You are one really confused person. There are no negative numbers from trade. As I have documented over and over and that your own link supported, they are all internal problems that don't involve trade.
You have presented internal problems that you insist are the cause of the problem.
As my position is not based on trade being the sole cause of wage stagnation, that does not challenge my position at all.
IF, you were to somehow prove a negative, and demonstrate that all of the wage stagnation was caused by the factors you present, with no contribution from Trade, that would refute my claim.
You have not even tried to do that, and I don't see how it could be proven, even if it were true, so.
And let's not forget that you starting position in this thread, was DENYING that there were any negative numbers to be explained.
So, you are a dishonest person who's claims are not to be trusted.
Hey idiot, I have been giving the real reasons for wage stagnation. That’s not denying the negative numbers. Gosh you are dumb.
Your words, from your immediately previous post.
:"There are no negative numbers from trade. "
Just stop moving the goal posts every time someone proves you don’t have the first clue when it comes to trade.
Trade numbers have NOTHING to do with wage stagnation numbers. The USA is the ONLY first world country where wage stagnation is a problem. That’s because of Republican refusal to raise the minimum wage and earned income credits and other income supports.
If manufacturing jobs are lost here, because they are either outsourced, or lost to foreign competition, that reduces demand for labor here, and thus wages.
That is the law of supply and demand at work. We see that massive job loses to outsourcing and foreign competition, during the time frame we have seen long term wage stagnation.
We know that. You and other libs have, could demand links to demonstrate it, but that is just playing silly games. We both know that it true, so what are you confused about?
When manufacturing jobs were outsourced in the EU and in Canada, the government funded massive retraining programs, and helped local economies to develop new industries and sources for jobs for all sectors of the work force, including low wage jobs. Oshawa was home to more than 20,000 auto industry jobs. At the end of this year, it will be home to 200 GM Canada Head Office jobs. And yet Oshawa is a thriving community with low unemployment and high housing prices. There is no "rust belt" in Ontario.
The minimum wage where I live is $14.00 per hour, and all countries in the EU and Canada, all have taxpayer and employer funded universal health care, so workers didn't lose health insurance when they left their jobs, and even unemployment insurance pays over $1000 per month.
Outsourcing continues unabated, but the US government does nothing for displaced workers, and everything for corporations looking to relocate to a different jurisdiction. This notion that large American corporations, who use masses of infrastructure to service their mega campuses, including transportation lines to and from for tens of thousands of workers each day. Extra gas, electricity, water, roadways, traffic calming, rapid transit lines - tens of millions of dollars of infrastructure and municipal improvements, and yet communities are giving these behemoths, billion dollar plus tax breaks on these infrastructure costs, and off-loads them to the existing local tax base,
Governments at all levels are doing much to entice jobs to their jurisdictions, even if it means another states loses the jobs. One pundit called it the "race to the bottom". As we recently saw with Foxxcom, big companies can fleece communitites desperate for jobs. But the new manufacturing jobs required computer skills and other skills the displaced workers lack, so now you have millions of job openings, and no one qualified to fill the jobs.
Notice how all of the government money is being given to corporations to create jobs. Nothing is being given to broke and unemployed workers to help them improve their skills and get those new jobs. American government is all for the corporations and nothing for the people. It should be the other way around.
Canada and the EU invest their tax dollars, not in wars and military, and a for profit health care system which exists to addict the population. We invest in health, education, and infrastructure. And our people. Our government programs, help Canadians get ahead, promote new ideas, and deal with recessions and employment displacement. Stuff you call "socialism".
Americans continue to elect old men who are utterly ignorant of the global economy and how to structure the American economy to benefit anyone other than corporations and their shareholders.