Trump Moves to Make Tech Giants Pay for Surging Power Costs

[1srelluc]

MSN

(Bloomberg) -- President Donald Trump and the governors of several US Northeastern states agreed to push for an emergency wholesale electricity auction that would compel technology companies to effectively fund new power plants.

The unprecedented plan, set to be announced Friday morning, seeks to address growing tensions over how the nation can supply electricity to power-hungry data centers — seen as necessary to help win the global AI race — without simultaneously hiking utility bills for homes and businesses.

The Trump administration and some US governors plan to direct grid operator PJM Interconnection LLC to hold an auction for tech companies to bid on 15-year contracts for new electricity generation capacity.

If the auction proceeds as envisaged, tech giants would pay for power over the duration of the contracts, whether they use the electricity or not, providing secure revenues for years in a market notorious for price volatility and generator bankruptcies.

The auction would deliver contracts supporting the construction of some $15 billion worth of new power plants, said a White House official granted anonymity to detail the approach.

There you go, while the dems are occupied with ICE Trump is putting in the work for Americans.

The issue I think I see with these data centers isn't necessarily that they use tons of power, it's that because they're buying it in bulk and the power companies are giving them huge discounts, and then crying poor and hiking rates on the regular consumers.

Water usage needs to be addressed too.....The centers require vast amounts of treated water and then it needs to be retreated upon discharge placing a undo burden on community waste water treatment and general water consumption.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

MSN

(Bloomberg) -- President Donald Trump and the governors of several US Northeastern states agreed to push for an emergency wholesale electricity auction that would compel technology companies to effectively fund new power plants.

The unprecedented plan, set to be announced Friday morning, seeks to address growing tensions over how the nation can supply electricity to power-hungry data centers — seen as necessary to help win the global AI race — without simultaneously hiking utility bills for homes and businesses.

The Trump administration and some US governors plan to direct grid operator PJM Interconnection LLC to hold an auction for tech companies to bid on 15-year contracts for new electricity generation capacity.

If the auction proceeds as envisaged, tech giants would pay for power over the duration of the contracts, whether they use the electricity or not, providing secure revenues for years in a market notorious for price volatility and generator bankruptcies.

The auction would deliver contracts supporting the construction of some $15 billion worth of new power plants, said a White House official granted anonymity to detail the approach.

There you go, while the dems are occupied with ICE Trump is putting in the work for Americans.

The issue I think I see with these data centers isn't necessarily that they use tons of power, it's that because they're buying in bulk the power companies are giving them huge discounts, and then crying poor and hiking rates on the regular consumers.

Water usage needs to be addressed too.....The centers require vast amounts of treated water and then it needs to be retreated upon discharge placing a undo burden on community waste water treatment and general water consumption.

OK That's the guy I hoped was our President!

 

[Winston]

MSN

(Bloomberg) -- President Donald Trump and the governors of several US Northeastern states agreed to push for an emergency wholesale electricity auction that would compel technology companies to effectively fund new power plants.

The unprecedented plan, set to be announced Friday morning, seeks to address growing tensions over how the nation can supply electricity to power-hungry data centers — seen as necessary to help win the global AI race — without simultaneously hiking utility bills for homes and businesses.

The Trump administration and some US governors plan to direct grid operator PJM Interconnection LLC to hold an auction for tech companies to bid on 15-year contracts for new electricity generation capacity.

If the auction proceeds as envisaged, tech giants would pay for power over the duration of the contracts, whether they use the electricity or not, providing secure revenues for years in a market notorious for price volatility and generator bankruptcies.

The auction would deliver contracts supporting the construction of some $15 billion worth of new power plants, said a White House official granted anonymity to detail the approach.

There you go, while the dems are occupied with ICE Trump is putting in the work for Americans.

The issue I think I see with these data centers isn't necessarily that they use tons of power, it's that because they're buying it in bulk and the power companies are giving them huge discounts, and then crying poor and hiking rates on the regular consumers.

Water usage needs to be addressed too.....The centers require vast amounts of treated water and then it needs to be retreated upon discharge placing a undo burden on community waste water treatment and general water consumption.

Data Centers are already moving toward a self-sustaining power model. The Apple Center, just down the road, is completely self-powered through the largest privately held solar power facility in the country. In fact, by 2030 those data centers are expected to produce 35gw of power, completely off the grid.

 

[1srelluc]

Data Centers are already moving toward a self-sustaining power model. The Apple Center, just down the road, is completely self-powered through the largest privately held solar power facility in the country. In fact, by 2030 those data centers are expected to produce 35gw of power, completely off the grid.

It must be a really small data center.

To power a data center with solar energy, a significant amount of land is required due to the high energy consumption of data centers. For example, a single hyperscale data center can require up to 150 megawatts (MW) of power, which is equivalent to the energy consumption of a decent-sized city. To provide this power, a 100 MW solar farm would need to cover approximately 1,446 acres of solar panels. However, this figure represents the maximum output of the solar farm, and the actual energy production may be limited by factors such as solar radiance levels, cloudy weather, or snow/dust on the panels. The average capacity factor for utility-scale solar installations in the United States is 24.7%, meaning that only about 24.7% of the maximum capacity is actually generated over time.

 

[Winston]

It must be a really small data center.

To power a data center with solar energy, a significant amount of land is required due to the high energy consumption of data centers. For example, a single hyperscale data center can require up to 150 megawatts (MW) of power, which is equivalent to the energy consumption of a decent-sized city. To provide this power, a 100 MW solar farm would need to cover approximately 1,446 acres of solar panels. However, this figure represents the maximum output of the solar farm, and the actual energy production may be limited by factors such as solar radiance levels, cloudy weather, or snow/dust on the panels. The average capacity factor for utility-scale solar installations in the United States is 24.7%, meaning that only about 24.7% of the maximum capacity is actually generated over time.

Three solar farms totaling 200 acres in addition to fuel cells powered by biogas from the nearby landfill. Enough power to power 14,000 homes.

 

[JGalt]

Three solar farms totaling 200 acres in addition to fuel cells powered by biogas from the nearby landfill. Enough power to power 14,000 homes.

That's not enough. Only 27% of data centers are expected to run entirely on onsite power by 2030.

Survey: 27% of data centers are expected to run entirely on onsite power by 2030

Trump is just giving them a nudge in the right direction.

 

[1srelluc]

Three solar farms totaling 200 acres in addition to fuel cells powered by biogas from the nearby landfill. Enough power to power 14,000 homes.

Blah, I'd sooner have a Super Max prison on my property line than a data center, much less a solar or wind farm.

**** that, whoever approved it, from the planning commission to the board of supervisors ought to be horsewhipped.

 

[JGalt]

Blah, I'd sooner have a Super Max prison on my property line than a data center, much less a solar or wind farm.

**** that, whoever approved it, from the planning commission to the board of supervisors ought to be horsewhipped.

A small plane and a couple hundred pounds of steel ball bearings would fix that shit.

 

[initforme]

Let the corporate heads fund their own power.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Three solar farms totaling 200 acres in addition to fuel cells powered by biogas from the nearby landfill. Enough power to power 14,000 homes.

Putting solar panels on 200 acres of land to power a data centre? The climate brigade must be puking over that.