JC that's BS Dems work at least as hard as republicans and welfare is doled out to republicans toowell then your fallback is to believe in socialism. that seems rather extreme to me. I believe in work for a buck. If you vote now for dems, you're voting for stay at home for a buck. shameful.A republican all my life until GWB Even voted for him in 2000 But yes I wasn't happy with repubs trying to impeach Clintonso you didn't support bill clinton? king of degenerates. come on, I bet you did? hey pot, how's kettle?Come on man ,,,Blues you support and defend a degenerate vile garbage ,,,,and one is to think well of you?? Not a chance
Trump Is Hiding His Taxes
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nope, you are the fool for believing Trump....there is nothing to deny about the Mueller report.... we've seen absolutely ZERO of it... not even the mueller team redacted summaries that they made on each aspect of their investigations, so they could be released to the public immediately....
Barr used 2 PARTIAL sentences of Mueller's in his Barr report... he could not even put in Mueller's full sentences.... had to cut out from even those!
#MuellerDenier
Nope: you're a liar. No collusion, no obstruction. You should be ashamed of yourself for being so stupid as to still hold onto that canard. Amuses me immensely. lmao
Greg
the barr report did not say there was no collusion... Barr never used the word collusion, remember... although collusion may be something ''wrong'', collusion is not a crime....
allegedly, the Mueller report said that they could not establish, (beyond a reasonable doubt), that the Trump campaign team committed CONSPIRACY, conspiracy to defraud the United States... is the law that would be broken....
Barr's summary report did NOT SAY there was NO evidence of it, anywhere.... by using the word establish, basically tells us that there was evidence of it, but not enough to establish it beyond a reasonable doubt, which was Mueller's thresh hold, for an indictment.
As far as the obstruction charge for President Trump, one of Mueller's partial quotes used said that president Trump COULD NOT BE EXONERATED for it.... that means there is most certainly evidence collected on President Trump, for his obstruction in this official investigation....
so, basically, it really is all up in the air at this point, without having the Mueller report to read.
It's not a prosecutors job to "exonerate", it's his job to determine if there's evidence to support a prosecution. There wasn't, and by our system of justice, Trump is innocent until proven guilty is a court of law and that ain't gonna happen.
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The indictments are already public, there will be no more, what else do you want to know?
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the other mike
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Watch their heads spin off when the prez starts pardoning folks.
Papageorgio
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Why does he or any president wannabe need to release their taxes? You are supposedly a Progressive and yet you hold to some old traditions that don’t really matter. If you want to make it a law, I’d be good with it, however changing rules in the middle of a campaign is just pure BS. Make it a law going forward, it is ok by me.
How many Presidential elections have you decided to vote for because of their taxes? How many voters for Trump decided not to vote for him because he didn’t release their taxes?
Showing or not showing taxes didn’t change an election, the only reason to want the taxes now is petty partisan revenge politics.
the other mike
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Papageorgio
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Is It Worth It For Congress To Obtain Trump’s Tax Returns By Force?
"A person’s tax return is confidential.
"The Internal Revenue Service takes this very seriously as no one has leaked President Trump’s tax return to this day.
"However, Section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code specifies certain instances where someone’s tax return must be disclosed.
"The section states that the IRS must provide anyone’s tax return to the chairman (and only to the chairman) of the House Ways And Means Committee upon request.
"The entire committee can review the tax return in a closed executive session away from the public.
"Section 6103 does not state that a House Ways And Means Committee member is authorized to release a tax return to the public.
" But it allows the committee to forward the returns to the full House or the Senate.
"Professor Andy Grewal stated that by voting to release the returns to the full House, the committee can effectively release the tax return to the public."
And when the Democrats leak his tax returns, then do you support prison time for those that chose to violate a persons right to privacy.
the other mike
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the other mike
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There could have been some evidence or 'probable cause' discovered during the -illegal some say- break-in of Cohen's office's, but anything outside of Russian collusion would be inadmissible in court ( although they have ways around that like paying off judges and prosecutors if they need to ) Now if Mueller shares that kind of evidence with the IRS, they can probably find parallel construction or some other tactic and claim they found the evidence through classified information.Either way, Trump knows if he has anything to worry about, and we'll see what happens after he leaves office. But if the Dems and MSM want to continue down this same path manufacturing consent for impeachment, I say let them commit suicide.
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truth and facts on what happened in the Russian interference.... not necessarily crimes.
Why did Manafort give secret and confidential Trump polling data to Kilimnik? Did Kilimnik pass it on to the GRU so they could advertise and troll in the areas the polling data showed where the Trump campaign needed it most?
What actually occurred between Roger Stone and wikileaks, was he made aware of the stolen email dumps to come, did he direct them on a timely basis for the benefit of Trump? Did he communicate what was going to be in the stolen email dumps to the Trump campaign? Why did Trump mention wikileaks 160 times in his rallies, in the month of October alone, when he was briefed by our intelligence that Russia had stolen them and was trying to interfere with our election?
What did Cambridge Analytica actually do to help the Trump campaign, besides illegally obtaining Facebook confidential data on unsuspecting users? Why did they shut down? Who paid them?
Who were the Russians that illegally donated funds to the NRA for their advertising that supported the Trump campaign besides Alexander Torshin? Why did Don Junior meet with Torshin and have dinner with him at an NRA event? What was Maria Butina's roll and her boyfriend's in electing Trump, if any?
Who were the Russians who illegally donated to the Trump Inaugural fund? What did they get in return from the Trump campaign for doing such? Was there a pay for play situation set up with the Trump Inaugural Fund?
