Trump's update in Garcia: That's our position and we're sticking to it.

[Seymour Flops]

Signed what?

Only to "facilitate" Garcia's release and follow the normal course of immigration law and regulation. Which is precisely what they have said above.

The rest of the District Court’s order remains in effect but requires clarification on remand. ​

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Good point. Where is the clarification?

The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador...​

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... and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador. ​

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The intended scope of the term “effectuate” in the District Court’s order is, however, unclear, and may exceed the District Court’s authority. The District Court should clarify its directive,with due regard for the deference owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs.​

Docket for 24A949

There you go. The ball is in El Salvador's court now. If they do not release him, there is no release to facilitate.

 

[TimFitz]

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Garcia is not an American citizen. He is a citizen of El Salvador that entered the U.S. illegally.

Which has nothing to do with his treatment by the US government.

The claims you make were not the product of any investigation. There was no warrant. No charges.

And Trump, thinking he got away with it started saying that he could do that to “home grown” enemies.

And now, he tried it.

If he gets away with it, the Constitution and the laws that govern our country are meaningless in the hands of the wannabe dictator.

This is about the Constitution, not Abrego Garcia, as the courts have made clear.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Meh, common sense and black robes are often at loggerheads.

The dems really need to ride that nag into the midterms and see where it gets them.

No. We should FORCE them to ride that nag into the midterms and see where it gets them. Never let them forget or change their position. Now "Chele" is an American Citizen! Force that lie down democrat throats and make them choke on it.

 

[TimFitz]

Good point. Where is the clarification?

There you go. The ball is in El Salvador's court now. If they do not release him, there is no release to facilitate.

Trump won’t be able to hide behind that joke of an excuse.

Out of one side of his mouth, Trump is declaring that he has intimidated the whole world into negotiating trade agreements. Out of the other, Trump claims that he cowers before the President of ElSalvador, and has no influence.

Only Trumpsters are dishonest or foolish enough to believe that. Especially since Trump is paying them to keep him.

We have an extradition treaty with El Salvador. Trump refuses to use it.

The Courts are not fooled by Trump’s pathetic little kabuki.

But Trump loser are all too happy to cheer for Trump’s Gestapo tactics.

Trump and his sheep are a disgrace to the nation for endorsing tactics like these.

 

[toobfreak]

You mean, you think Trump should be impeached for not facilitating, Garcia's Return to the the United States to have a hearing, as ordered, 9-0 by the Supreme Court?

He already had two hearings, by two different courts determining he was a member of MS-13, another police incident where he was suspected of human trafficking and in 2019 when his "wife" had a restraining order filed against him plus the final federal hearing denoting him a candidate for deportation. You want him, get on your bicycle and start heading south.

I did not know you cared that much about the law, due process, and The Constitution.

If you cared about Due Process, you would have been howling for four years while it was denied to 1600 people (actual American citizens) just for attending a protest. Don't come here trying to blow smoke up my ass now over some worthless gang-banger who the democrat party won't care jack about in a couple months once they've squeezed as much media attention as they could out of him.

 

[TimFitz]

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Thank you for making my point.

Trump did snatch a U.S. Citizen off the streets with no warrant, no charges, and no hearing.

You can post your emojis all you want, but the facts remain.

You are cheering for facism.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Trump won’t be able to hide behind that joke of an excuse.

Out of one side of his mouth, Trump is declaring that he has intimidated the whole world into negotiating trade agreements. Out of the other, Trump claims that he cowers before the President of ElSalvador, and has no influence.

He said nothing like either of those.

He's declining to interfere with an internal decision of the sovreign nation of El Salvador. Why do you want the white leader of the United States to adopt a neo-colonialist policy of meddling in a Latin nation headed by a brown leader?

Only Trumpsters are dishonest or foolish enough to believe that. Especially since Trump is paying them to keep him.

He's reimbursing the expense of holding these violent criminals that the Democrats allowed to thrive in the United States. $20K per inmate is a fraction of what we would pay to keep them in Supermax here, and likely not as much as it costs El Salvador to keep them.

Money well spent.

We have an extradition treaty with El Salvador. Trump refuses to use it.

Extradite who? For what crime?

I think you've lost he gist of the leftie argument for Kilmar to be sent to America.

The Courts are not fooled by Trump’s pathetic little kabuki.

What have they done about it, then?

But Trump loser are all too happy to cheer for Trump’s Gestapo tactics.

Trump and his sheep are a disgrace to the nation for endorsing tactics like these.

All I see is "WAAAAAAAAAH! We LOOOOOOOOOST!"

 

[kyzr]

No, I mean that the President has been ordered by the Supreme Court to facilitate his release and return to the United States and be given the same due process you or I should expect. That’s the rule of law.
And if Trump continues to defy the law, he should be impeached. Although the lickspittles in Congress will do nothing.
What Trump is trying to get away with is unconstitutional. And you’re cheering for it.

