.

Pathetic fail at reading comprehension.

Even more pathetic fail at sentence structure...

 

[Weatherman2020]

Is IRAN terrorism central in the ME? yes or no? WTF

Yup. They funnel money to every terrorist organization out there.

They sure loved getting those billions that Barry and Kerry made sure they got. That will fund a lot of terrorists and keep them funded for the nuke quest.

What a great bunch of peace loving death cults members they all are.

Where do you get your info? From US intel chiefs? Lol.

As shitforbrains attacks the same people he whines that Trump attacks.

 

[Claudette]

Is IRAN terrorism central in the ME? yes or no? WTF

Yup. They funnel money to every terrorist organization out there.

They sure loved getting those billions that Barry and Kerry made sure they got. That will fund a lot of terrorists and keep them funded for the nuke quest.

What a great bunch of peace loving death cults members they all are.

Where do you get your info? From US intel chiefs? Lol.

No. Unlike you I do research. Try it sometime dipshit.

 

[JimH52]

Fta.

— A new American intelligence assessment of global threats has concluded that North Korea is “unlikely to give up” all of its nuclear stockpiles, and that Iran is not “currently undertaking the key nuclear weapons-development activity” needed to make a bomb, directly contradicting two top tenets of President Trump’s foreign policy.

Those warmongers sure fucked it up with regard to iran, eh?

We all know Bush and his minions cooked the facts. This is a case where a so called president Russian asset who won't accept facts....rather he leans on Putin's orders.

 

[Dragonlady]

Biggest threat to our nation is the Democratic National Committee.

Not according to the people TRUMP appointed to head the NSA, the CIA or the FBI. According to them, ISIS has NOT been destroyed, North Korea is NOT disarming, and the Russian GRU hacked the US 2016 election, and are teaming up with China to expand that interference in 2020.

The Southern Border is NOT even listed as a crisis, nor are illegal drugs a major crisis. But the widening influence of Russia and China in areas where the US is withdrawing its influence is, as is AIRPORT SECURITY, which Trump is ignoring. In fact, the biggest security threats listed by Trump's National Security appointees are being dealt with by the President.

Trump continues to deny Russian hackers interfered in the election, and has not allocated either funds or manpower to fighting this threat. He continues to cozy up to Kim despite the CIA assessment that NK is expanding and building new testing facilities while Trump continues to tell the American people that he has defused this threat. He hasn't and it's gotten much worse since he's been President.

ISIS is not destroyed either. It has thousands of fighters and international resources. But Trump says its destroyed.

But most troubling is that the US Intelligence Agencies are fight against the biggest threat to the USA, that of Putin's Russia, while Trump refuses to believe that Russia is a threat at all, while Trump continues to hold "private" meetings with Putin with no American officials present, and no American record of what was said. Very troubling indeed when Putin brags to the world press that Trump does whatever he suggests, and one of those suggestions is the destruction of NATO.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Is IRAN terrorism central in the ME? yes or no? WTF

Yup. They funnel money to every terrorist organization out there.

They sure loved getting those billions that Barry and Kerry made sure they got. That will fund a lot of terrorists and keep them funded for the nuke quest.

What a great bunch of peace loving death cults members they all are.

Where do you get your info? From US intel chiefs? Lol.

No. Unlike you I do research. Try it sometime dipshit.

Laughable. I ask again. Where do you get your information?

 

[DandyDonovan]

The quality of the Intel means nothing when you are dealing with an incompetent that appears to be a serious Russian Asset.

You are a buffoon, who is blinded by your hatred for one man....You coldn't care less if Murica gets embroiled in more idiotic foreign wars, and more young men get killed and limbs blown off, as long as you can screech ORANGE MAN BAAAAAD! on a daily basis.

Get some ******* help.

Did you read "5,000 troops to Columbia" on the tablet of the buffoon Bolton?

If trump is not a Russian Asset...he is putting up a great act. He dismisses our Intel while making Pro Putin moves.

Serious question here.

In the last 2 years can you tell me the top 3 things that Trump has actually done that make you think "Russian agent?"

Agreed with Putin over US Intelligence

Advocated pulling troops out of Syria giving it over to Putin

Had clandestine meetings with Putin...and withholding details

Bragged to Russian diplomats in the WH .that he fired Comey and the Russian thing is over....while denying US reporters access.

Continually denies that Russia hacked the election....even as his own US Intel says otherwise.

trump is a treasonous bastard....

He didn't agree with Putin over US intelligence, but even if he did that isn't proof of anything other than he disagreed with US intelligence

ERMERGAWD that orange bastard said we should remove 2,000 troops from Syria. You got him now

If they were clandestine you wouldn't have known about them fool. And ******* logic would dictate that world leaders might need to meet from time to time without the whole world knowing the details of their discussions and this is NOT proof of anything other than this was one of those times

Again, so what if he bragged to Russians about firing the incompetent James Comey, that isn't proof of ANYTHING other than that Trump is a braggart, but you love Obama so you can't claim to dislike braggarts.

Now weight ALL of that against the fact that Trump single handily cost Russia BILLIONS when he convinced Germany not to buy Russian natural gas. Why would an "agent of Russia" do such a thing?

You leftists gotta start using your ******* heads for something besides coat racks before this country totally goes to hell.

 

[DandyDonovan]

Great, so in ten years if NK has reneged on this deal you can come back and say "told you so"

Because everyone did "tell us so". But what I will not do is blame Trump when they do. Trump may be an ignorant, classless, unethical moron, but he's our moron. And I don't blame our leaders for the actions of our enemies.

Your ignorant argument boils down to "Clinton got screwed over by the North Koreans, so that proves Trump shouldn't have even tried"

What a dumb argument

And let me add this. Are there posts from you somewhere on this board screaming about Obama trusting the untrustable Iranians when he gave them over $1B in US taxpayer money on top of unfreezing their accounts that gave them access to another $160B or so? No, don't answer I already know the answer.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Your ignorant argument boils down to "Clinton got screwed over by the North Koreans, so that proves Trump shouldn't have even tried"

No it doesn't. I didn't imply that and don't think Trump should not try. As anyone whose mind is not warped by trump cultism can see, my only point is that it is foolish to do a victory dance over a one year pause in their missile testing.

Your problem is that the Trump cult has turned your brain to tapioca, so you are now incapable of generation an original thought about anything that is not refracted through the lens of how it reflects on your cult leader.

 

[Claudette]

Is IRAN terrorism central in the ME? yes or no? WTF

Yup. They funnel money to every terrorist organization out there.

They sure loved getting those billions that Barry and Kerry made sure they got. That will fund a lot of terrorists and keep them funded for the nuke quest.

What a great bunch of peace loving death cults members they all are.

Where do you get your info? From US intel chiefs? Lol.

No. Unlike you I do research. Try it sometime dipshit.

Laughable. I ask again. Where do you get your information?

Laughable. I'll tell you again. Research.