What exactly did trump Campaign Sam Clovis illegally do? Why and for what, is he still cooperating with the Special Counsel?
Why is the Special Counsel's Grand Jury still alive and well? What are they needed for if the Special Counsel investigation is over?
Why did Kushner want to set up a back channel of communications with the Russians? And why in the heck would he try to do such in the Russian embassy?
What really happened at the Trump tower Meeting with Kushner, Manafort, Junior and the 6 govt Russian operatives....
Why did Don Junior accept a meeting with these Russian operatives when they had already been briefed that Russia was trying to illegally interfere in our election?
Why did President Trump make up a LIE about the Trump tower meeting for Don Junior?
Why did no one from the Trump campaign notify the FBI when the Russians were going overboard in their contacts with them?
Why did everyone including Trump LIE about all of their Russian contacts during the campaign?
Why did candidate Trump LIE about his Trump tower Moscow deal he was working on until the day he got elected?
Why did President Trump send Erik Prince to meet with the Russian operative in the Seychelles?
What was the second Trump tower meeting about, that Erik Prince just slipped up and told us took place?
All of these questions are just a few of the questions I, and anyone following the investigation, want to know the answers to....
Papageorgio
The Ultimate Winner
When Congress gets the report, you may never see or get the answers.
think if they go for impeachment they can legally get his taxesIs It Worth It For Congress To Obtain Trump’s Tax Returns By Force?
"A person’s tax return is confidential.
"The Internal Revenue Service takes this very seriously as no one has leaked President Trump’s tax return to this day.
"However, Section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code specifies certain instances where someone’s tax return must be disclosed.
"The section states that the IRS must provide anyone’s tax return to the chairman (and only to the chairman) of the House Ways And Means Committee upon request.
"The entire committee can review the tax return in a closed executive session away from the public.
"Section 6103 does not state that a House Ways And Means Committee member is authorized to release a tax return to the public.
" But it allows the committee to forward the returns to the full House or the Senate.
"Professor Andy Grewal stated that by voting to release the returns to the full House, the committee can effectively release the tax return to the public."
And when the Democrats leak his tax returns, then do you support prison time for those that chose to violate a persons right to privacy.
the other mike
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Like two years of extreme FBI scrutiny wasn't bad enough for you guys ?
OMG, I can't wait to see the other side go down for this shit. Especially Clapper, Comey, Brennan and the *****.
Yes but for anyone except one that violates Trumps This man is such slime anything should go to bring him to his knees jimho Would a newspaper have to give a leaker up ?Is It Worth It For Congress To Obtain Trump’s Tax Returns By Force?
"A person’s tax return is confidential.
"The Internal Revenue Service takes this very seriously as no one has leaked President Trump’s tax return to this day.
"However, Section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code specifies certain instances where someone’s tax return must be disclosed.
"The section states that the IRS must provide anyone’s tax return to the chairman (and only to the chairman) of the House Ways And Means Committee upon request.
"The entire committee can review the tax return in a closed executive session away from the public.
"Section 6103 does not state that a House Ways And Means Committee member is authorized to release a tax return to the public.
" But it allows the committee to forward the returns to the full House or the Senate.
"Professor Andy Grewal stated that by voting to release the returns to the full House, the committee can effectively release the tax return to the public."
And when the Democrats leak his tax returns, then do you support prison time for those that chose to violate a persons right to privacy.
Revenge is best served cold Either soon or after his presidency he'll feel the full brunt of those he screwed and lied about
LeftofLeft
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What American wants to show his Taxes to mass amounts of people? If there is something wrong, let the IRS find it.
The Liberals failed so bad on Russia Collusion they think they can make up for it by going after his taxes. The only thing that is going to accomplish is showing the American people how intrusive you are. Bring it on.
The Liberals failed so bad on Russia Collusion they think they can make up for it by going after his taxes. The only thing that is going to accomplish is showing the American people how intrusive you are. Bring it on.
true, at least not for a few years, unless they find things that are impeachable offenses, then the grand jury testimony can be released by the Court upon request of such...
and I don't need the grand jury testimony, just the Mueller Summary of it.... and those questions I listed, among a few others, answered.
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Well to quote your favorite *****, "What, at this point, difference does it make?". Nothing rose to the level of criminality, there will be no more related prosecutions. You're free to have questions, just don't be too upset when you don't get answers.
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Two years of complete silence from them... with all of us saying on both sides for all of our questions, "We'll have to wait for the Mueller Report, to know the answers".... only for it now, to be covered up.
Democracy dies, in darkness...
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think if they go for impeachment they can legally get his taxesIs It Worth It For Congress To Obtain Trump’s Tax Returns By Force?
"A person’s tax return is confidential.
"The Internal Revenue Service takes this very seriously as no one has leaked President Trump’s tax return to this day.
"However, Section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code specifies certain instances where someone’s tax return must be disclosed.
"The section states that the IRS must provide anyone’s tax return to the chairman (and only to the chairman) of the House Ways And Means Committee upon request.
"The entire committee can review the tax return in a closed executive session away from the public.
"Section 6103 does not state that a House Ways And Means Committee member is authorized to release a tax return to the public.
" But it allows the committee to forward the returns to the full House or the Senate.
"Professor Andy Grewal stated that by voting to release the returns to the full House, the committee can effectively release the tax return to the public."
And when the Democrats leak his tax returns, then do you support prison time for those that chose to violate a persons right to privacy.
Wrong again commie, that's not a legitimate legislative end. And out of curiosity what possible impeachment charge would include the need for his taxes?
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