1. Facilitate his release means what? "to make easier". That is not the same as "effectuate".
2. You left out a few USSC stipulations, like file in the correct district court, i.e.TX, and not to infringe on presidential authority regarding immigration.
3. The district courts are going to be bitch-slapped by the USSC.

 

[Orangecat]

Trump manufactured the crisis when he tossed an American citizen in prison with no charges, no warrant and no due process.

Which American citizen would that be?

 

[Orangecat]

pknopp Will take him in.

Extra space in grandma’s basement?

 

[kyzr]

Thank you for making my point.
Trump did snatch a U.S. Citizen off the streets with no warrant, no charges, and no hearing.
You can post your emojis all you want, but the facts remain. You are cheering for facism.

Who is the US citizen? Sure as hell isn't Abrego Garcia

 

[White 6]

No, I mean that the President has been ordered by the Supreme Court to facilitate his release and return to the United States and be given the same due process you or I should expect.

That’s the rule of law.

And if Trump continues to defy the law, he should be impeached. Although the lickspittles in Congress will do nothing.

What Trump is trying to get away with is unconstitutional.

And you’re cheering for it.

I am not. I still believe in the Rule of Law, Due Process, and the US Constitution, with nobody (including a president, that would be despot or dictator) above it. You are confused. Tubefreak is the poster that looks for it to all fall through, with Garcia and the rule of law forgotten. We have several on hear that support any trump action, regardless of the law, or the courts. It is a dangerous time for this country.

 

[Marener]

Trump asked and was refused

Did he ask? The DoJ refused to answer this question.

 

[White 6]

He already had two hearings, by two different courts determining he was a member of MS-13, another police incident where he was suspected of human trafficking and in 2019 when his "wife" had a restraining order filed against him plus the final federal hearing denoting him a candidate for deportation. You want him, get on your bicycle and start heading south.


If you cared about Due Process, you would have been howling for four years while it was denied to 1600 people (actual American citizens) just for attending a protest. Don't come here trying to blow smoke up my ass now over some worthless gang-banger who the democrat party won't care jack about in a couple months once they've squeezed as much media attention as they could out of him.

They got due process, many found guilty and admitting their actions.

 

[Orangecat]

Due process: the new “threat to democracy”
Yawn. I tire of these useful idiot talking points.

 

[toobfreak]

Thank you for making my point.

Only the one plainly visible on top of your head.

Trump did snatch a U.S. Citizen

BULLSHIT. The guy is here ILLEGALLY, twice identified by two different courts to be a member of the terror organization MS-13.

off the streets with no warrant, no charges, and no hearing.

There were five hearings. The final ruled him subject to necessary deportation according to federal laws. If you want him, head south and bake him a cake cause he will never be in the USA again.

You are cheering for facism.

You are jerking yourself off over an illegal criminal from another country.

 

[toobfreak]

They got due process, many found guilty and admitting their actions.

I think even you know that is bullshit. Or maybe all you watch is MSNBC.

 

[TimFitz]

He already had two hearings, by two different courts determining he was a member of MS-13, another police incident where he was suspected of human trafficking and in 2019 when his "wife" had a restraining order filed against him plus the final federal hearing denoting him a candidate for deportation. You want him, get on your bicycle and start heading south.


If you cared about Due Process, you would have been howling for four years while it was denied to 1600 people (actual American citizens) just for attending a protest. Don't come here trying to blow smoke up my ass now over some worthless gang-banger who the democrat party won't care jack about in a couple months once they've squeezed as much media attention as they could out of him.

No court ever determined that he was MS-13.

The human trafficking allegation is fake news circulated through the noise machine.

your last paragraph is BS, 100%. Jan 6th was not simply a protest, and you disgrace yourself by trying to pretend otherwise.

You appear to be a full blown facist, cheering loudly against freedom and the Constitution, and for a man who wants to be a dictator.

Own your disgrace.

 

[Concerned American]

Trump manufactured the crisis when he tossed an American citizen in prison with no charges, no warrant and no due process.

Which is exactly what Trump wanted to do. Setup a scenario in which the Supreme Courtendorses his imaginary unconstitutional “aright” to snatch people off the streets with no due process.

Pure Gestapo.

And you’re cheering for it.



You place more faith in a power hungry fool and a liar, than you do in the Constitution, the right to due process, and 250 years of American law.

Garcia is not an American citizen, moron. He is a citizen of El Salvadore and an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT here.

 

[TimFitz]

Only the one plainly visible on top of your head.


BULLSHIT. The guy is here ILLEGALLY, twice identified by two different courts to be a member of the terror organization MS-13.


There were five hearings. The final ruled him subject to necessary deportation according to federal laws. If you want him, head south and bake him a cake cause he will never be in the USA again.


You are jerking yourself off over an illegal criminal from another country.

You not only have no evidence to support your claims, you know they are lies.

The issue is the rule of law, and whether your beloved fuhrer is going to get away with flaunting the Supreme Court.

Your false claims and open racism do not change the fact that you are cheering for a wannbe dictator, trying to steal the power to imprison anyone without due process under the law.

You are campaigning against your own Constitutional rights.